Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 19:37:45 +0800
From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] OT: Editing MS-DOS FAT?

At 11:43 PM 20/10/2002 -0700, you wrote:
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 08:37:15 +0200
From: Christian Gennerat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] OT: Editing MS-DOS FAT?

Matthew Hanson wrote:

Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:04:04 +0000
From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] OT: Editing MS-DOS FAT?

I don't remember. I have switched to Linux for a long time.
mc (Midnight Commander, the NC clone) can sort
by Name, Extension, Size, Date

Hmmm... but what I need to do it be able to sort them in an order I want them to play -

which is the order they appear in the FAT
So, the option "no sort" will be good !
The problem isn't the way it's viewed. The problem is the way it's stored. On FAT12/16/32 the file table is simply a flat file so files appear in the order in which they were added until you start deleting files in which case new file entries appear in the holes that are formed. Note that we're not talking about the actual data clusters here, we're talking about the table that contains indexes into where the actual data is.

Programs such as DOS's DIR, Windows Explorer, Norton Commander, Midnight Commander, ls and the like read this table and, by default, sort the entries before presenting them to you which is why 99.9% of the time you see a directory entry in some order (be it alphabetic, chronological, by size, etc.). The problem is though that very few, if any, of these programs are able to re-order that table on the disk (simply because on a normal computer, there isn't any point). The problem is Matthew's player plays the songs in the order as listed in that table.

I'm not saying you're getting these concepts confused but I can see this tread losing a few people ...


- Raymond

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