We get milk in glass bottles here in Groton/Pepperell at Wilkins Farm.

I love those dishwasher soap tablets, and I also get Biokleen laundry
detergent that is a powder in a carton box. Very nice!! :)

On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 5:48 PM Alice Waugh <[email protected]> wrote:

> Some baby steps we've taken to cut down on plastic are to buy only organic
> milk — not the health reasons but because it seems to be the only kind they
> sell in carto rather than plastic bottles — and buying laundry soap and
> dishwasher soap that doesn't come in plastic bottles. We use the ones
> below, but there are lots of other non-plastic products on the market:
>
> Ecover Automatic Dishwasher Soap Tablets
> <https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MFPZJZ4/>
> Earth Breeze Laundry Detergent Sheets
> <https://smile.amazon.com/Earth-Breeze-Fresh-Laundry-Sheets/dp/B08GF7YGCD/>
>
> Alice
>
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 2:05 PM Daniela Caride <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> We avoid packaging (plastic and anything) as much as possible, by buying
>> bulk (we get a lot of stuff from local farms and Azure), by making foods at
>> home, and by looking for products with less packaging when we can't avoid
>> them altogether (milk, as we don't want to have cows). It's not perfect,
>> but we were able to stop generating quite a lot of trash and recycles in
>> the last couple of years.
>>
>> Here is what we have made so far: bread, cream cheese, tortillas, mayo,
>> tomato sauce, peanut butter, almond butter, pizza crusts, crackers,
>> candied nuts, sparkling water. We also mill our grains at home (wheat,
>> spelt, corn).
>>
>> We keep chickens for eggs and bees for honey (which we use instead of
>> sugar), and we grow an insane amount of veggies to feed ourselves and the
>> chickens, and avoid chicken feed as much as we can.
>>
>> We recycle almost anything by feeding it to the chickens or the dogs.
>> Nowadays, none of our food goes into the trash, especially because we
>> compost whatever is left form the chicken and dog system.
>>
>> Oh, and we use our own bags at the market and we seldom get takeout.
>>
>> Now, I have to say we are into eating very simple, and I'm not sure many
>> people would enjoy what we eat (too bland?). Our lifestyle is probably too
>> boring.
>>
>> Also, this is all very time consuming compared to picking up stuff from a
>> shelf at the market, but we find it quite easy and fun, and we get to know
>> exactly what we ingest (or close to it).
>>
>> What we do also requires space (for storing grain, sheltering chickens,
>> composting) and time (to clean, prepare, cook, wash, troubleshoot and
>> research).
>>
>> I'm not sure if our lifestyle makes any difference in the grand scheme of
>> things. Probably none. But if anyone feels like trying any of those things,
>> shoot me an email. :) Also, if you have any tips on any activities of the
>> sort, let's talk!
>>
>> Don't know where all the trash goes nowadays (I did a masters in
>> environmental sciences a lifetime ago and I'm sure the techniques have
>> improved) but I remember reading about the possibility of shipping trash to
>> outer space.
>>
>> Maybe one day we'll have enough tech to clean up the mess we are making
>> here, and even up there.
>>
>> šŸ¤ž
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:26 PM wayne vetrone <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> A large part of our household buying decisions is based upon packaging.
>>>
>>> Costco is one of the worst.  Large plastic containers for 6 apples.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 1:18 PM Adirah Adanech King <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Debra's in Concord allows you to bring in your own containers now to
>>>> buy from their bulk section.
>>>>
>>>> Victoria
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2022, 1:13 PM Debra Daugherty <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for telling me about that--I order from Virsa De Punjab too,
>>>>> but limit it as much as possible because of the waste. Awesome to know 
>>>>> they
>>>>> will reuse containers!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 12:50 PM Belinda Gingrich <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yesterday I tried bringing my own containers for the first time. I
>>>>>> visited Versa de Punjab in Bedford. I called in the order, dropped off 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> dishes 15 min later. Next time I’l drop off the containers with the order
>>>>>> and go shopping at whole foods or stop and shop, we were heading that way
>>>>>> anyhow. It worked out well and I even remembered to ask for no little
>>>>>> sauces for the first time.
>>>>>> A new tradition!
>>>>>> Belinda
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > On Jun 27, 2022, at 11:59 AM, Alice Waugh <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > These are very valid points, but I think there's a much bigger
>>>>>> plastics problem with takeout containers. The translucent cylindrical 
>>>>>> soup
>>>>>> containers and the black trays with clear lids are piling up in 
>>>>>> everyone's
>>>>>> kitchen. I understand that black plastic can't be recycled at all, but 
>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>> unclear (no pun intended) about the soup containers. We save all of them
>>>>>> for leftovers but we have only so much space in the cabinet. Does anyone
>>>>>> know of any place that will take these containers for some other use?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Also, is there any sentiment among environmentalists for pressuring
>>>>>> restaurants to go back to the aluminum trays with cardboard lids? I don't
>>>>>> think there's a viable non-plastic alternative for liquids but it would 
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> great if we could revert to the old-fashioned containers for the solids.
>>>>>> And yes, I know, the real answer is that we should just not do
>>>>>> pickup/takeout at all, but especially in the Covid era, I don't think
>>>>>> that's realistic for most people.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Alice Waugh
>>>>>>
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