Well, it has to have a good event handling model, it needs all the
essential widgets to be able to create enterprise ready applications
(sortable and filterable tables, trees, etc.), and it would be nice to
include a good data source model for the widgets.

What I'm talking about is something in the lines of GWT, or SmartGWT
(http://www.smartclient.com/smartgwt/showcase/) or GWT-Ext (http://
www.gwt-ext.com/demo/).

I think in a couple of years one could also build enterprise UIs with
JavaFX or Flex / Adobe Air.

I'm not that familiar with JQuery, and maybe it provides an UI
framework that can also turn out to be valid option. Right now I don't
see it:
- It does not have that many widgets
- I suppose one still has to worry about the html page flows (as
opposed to GWT where one can completely ignore the actual existence of
web pages, and one can really feel just like implementing a desktop
application) and finally
- I don't see an integration with a data source model (but this can be
pure ignorance from my part)

I know this is not the JQuery list :-) but that David's quotation
aroused my curiosity about the Bespin + Lift project. In another
occasion, David also said "I'm just not a fan of the GWT model". I
wander what he meant...

Anyway this is just a starting point for me, I don't have any fixed
ideas. Please comment :-)


On Aug 7, 9:27 pm, "marius d." <[email protected]> wrote:
> What do you mean by UI framework here? Lift is pretty neatly
> integrated with JQuery, or you can use YUI or virtually any UI
> framework.
>
> So what are your expectations from a UI framework?
>
> Br's,
> Marius
>
> On Aug 7, 10:55 pm, ivo <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
>
> > I want to start learning about promising technologies for building
> > full stack RIAs. It doesn't need to be something very powerful today,
> > but something that I can seriously consider for building commercial
> > applications in 1 or 2 years from now.
>
> > Let me divide what I mean by "full stack" into 3 parts: (1) Data
> > backend, (2) Web framework and (3) UI framework.
>
> > I was wondering if Lift + Goat Rodeo could be it, but I still think
> > that the UI framework is still missing. Quoting a post from David that
> > I found around the web: "The Bespin folks are working on a GUI builder
> > called Thunderclap.  Dion and I want to make it so that building GUI
> > apps with Bespin and Lift is as simple as wiring up applications in OS
> > X's Interface Builder." Do you have any other news about this project
> > (or know where to look at)?
>
> > Please share your thoughts...
>
> > Thanks!

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