https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148673

--- Comment #13 from [email protected] ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #12)
> what command wouldn't be available in the two scenarios?
In relation to actual use case....

Most of my documents have paragraphs with outline level 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, usually
with Heading N PS (both so that Load Styles from Templates can be used to
change formatting of the Heading N PS, and to automatically get PS changes with
outline level changes when using Tab/Shift+Tab (or Demote/Promote from menu, if
PS is not listed in Tools > Chapter Number) [I guess by normally using Heading
N, I am implicitly using that mapping of PS and level from Tools > Chapter
Numbering, even if I rarely use numbers in that dialog, which is what motivated
OP].

I will reply to your question in relation to that (meaningful use) case  –  but
I think the following analysis also applies to cases with custom PS with
outline levels, and when Tools > Chapter Numbering is used with numbering.

If OP was realized, then B&N bar would pop up when cursor is in a para with
Heading N PS. 

Afaict  .uno:InsertNeutralParagraph, .uno:ContinueNumbering would always be
meaningless in relation to these outline paragraphs. (Because there was no list
formatting, so no need to insert a non-list formatted para, and why would I use
“Add to List” if I wanted to apply a PS with an outline level? just use H1, H2,
 H3 from Formatting (Styles) menubar and Tab to shift level down if needed.) 

[...not trying to make my use case universal, but I could not imagine other use
cases that would need these commands in relation to outline paragraphs]

Now…if I wanted to have numbering (or bullets) on these paragraphs with outline
levels (in the use case, and using professional language, such paras are
usually called “headings”), then wouldn’t Tools > Chapter Numbering be the
preferred method for numbering? 

If that is the preferred method, then wouldn’t .uno:OutlineBullet be
inappropriate (as well as the currently hidden uno:DefaultBullet,
.uno:DefaultNumbering, .uno:SetOutline)? 

(of course still possible to use those DF commands from menu, but for those who
know, and for those who don’t know, then these commands should not be relevant
to working with paras with outline levels, right?).

Maybe that is enough to start…meanwhile..what would be a use case where you
would use both outline level and list level for list paragraphs?

And if they existed, then how would you use the current B&N bar to change
outline level of one of these paragraphs?

In such cases, promote/demote operates on the “list level”, not “outline level”

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