Well the way I see it is <lift:insert at=""> .. So the semantic would
always be insert-at .. such as "insert this markup at this bind
position"... which in essence is an insert operation that makes a lot
of sense - to me at least.

On the other hand "<lift:embed>" embeds a template into *this*
position so there is no *at* semantic. So the way I see it the two
don't step on each other toes.

Br's,
Marius

On Aug 20, 4:34 pm, Timothy Perrett <[email protected]> wrote:
> Can I just make an objection to calling it "insert" - IMO, that's a conflict
> with the language semantic of "embed" - I agree with-param is not ideal, but
> im not sure that "insert" is ideal either. I also agree with marius, what
> would you suggest to resolve this issue?
>
> I tried to post yesterday but it looks like my mail didn't make it into the
> group.
>
> Cheers, Tim
>
> On 20/08/2009 14:15, "marius d." <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I will add <lift:insert> support .. personally I don't feel very
> > comfortable allowing builtin snippets to have different names. One
> > case I'm thinking of that people may change them, post issues on the
> > list and we'd have o idea what the user really uses which may lead to
> > longer discussions and support. I've learned my lesson with over-
> > customization of things; it can bring real pains sometimes.
>
> > Just my 2 cents ...
>
> > Br's,
> > Marius
>
> > On Aug 20, 4:09 pm, inca <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Yes, David, that's wonderful idea, too. Should eliminate many
> >> headaches.
>
> >> On 20 авг, 01:59, David Pollak <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:46 AM, marius d. <[email protected]> 
> >>> wrote:
>
> >>>> This is a decision that needs consensus ... and David's agreement.
>
> >>> I'm cool with it.
>
> >>> It might also be worth thinking about creating some "alias" library so 
> >>> folks
> >>> could change the default names of Lift's snippets.  Or maybe that's just a
> >>> bad idea.
>
> >>>> Personally I agree with it but others may not.
>
> >>>> Br's,
> >>>> Marius
>
> >>>> On Aug 19, 12:41 pm, inca <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>> Why not just introduce the new tag, leaving the former alone (possibly
> >>>>> deprecated in next major releases)?
>
> >>>>> On 19 авг, 12:07, "marius d." <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>>>> Yes we tried to deprecate it but later on we un-derprecate it :)
>
> >>>>>> So you can use <lift:with-param> safely. Purely for naming perspective
> >>>>>> <lift:insert> seems to me more intuitive than <lift:with-param> ...
> >>>>>> I'm not sure if this is a strong enough motivation to change the name
> >>>>>> hence inducing a breaking change.
>
> >>>>>> Br's,
> >>>>>> Marius
>
> >>>>>> On Aug 19, 10:55 am, inca <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>> As suggested inhttp://
> >>>> groups.google.com/group/liftweb/browse_thread/thread/d664b712d...
> >>>>>>> by Mr. Marius D., I should use lift:with-param in order to insert
> >>>>>>> content into multiple bind points of template. But recently I read
> >>>>>>> that this tag is deprecated. What alternatives are available?
> >>>>>>> P.S. I would propose <lift:insert at="bindPointName"> tag for this
> >>>>>>> purpose. And the contents of <lift:bind name="bindPointName"> tag
> >>>>>>> should be assumed as default if none <lift:insert ...> tag overrides
> >>>>>>> it.
>
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