Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 06:01:26 +0100
From: "Avi Cohen Stuart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [LIB] speed gain using flash card

John,

I am very interested in the technical details on the >64MB libretto
upgrade.
I don't mind to experiment but currently don't have a clue to do what...

Avi. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, 29 October, 2007 0:03
> To: Libretto
> Subject: Re: [LIB] speed gain using flash card
> 
> Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 16:01:36 -0700 (PDT)
> From: John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [LIB] speed gain using flash card
> 
> 
> --- Philip Nienhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 09:51:48 +0100
> > From: Philip Nienhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [LIB] speed gain using flash card
> > 
> Hello Philip
> :
> <snip>
> > > getting with a standard hard drive. The extreme
> > III
> > > and IV are opproximatly twice and three times as
> > fast
> > > as the II so if I would get another increase if I 
> upgraded to one of 
> > > those.
> > > 
> > > I am getting 4 MB as opposed to 1.5 to 2 with the
> > hard
> > > drive. I should expect 6 and 8MB with the extreme
> > III
> > > and IV.
> > 
> > AFAIK (based on a vague reminiscence and a google
> > search) the
> > theoretical maximum data transfer speed on an ISA bus is 
> about 6 MB/s.
> > As the Lib110's HD is attached through a 16 bit ISA connection 
> > (without DMA), that 6 MB/s is about all you'll get.
> > Or am I wrong here? (hopefully not, for your sake)
> 
> I knew there was some sort of limit, I thought it was
> 32 MB/s about half of the memory subsystem. But that could be 
> the pci limit.
> 
> > 
> > > I am also using a second flash card for a virtual memory 
> drive but 
> > > it is an old one so only gives
> > hard
> > > drive speeds. If I updated that with a newer one I would 
> think the 
> > > increase in speed be noticalbe in
> > swap
> > > file use. 
> > 
> > How did you connect that 2nd one? thru the PCMCIA slot?
> 
> Yes.
> 
> > I remember I found an external -PCMCIA, or rather,
> > Cardbus- HD to be
> > clearly faster than the internal one (I had a 7200 rpm Hitachi 
> > inside).
> > There was also a thread on this in the mailing list.
> 
> the differance is in the clock speeds, ISA is slower than PCI.
> 
> > 
> > > I notice a real reduction in temperature also
> > using a
> > > solid state drive. My libretto was always having
> > to
> > > slow down to cool off but it is very cool now when
> > it
> > > runs.
> > 
> > Anyway it all sounds like a bright idea to me.
> 
> Thanks. I like it so much because the libretto is perfectly 
> silent when it runs now too!!
> 
> > 
> > Any idea about battery power savings using flash rather 
> than rotating 
> > storage?
> 
> I don't think there is much differance, my libby reports 
> about 5 1/2 hours usually but I notice I don't have to plug 
> in the adapter now until I am ready to shut down. It kinda 
> did that before but not so routinely. Battery life is so 
> dependant on what a person is doing. Where I really notice a 
> differance is in spin up times. There are none, with a hard 
> drive spin up times were very noticeable.
> 
> 
> > 
> > Sometimes I feel a bit sorry to have decommissioned my 
> L110; it merely 
> > serves as a sort of book stand, right on top of a
> 
> What do you use in place of it? I tried the U100 but it fried 
> like twice on me. It was a piece of junk.
> They run too hot and Toshiba doesn't cover them under 
> warrenty. My 110 keeps plugging along no matter what:).
> 
> > much older DEC
> > 450SLC/e notebook (with a 50 Mhz 486-DX2 inside - wow). Sometimes I 
> > start them up just for fun, like today when the clocks in my place 
> > "must" be reset to winter time.
> > 
> > BTW have you ever had any luck upgrading the RAM beyond 64 MB? (I 
> > remember you were busy with that). There were some guys who have 
> > fitted
> 
> And still am:). I am fitting a wire buss to an old libretto 
> 32MB ram upgrade board. I am going to solder the buss to a 
> couple, maybe three, of so-dimm sockets.
> I am going to run the so-dimm sockets into the hard drive 
> bay, where I have room now (I was just waiting until compact 
> flash capacity got large enough to use as a hard drive so I 
> could try this and have space inside the libretto), and try 
> using standard so-dimm edo plug-in modules. It is slow going 
> because I don't have anywhere to work and lack tools.
> 
> I don't think I'll have to remove the soldered chips on the 
> motherboard.
> 
> I have also been thinking of installing a sdram controller 
> and use sdram but all of that is very hard to do since all I 
> have is the memory upgrade port to use for access.
> 
> The hard drive bay is a great place for all kinds of fun!!
> 
> > a Portege 64 MB module in the extension slot to get
> > 96 MB; that was the
> > max I've ever heard of w.r.t. Lib110.....
> 
> Yes I remember the upgrade. I am sure the libretto can handle 
> ram up to, at least, 512MB and 8 socketed modules.
> 
> john
> 
> > 
> > Best wishes,
> > 
> > Philip
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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