On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 5:22 AM, Alexander Kobel-2 [via Lilypond] < ml-node+s1069038n198284...@n5.nabble.com> wrote:
> On 2016-12-20 17:21, Abraham Lee wrote: > > Yes, thanks for making this possible! It will be a great addition. > > Thanks Abraham. > > > One question I have about having the two properties is how will the two > be > > reconciled in actual use? In other words, if collapse-length is larger > than > > forced-length, will there still be the same amount of space between > > syllables even without the extender (to the amount of forced-length)? > > One thing remains identical to the current situation: Extenders never > ever influence horizontal spacing. > > > Maybe the question I really have is this: what does "given this length > _if > > possible_" mean and what governs this possibility? I can totally > understand > > how they work individually, I'm just trying to understand how I can use > > them well together since it seems that forced-length contradicts > > collapse-length. > > You won't really use them together; at least, not both will be effective > at the same time: > (1) If the natural length (essentially: the distance from the right end > of the syllable to the right end of the last note in the corresponding > melisma) is less than collapse-length, this extender will not be printed. > (2) If you /force/ an extender, that is, you explicitly add one for a > syllable that does not belong to a melisma, there is no "natural length" > - simply because there is no "natural extender". The "faked" length of > such an extender will be given by the minimum of forced-length and the > available space to the next syllable. Again, this will not affect the > space between the notes. > > Forced extenders should only be necessary under extraordinary > circumstances, such as an extender reaching into a alternative ending of > a repeat, re-extending after rests, or even more obscure design studies. > Ah! I understand now. Thank you for explaining that. So, it's "Force an extender to appear if there is sufficient space (i.e., at least as much as "collapse-length"), even in places they wouldn't normally be used." Is that right? If so, then I think "forced-length" is not the right name for it. Perhaps just "force" or "force-all"? Or is forced appearance not subject to "collapse-length"? Best, Abraham -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/music-function-to-be-included-somewhere-in-scm-tp197960p198288.html Sent from the Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
