Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 00:05:04 -0500
From: David VanHorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Homebrew battery packs


>
>Hmm ... could you recommend a webpage or book which would have a suitable 
>circuit or a suitable discussion on how to build a simple circuit that 
>would allow me to charge the pack using a 15 volt supply like the 
>Libretto's power supply? I wanted to use NiMH because I've got a new 3.5AH 
>12 volt NiMH battery pack which is a good size (its about 2/3 the area of 
>the Libretto's base so if I were to make it into a slice there would be 
>plenty of space for a charging circuit) - it WAS for a laptop I used to 
>have which died about a month after I got the new pack :-/

How many cells are you running?
I wouldn't put much more into it than the 10.8V of a full charged Li-Ion 
pack, at least not in through the battery terminals.

If you've got say a 9 cell pack, then you could do a simple slow charger.
You'll get into charge depression if you leave it on slow rate too long though.
The MAX712 is a decent charge controller, but it's a bit of a project.

Lead acid cells really are the simplest to charge. Just feed them a 
constant voltage, limit the current, and you're done.


>What sort of battery life do you people with 50CTs get with new battery 
>packs? I know the pack is rated at 1.2AH but my Libretto 50CT is second 
>hand - the battery pack is already shot so it only runs for half an hour 
>on a full charge.

An hour or so on the standard pack IIRC. Mine's hardly new.
I haven't timed them out recently.

>For that matter, does anyone have any opinions or experience regarding how 
>you can trick the regulator on the Libretto by first applying 15 volts (to 
>get it to turn on) then dropping back to 12 volts to run? (Xin does it on 
>that page I posted earlier.) I'm just a little hesitant to try that out as 
>the manual does state (page 2-3 in my manual) that 'Inadequate voltage ... 
>could damage the computer'. For that matter, given the inbuilt pack is 
>10.8 volts, is it likely to charge if the input was dropped to 12 volts? 
>(I have no idea what sorta voltage drop your average charge circuit would 
>have).

I don't believe inadequate voltage will hurt anything.
The power pack is a switcher, and will run from DC, I checked it on my 
bench DC supply.
The lib behaves nicely at low voltages, but it dosen't start up till you 
exceed 13.8V.
Xin's info is good.


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