On August 16, 2016 2:49:37 PM GMT-05:00, christopher Lucy <[email protected]> wrote: >Plse keep us up on this thread it has huge privacy & ethical >considerations not to mention wellness issues..CLucy restore 4th > >On Tuesday, August 16, 2016, Aaron E-J <[email protected]> wrote: > >> If an open source device is modified by the end consumer and this >consumer >> does not know what they are doing, in the medical field this can have >life >> threatening consequences. People who do not understand what it means >for >> something to be open source could take a press release about such a >> scenario and run with it; saying that this is a reason for keeping >code a >> secret. Such a program needs for the devices themselves to be very >> secure and un-hackable, but for the method by which the devices are >made >> and the source code to be open. There is tremendous potential for a >> bridge to be formed between the users of the technologies and their >> development. >> >> I was working on a project to develop an open source electrical >muscle >> stimulation device with the initial use going towards the development >of a >> gait retraining system. This is currently on hold, but I would be >> interested in working with other people in starting an open source >medical >> device organization geared towards developing new devices and >advocating >> for a more libre healthcare system. >> >> You can read more details about the device I was developing on my >website: >> otherrealm.org >> >> Let me know if you are interested in such an organization or if you >know >> of existing organizations with this focus. >> >> Aaron E-J http://otherrealm.org http://theotherrealm.org (Blog) >> On 2016-08-13 2:24 PM, Marcos Marado wrote: >> > > I won't go as far as to talk about robotic bodies, but the issue >is >> pertinent today, with current technology. > > I recently read about a >woman >> who has a pacemaker. It had a software bug, which frightened her. She >knows >> /of/ it but she doesn't know it, since she doesn't have access to the >> software running on her own body. Furthermore, she found out that >there is >> a functionality in it to accept OTA updates, which she cannot >control. >> Scary. And this is not science fiction, this is a real case, current >> technology. > > Unfortunately I don't recall where I read about this, >but >> it was in the last couple of weeks. On FSFE's newsletter, maybe? > > >> Anyway, the question can be rephrased to "how ethical it is to >implant >> non-free software on someone's body?". > > Best regards, > -- > >Marcos >> Marado > ANSOL.org > > > On Aug 12, 2016 16:42, "Logan Streondj" < >> [email protected] ><javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: > >> >> Hi, >> >> I recently gave a presentation[1] on my libreware project, and >someone >> said they really liked the Golden Rule angle of reincarnating as a >robot >> . >> >> The typical example I've often read advocating for libreware is the >> car analogy, where you have access to your cars internals. This was a >> great analogy when cars didn't have loads of proprietary software >> installed -- unfortunately it is only increasing because of >> self-driving cars. >> >> However now as we get closer to the twenty twenties, when the >> processing of a human brain should be affordable for a $1000. >> The analogy I use now is: >> >> "When you reincarnate as a robot, do you want to be enslaved by >> proprietary software and hardware, or be liberated by libre software >> and hardware?" >> >> Anyways wondering what you guys think of this angle, >> and if you might use it also. >> I have more detailed slides in my presentation[1]. >> >> >> [1] my presentation SPEL and GI-OS overview (CC-BY-SA): PDF >> http://wyn.bot.nu/spel/src/virtual-machine/manual/presentation.pdf >> <http://wyn.bot.nu/spel/src/virtual-machine/manual/presentation.pdf> >> <http://wyn.bot.nu/spel/src/virtual-machine/manual/presentation.pdf> >> source TEX: >> wyn.bot.nu/spel/src/virtual-machine/manual/presentation.tex >> <http://wyn.bot.nu/spel/src/virtual-machine/manual/presentation.tex> >> <http://wyn.bot.nu/spel/src/virtual-machine/manual/presentation.tex> >> >> > > ____ > > Freeform discussion: irc.gnu.org ><http://irc.gnu.org> >> <http://irc.gnu.org> #fsf > Sharing news and links: #fsfct >> https://microca.st/fsf & https://status.fsf.org/fsf > How to use >this >> list: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:LibrePlanet_Rapid_ >> Responders/Workflow ><https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:LibrePlanet_Rapid_ >> Responders/Workflow> >> ><https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:LibrePlanet_Rapid_Responders/Workflow> >> > >> >> >>
The medical device issue proves just how important it is for Free Software to overcome the slavery by design in closed technologies. The same losses inflicted on humanity's advancement by legacy concepts of intellectual property will persist and amplify in this area. The pharmaceutical and medical device industry already enjoy protections in the EU/US that media companies only dream of. Planned Obselenity (Tivo-ization) is one pharma lacks. Closing device design and software on anything inside or installed on a human overcomes that. The only remaining obstacle in med-tech will be externalities. Think: Nvidia eye replacements for the blind. Imagine being a citizen of Country A using Country B's closed source pacemaker. Much more complex machines are already "weaponized" maybe a few less Country A people means cheaper petroleum or a faster end to a conflict. Think: Bin Ladden with a remote controllable dialysis machine. In relation to the danger of opening control to the user being life-threatening, that's true of any technology since the stone age. Knowing how to safely build a fire for others, that's like a free software job. :) To address the issue of slavery, closed technology is slavery. Most of those using Microsoft, Google, or Facebook have no idea what the EULA or Licences mean. They've been socially engineered into generating data for free (gratis). Working without pay is slavery even if one is entertained. Moreover, very few can even imagine their life without Windows or Facebook. They're addicted. That works so much better than shackles and whips. Could they quit even if they wanted to? Where's the digital underground railroad? The torture of the past has been surpassed (for the most part) with psychological techniques. The level of surveillance, state violence, and social control have increased. Directly telling someone they are digitally enslaved is a hard sell, but I'm very concerned that medical coercion will soon be even more prevalent. Think: Microsoft Health XP home edition. Plug and play! Until we pull the plug. -- TechLibre.net Where your technology finds liberty. TEFL certified English Teacher Registered GNU/Linux User #491032 Registered Ubuntu User #27631
