1. Thanks for evaluation of all products, and for choosing Qumble.
2. I will prepare an image, that includes Source code of all applications
and upload it. It makes more sense for offline distribution. (it will
become around 1.1GB DVD image)
2.a. I will also update software in few days (not to latest, but to most
stable versions of each app. )
3. I will prepare forum and website in the next several days.
4. Qumble also includes Free Software philosophy books and the trailer of
"Revolution OS" video, in the new patent-free WebM video format. Accessible
from the menu.

-Technologov
On Dec 14, 2012 6:26 AM, "Will Rico" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I started this thread on December 1 and owe a report on how our Free
> Software outreach, at a local community college in Boston, went.
>
> First, thank you to everyone who made suggestions regarding the Free
> Software CD for Windows.  I looked at Qumble, OpenDisc and Valo-CD (thanks
> Alexey, Michael, and Tomi for those suggestions!).  In evaluating the three
> options, I noticed each had some software that was more up-to-date than the
> others, e.g. one might have a newer version of Firefox, but an older
> version of LibreOffice, so it was hard to decide based on versions.
>  Overall, I found the selection of software on each disc was comparable.
>
> We downloaded the ISO for OpenDisc (http://www.theopendisc.com/) and
> burned a DVD.  Unfortunately, it wouldn't install.  The autorun didn't run,
> and when I clicked Kiwix.exe nothing happened, so that pretty much ruled
> out OpenDisc.
>
> Valo-CD (http://www.valo-cd.net) can only be downloaded via a torrent and
> my colleague who was doing the downloading didn't want to install a Torrent
> client and was pressed for time, so we skipped Valo-CD.
>
> Qumble 
> (http://sourceforge.net/**projects/qumble/files/<http://sourceforge.net/projects/qumble/files/>)
> downloaded nicely and popped up a nice menu as soon as I put it in the
> drive. It let me choose which program(s) to install, categorized by type,
> and gave a little description of each.  Unfortunately, the main Qumble site
> is down and one if it's touted benefits is the website and its forums, so
> that was a little disappointing, but overall, it seemed nicely packaged and
> was the one we decided to go with.  One last quibble with Qumble is the
> name, which I'm not sure how to pronounce.
>
> Thanks again to Alexey who I understand is part of the Qumble team!
>
> So here's how the outreach event, which was on December 4, went:
>
> The college in question was Roxbury Community College and I worked with
> their Community Partnership Program Coordinator, who was super helpful, in
> putting together the event.  The idea was simple.  We were given a table on
> the first floor of an academic building and between 12 & 2 on a Tuesday, we
> could talk to students, hand out literature, DVDs and CDs.
>
> We brought the following material with us to hand out:
> -- What is Free Software (https://www.fsf.org/**
> resources/resources/what-is-fs<https://www.fsf.org/resources/resources/what-is-fs>
> **)
> -- A handout I made with a list of on-line and in-person resources
> -- A list of "Why Free Software" (short bulleted list of reasons to use
> Free Software, meant as a compliment to the "What is Free Software" doc)
> -- Qumble CDs (with Free Software for Windows)
> -- Ubuntu 12.10 DVDs (I know, I know, more on this below)
>
> I didn't know what to expect since I hadn't done this type of an event
> before.  We had a very makeshift banner that said "Free Software," which
> piqued some interest, but for the most part, we had to approach people and
> start conversations, usually by saying "Would you like some free software?"
>
> Most people were skeptical (one woman commented "there aint nothing in
> life that's free").  Some thought it was a promotion for something that
> they'd have to pay for later.  In some cases it took quite a lot of
> reiterating to convince people that no, they wouldn't have to pay in a
> month, or 3 months, or 6 months or 10 years; this is 100% free.  Of course,
> we took the opportunity to segue into conversations about "Free as in
> Freedom."
>
> Hardly anyone had heard of Free Software or GNU/Linux previously. We
> described Ubuntu as a replacement for Windows or Mac operating systems, and
> pointed out that they could install the DVD for free, get a modern
> operating system, and avoid "upgrade" fees for Windows 8.  We also talked
> about LibreOffice as a replacement for Microsoft Office.
>
> The "free as in beer" argument went over well.  In some cases, "free as in
> freedom" and "free as in beer" are interconnected, particularly when people
> are coerced by various mechanisms to upgrade versions of proprietary
> software when in actuality they don't realize a benefit as a result.
