Just refining a conception: if the "dumb terminal" is not a computer communicating with the main computer through a network protocol -- let's say, what happens being only the assignment of I/O devices to certain user account --, that will not be a network.
Em Seg, 2012-12-03 às 15:43 -0200, Gustavo C. M. escreveu: > > Thanks for the help Gustavo, I had not read it this way. > > You are welcome. > > > On the other hand, I wonder why "Network Interaction" (as covered by > > the GNU AGPL) is not considered "making available the public"... > > > > Is there a legal difference if the owner put the computers in the back > > of the cafe and had dumb terminals for the customers to connect > > through a network? > > I am not a lawyer (I don't even know the law), but it seems to me that > the owner of the coffee house, in the case you pointed out, keeps owning > the equipment in comparison with the former configuration: he owns the > whole network (the server, the connection and the clients -- I don't > know if a terminal's dumbness would interfere with its qualification as > a "client", and so with the "network" status of the whole thing), being > that his instrument of propagation of covered works (his customers, the > public, are using his equipment), while in (most?) cases of "Network > **Interaction**" none of the parties own the whole network: the client > computer is owned by the "consumer", the network is owned mostly by > third parties and the server is owned by the provider. > > In the second case, the data for computation in the server comes from a > computer owned by the "customer" (let's say it's a "delegation" of > computing); in the first one, it already comes from the providers' one > (let's say the computing is already delegated by the very system's > structure) -- remembering that, so, the services provided in both cases > are not the same. > > Em Dom, 2012-12-02 às 16:38 -0700, Patrick Anderson escreveu: > > > Propagation includes > > > copying, distribution (with or without modification), **making > > > available to the public**, and in some countries other > > > activities as well. > > > > Thanks for the help Gustavo, I had not read it this way. > > > > On the other hand, I wonder why "Network Interaction" (as covered by > > the GNU AGPL) is not considered "making available the public"... > > > > Is there a legal difference if the owner put the computers in the back > > of the cafe and had dumb terminals for the customers to connect > > through a network? > > > > > > > > On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Gustavo C. M. <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > Just an exercise of making distinctions: > > > > > >> For example, the owner of an "Internet Cafe" could offer the use of > > >> Free Software on machines that the users do not own. > > >> Since the software is not being distributed, the GNU GPL does not come > > >> into effect. > > > > > > It comes; it's just that it's "propagation", not "conveying", of a > > > "covered work". > > > > > > Let's have some GPL (*'s added) https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html : > > > > > > "TERMS AND CONDITIONS > > > 0. Definitions. > > > [...] > > > “The Program” refers to any copyrightable work licensed under > > > this License. [...] > > > A “covered work” means either the unmodified Program or a work > > > based on the Program. > > > To “propagate” a work means to do anything with it that, without > > > permission, would make you directly or secondarily liable for > > > infringement under applicable copyright law, except executing it > > > on a computer or modifying a private copy. Propagation includes > > > copying, distribution (with or without modification), **making > > > available to the public**, and in some countries other > > > activities as well. > > > To “convey” a work means any kind of propagation that enables > > > other parties to make or receive copies. Mere interaction with a > > > user through a computer network, with no transfer of a copy, is > > > not conveying. > > > [...] > > > 2. Basic Permissions. > > > [...] > > > You may make, run and propagate covered works that you do not > > > convey, without conditions so long as your license otherwise > > > remains in force. You may convey covered works to others for the > > > sole purpose of having them make modifications exclusively for > > > you, or provide you with facilities for running those works, > > > provided that you comply with the terms of this License in > > > conveying all material for which you do not control copyright
