2016-08-14 19:06 GMT-06:00 MBR <[email protected]>: > This is the kind of argument we need to be making. It's something average > people can relate to because it's real today. Worrying about the plight of > robots in some hypothetical future is not going to interest anyone other > than the most avid Trekkies, and although there may be a lot of people like > that among the programmer population, their numbers are negligible in the > population at large. > > Mark Rosenthal > > > On 8/13/16 2:24 PM, Marcos Marado wrote: > > I won't go as far as to talk about robotic bodies, but the issue is > pertinent today, with current technology. > > I recently read about a woman who has a pacemaker. It had a software bug, > which frightened her. She knows /of/ it but she doesn't know it, since she > doesn't have access to the software running on her own body. Furthermore, > she found out that there is a functionality in it to accept OTA updates, > which she cannot control. Scary. And this is not science fiction, this is a > real case, current technology. > > Unfortunately I don't recall where I read about this, but it was in the > last couple of weeks. On FSFE's newsletter, maybe? > > Here you have some articles about this subject:
Beyond human: How I became a cyborg http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20140107-how-i-became-a-cyborg Could hackers break my heart via my pacemaker? http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-34899713 Wired published the same artcile https://www.wired.com/2016/03/go-ahead-hackers-break-heart/ Anyway, the question can be rephrased to "how ethical it is to implant > non-free software on someone's body?". > > Best regards, > -- > Marcos Marado > ANSOL.org > > On Aug 12, 2016 16:42, "Logan Streondj" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA256 >> >> Hi, >> >> I recently gave a presentation[1] on my libreware project, and someone >> said they really liked the Golden Rule angle of reincarnating as a robot >> . >> >> The typical example I've often read advocating for libreware is the >> car analogy, where you have access to your cars internals. This was a >> great analogy when cars didn't have loads of proprietary software >> installed -- unfortunately it is only increasing because of >> self-driving cars. >> >> However now as we get closer to the twenty twenties, when the >> processing of a human brain should be affordable for a $1000. >> The analogy I use now is: >> >> "When you reincarnate as a robot, do you want to be enslaved by >> proprietary software and hardware, or be liberated by libre software >> and hardware?" >> >> Anyways wondering what you guys think of this angle, >> and if you might use it also. >> I have more detailed slides in my presentation[1]. >> >> >> [1] my presentation SPEL and GI-OS overview (CC-BY-SA): PDF >> http://wyn.bot.nu/spel/src/virtual-machine/manual/presentation.pdf >> source TEX: >> wyn.bot.nu/spel/src/virtual-machine/manual/presentation.tex >> >> - -- >> Logan Streondj, >> A dream of Gaia's future. >> blog: http://joyfullifestyle.ca >> twitter: https://twitter.com/streondj >> >> Speakable Programming for Every Language: >> github: https://github.com/elspru/spel >> intro: http://wyn.bot.nu/spel/src/vocab/gen/start.html >> >> >> You can use encrypted email with me, >> how to: https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/en/ >> key fingerprint: >> BD7E 6E2A E625 6D47 F7ED 30EC 86D8 FC7C FAD7 2729 >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v2 >> >> iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJXrcjeAAoJEIbY/Hz61ycpb5wQAKoNb9F3vRMOzJr5ajoeFe+t >> 93OAvY38SaPbViFGIx/Uw+SA3Rbvg5F5mt/Ln14+QbaLVR5k4TMDuKkGyYgd4NDk >> cZ9TojCHxs3p/wEfzpV6E0+6jFYjfuqSbt1DpXrAsT9R3lTITS4pzshYYl0sDZZD >> xQRIcvjeA2JybHszYeRtl1hb1A617gZ1VyXmD29umlYK/w6DmmIFOQixu198ljXb >> LhGEMunARPgk937LtqqeWV/VW9nY7GE6ofBu6f0H/DpopzxwvVHHEdQsuhMMdqqe >> bzmnFESDiED4OelxlkgxN1TqtABlbTFHVgo0Gw91wM4gmLZxYDsGEDHnYWF+HWXq >> S5pAdbt/2aAI1SSeigtDQCfBWPnqqUuHJvQol/79Xae4D1dsYtVx+evcFz7lU+19 >> dNMWKoM88nD6Yv1rvBcAU6DSvVM11zBlpqRzVC7aSD6YaXy0uTzE3bMOd5BOUjtO >> yGxxJbdQz1So+Rm4iKJvE6rUZl4NokZYC3BW1J6MDTiWSiVPksdlnZneRwX+mk5A >> 83cCtuFVyfSGh9B6SxUlr9JEIyrB/avDvJDtiOe/3JVDjpQFJ/MfZncohIvWJJqk >> THN4eXSbv2ANiuYugdpF+MH44i5OoqQLpfhKc/Gu3tNPfPeAOtMSby3qnmtL+lTT >> sGph5uDGAe+KT1BwrmU6 >> =rRRg >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >> ____ >> >> Freeform discussion: irc.gnu.org #fsf >> Sharing news and links: #fsfct https://microca.st/fsf & >> <https://status.fsf.org/fsf>https://status.fsf.org/fsf >> How to use this list: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/G >> roup:LibrePlanet_Rapid_Responders/Workflow >> > > > ____ > > Freeform discussion: irc.gnu.org #fsf > Sharing news and links: #fsfct https://microca.st/fsf & > https://status.fsf.org/fsf > How to use this list: > https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:LibrePlanet_Rapid_Responders/Workflow > > > > ____ > > Freeform discussion: irc.gnu.org #fsf > Sharing news and links: #fsfct https://microca.st/fsf & > https://status.fsf.org/fsf > How to use this list: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/ > Group:LibrePlanet_Rapid_Responders/Workflow >