>  Depending on a person's economic situation, these fees can cut deeply, or
> drive people to pirating software.  We talked about how Free Software
> doesn't make people feel like criminals for doing one of the most natural
> things in the world, sharing, and that seemed to resonate with people too.
>
> The "There Aint Nothing in Life That's Free" woman, who originally seemed
> the most resistant, wound up having the longest conversation with us and by
> the end was telling us about the dangers of Facebook, impingements upon
> privacy, and the importance of freedom.
>
> Some results:
> 1- We handed out all the DVDs and CDs (48 in total).
> 2- One of the students attended the Ubuntu Mass Colo in Dorchester the
> next day
> 3- None of the students came to our Desktop GNU/Linux meetup (
> http://www.meetup.com/**desktop-linux-users-group/<http://www.meetup.com/desktop-linux-users-group/>)
> in Cambridge (also the next day)
> 4- I didn't hear from anyone via email (I listed my email address on the
> Resources handout)
>
> Overall, I would have loved to receive emails from people I met, but I'm
> pleased with the results.  We introduced the concept of Free Software to
> lots of people and got free software into their hands. I'm hopeful some of
> those people tried the software, and others handed the discs off to
> relatives.  More people may  be running freer software currently as a
> result.  Ultimately however, I know it will take more than one "touch" for
> most people to internalize the message, make a change, and get involved.
>
> What I would do differently:
>
> Well, I definitely wouldn't have handed out Ubuntu 12.10.  Our event was
> three days before the Stallman post on Ubuntu being malware.  As I
> commented in another thread, I agree with that assessment and wrote a blog
> piece about it myself (http://desktop-sig.blu.org/**
> 2012/12/6-ways-canonical-**ubuntu-can-be.html<http://desktop-sig.blu.org/2012/12/6-ways-canonical-ubuntu-can-be.html>
> ).
>
> Perhaps Trisquel would have been a better option, as Jason Self pointed
> out in this thread, prior to the event.  I was hesitant to hand out
> Trisquel for two reasons:
> 1- I felt Ubuntu would have a better shot of being hardware compatible for
> most people
> 2- I liked being able to point people to the plethora of Ubuntu-centric
> resources online, many of which are especially nice for new users
>
> Final comments:
>
> Putting together this event took time and effort, but it was a lot easier
> than I imagined and the experience was rewarding.  Anyone who hasn't done
> this type of outreach before, shouldn't be intimidated. The hardest part
> was finding a venue.  Roxbury Community College was the only local
> college/university that embraced the concept.  I've had a hard time making
> connections at the other colleges and universities.  But I'm sure there are
> plenty of places that would be receptive to the idea (farmer's markets was
> an interesting idea suggested by Mark Holmquist).
>
> Feel free to respond to this thread or email me privately if you have
> questions.
>
> Will
>
> On 12/03/2012 03:55 PM, Michael Dorrington wrote:
>
>> On 02/12/12 20:38, Gustavo C. M. wrote:
>>
>>> Just an exercise of making distinctions:
>>>
>>>  For example, the owner of an "Internet Cafe" could offer the use of
>>>> Free Software on machines that the users do not own.
>>>> Since the software is not being distributed, the GNU GPL does not come
>>>> into effect.
>>>>
>>> It comes; it's just that it's "propagation", not "conveying", of a
>>> "covered work".
>>>
>> Stop.
>>
>> If only there was a FAQ on the GPL:
>> http://www.gnu.org/licenses/**gpl-faq.html<http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html>
>>
>> I would say the Internet Cafe would be similar to the "Laptop Loan" (but
>> this is not legal advice and I am not a lawyer):
>> http://www.gnu.org/licenses/**gpl-faq.html#LaptopLoan<http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#LaptopLoan>
>>
>> There is also an explanation of the terms propagate and convey:
>> http://www.gnu.org/licenses/**gpl-faq.html#**WhyPropagateAndConvey<http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#WhyPropagateAndConvey>
>>
>> If you do come up with one or more questions (preferably with answers)
>> then could you try to get the FSF to add them to this FAQ (or another
>> FAQ).
>>
>> Carry on. :)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mike.
>>
>>
>
>

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