Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 16:01:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] speed gain using flash card


--- Philip Nienhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 09:51:48 +0100
> From: Philip Nienhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [LIB] speed gain using flash card
> 
Hello Philip
:
<snip>
> > getting with a standard hard drive. The extreme
> III
> > and IV are opproximatly twice and three times as
> fast
> > as the II so if I would get another increase if I
> > upgraded to one of those. 
> > 
> > I am getting 4 MB as opposed to 1.5 to 2 with the
> hard
> > drive. I should expect 6 and 8MB with the extreme
> III
> > and IV.
> 
> AFAIK (based on a vague reminiscence and a google
> search) the 
> theoretical maximum data transfer speed on an ISA
> bus is about 6 MB/s. 
> As the Lib110's HD is attached through a 16 bit ISA
> connection (without 
> DMA), that 6 MB/s is about all you'll get.
> Or am I wrong here? (hopefully not, for your sake)

I knew there was some sort of limit, I thought it was
32 MB/s about half of the memory subsystem. But that
could be the pci limit.

> 
> > I am also using a second flash card for a virtual
> > memory drive but it is an old one so only gives
> hard
> > drive speeds. If I updated that with a newer one I
> > would think the increase in speed be noticalbe in
> swap
> > file use. 
> 
> How did you connect that 2nd one? thru the PCMCIA
> slot?

Yes.

> I remember I found an external -PCMCIA, or rather,
> Cardbus- HD to be 
> clearly faster than the internal one (I had a 7200
> rpm Hitachi inside). 
> There was also a thread on this in the mailing list.

the differance is in the clock speeds, ISA is slower
than PCI.

> 
> > I notice a real reduction in temperature also
> using a
> > solid state drive. My libretto was always having
> to
> > slow down to cool off but it is very cool now when
> it
> > runs.
> 
> Anyway it all sounds like a bright idea to me.

Thanks. I like it so much because the libretto is
perfectly silent when it runs now too!!

> 
> Any idea about battery power savings using flash
> rather than rotating 
> storage?

I don't think there is much differance, my libby
reports about 5 1/2 hours usually but I notice I don't
have to plug in the adapter now until I am ready to
shut down. It kinda did that before but not so
routinely. Battery life is so dependant on what a
person is doing. Where I really notice a differance is
in spin up times. There are none, with a hard drive
spin up times were very noticeable.


> 
> Sometimes I feel a bit sorry to have decommissioned
> my L110; it merely 
> serves as a sort of book stand, right on top of a

What do you use in place of it? I tried the U100 but
it fried like twice on me. It was a piece of junk.
They run too hot and Toshiba doesn't cover them under
warrenty. My 110 keeps plugging along no matter
what:).

> much older DEC 
> 450SLC/e notebook (with a 50 Mhz 486-DX2 inside -
> wow). Sometimes I 
> start them up just for fun, like today when the
> clocks in my place 
> "must" be reset to winter time.
> 
> BTW have you ever had any luck upgrading the RAM
> beyond 64 MB? (I 
> remember you were busy with that). There were some
> guys who have fitted 

And still am:). I am fitting a wire buss to an old
libretto 32MB ram upgrade board. I am going to solder
the buss to a couple, maybe three, of so-dimm sockets.
I am going to run the so-dimm sockets into the hard
drive bay, where I have room now (I was just waiting
until compact flash capacity got large enough to use
as a hard drive so I could try this and have space
inside the libretto), and try using standard so-dimm
edo plug-in modules. It is slow going because I don't
have anywhere to work and lack tools.

I don't think I'll have to remove the soldered chips
on the motherboard.

I have also been thinking of installing a sdram
controller and use sdram but all of that is very hard
to do since all I have is the memory upgrade port to
use for access.

The hard drive bay is a great place for all kinds of
fun!!

> a Portege 64 MB module in the extension slot to get
> 96 MB; that was the 
> max I've ever heard of w.r.t. Lib110.....

Yes I remember the upgrade. I am sure the libretto can
handle ram up to, at least, 512MB and 8 socketed
modules.

john

> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Philip
> 
> 
> 
> 


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