Right - state law

On Sun, Sep 3, 2023 at 9:25 AM aaron beck <[email protected]> wrote:

> I think it’s allowed because people use bikes for drop off and pick up at
> school as well as ride them to school and back home. It’s also the law they
> can use the road.
>
> Aaron Q. Beck
>
>
>
> On Sep 3, 2023, at 8:54 AM, john gregg via Lincoln <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> So I guess my question would be why is road traffic like bikes allowed
> during school drop off and pick up times? Seems like an easy fix, if you
> plan to use the roads on a bike plan to go around Bedford Road and when you
> can utilize the paths to get from A to B. Placing blame on the car and not
> having any accountability with the bike seems a bit irresponsible
> considering the only person who has insurance given an accident is the
> driver of an insured vehicle.
>
> Thanks,
> John Gregg
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 2, 2023, at 3:33 PM, Sara Mattes <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> You re correct regarding public safety-it involves response time.
> As it is, Lincoln Road is a challenge for them-imagine an ambulance or
> firetruck trying to navigate that road during rush and school
> drop-offs...no shoulder for anyone to pull on to.
> Add speed bumps/humps and it is really an issue.
> When I was a Select, we calculated reposes times to North Lincoln.,
> They were appreciably increased with the addition of any roadway
> intrusion-those heavy vehicles need to slow to a near stop to safely get
> over one.
> And then they have to regain speed.
>
> We had an instance where a child in N.Lincoln was saved from
> choking-Public Safety arrived within seconds of the child dying.
> If they would have had to slow for a bump/hump, it would have been a
> different outcome.
>
> That certainly opened my eyes to what I had once seen as a logical
> solution to some of our traffic challenges.
>
> Sara
>
>
> ------
> Sara Mattes
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 2, 2023, at 11:27 AM, iearlerice--- via Lincoln <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> I remember hearing that speed bumps can be a problem for public safety
> vehicles in emergencies. Does anyone know if that is correct?
>
> Also, I thought that bicyclists are supposed to follow the same rules as
> cars. Having witnessed many such incidents as Lisa described happen in
> front of police, I have never seen a bicyclist cited. When I worked and
> drove in Boston, it was quite nerve-wracking when they wove through traffic.
>
> Irene Earle-Rice
> South Great Rd.
>
> On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 09:37:43 AM EDT, gail o'keefe <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Hi John and all,
>
> I'm curious why your list of ideas didn't include increased enforcement on
> our road, or speed bumps? It wouldn't take much to reinstate the reputation
> of Lincoln as being strict on speed. Bakers Bridge Road is another to add
> to the above list of Sandy Pond, Weston Road, Tower Rd and Lincoln Rd.
>
> An article in the Globe just highlighted the extensive use of speed bumps
> in Somerville. Towns are catching on that the car culture has run its
> course.
> Gail
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 2:40 PM John Mendelson <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Here's a handful of ideas:
>
> Come to the next BPAC meeting
> <https://lincolntown.org/1083/Bicycle-Pedestrian-Advisory-Committee> on
> September 28 at 7:30pm on Zoom.
>
> Speak to your friends and neighbors about the need to slow down and focus
> only on driving when behind the wheel.
>
> Encourage your local and state representatives to prioritize public and
> alternative forms of transportation.
>
> Volunteer as a crossing guard during Walk, Bike, Roll to School Week in
> the Spring.
>
> Walk back and forth along Lincoln Road between Town Hall and the 5 way
> between 7:45-8am to observe how many people are on their phones behind the
> wheel.
>
> Attend an RTC meeting
> <https://www.lincolntown.org/152/Roadway-Traffic-Committee> and voice
> your support for infrastructure improvements that lower speeds and
> prioritize walkers and cyclists.
>
> Try to eliminate 1 vehicle trip per week and walk or ride instead.
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
>
> On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 2:21 PM Sara Mattes <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> This is terrible.
> It should NOT be happening…but, I for one will do whatever I can to
> protect myself, including wearing that ugly vest.
> At this time, that is all I can do.
> We can come together, as a region, and discuss how we might be proactive,
> as communities.
> How can we turn outrage from finger-wagging and furor into practical
> constructive actions?
>
>
> ------
> Sara Mattes
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 31, 2023, at 2:12 PM, John Mendelson <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> People, a SCHOOL BUS hit a cyclist in broad daylight.  This is not about
> what anyone should be wearing but rather about the fact that driving
> entitlement is reaching epidemic proportions here in Lincoln and all across
> the country.
>
> Much like gun-violence, there is plenty of outrage and lots of thoughts
> and prayers and high-vis clothing suggestions but until we are willing to
> confront the fact that traffic safety is a uniquely American problem and a
> result of high vehicle speeds, larger cars, and road structure
> deficiencies, nothing will change.
>
>
> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2022-11-03/why-us-traffic-safety-fell-so-far-behind-other-countries
>
> The US underperformance in road safety is especially dramatic: 11.4
> Americans per 100,000
> <https://www.nhtsa.gov/press-releases/2020-traffic-crash-data-fatalities> died
> in crashes in 2020, a number that dwarfs countries including Spain (2.9
> <https://www.itf-oecd.org/sites/default/files/spain-road-safety.pdf>),
> Israel (3.3
> <https://www.timesofisrael.com/virus-lockdowns-help-cut-israels-2020-traffic-deaths-by-15/>)
> and New Zealand (6.3
> <https://www.itf-oecd.org/sites/default/files/spain-road-safety.pdf>).
> And unlike most developed nations, US roadways have grown more deadly
> during the last two decades (including during the pandemic
> <https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/u-s-road-deaths-rise-at-record-pace-as-risky-driving-persists>),
> especially for those outside of cars. Last year saw the most pedestrians
> killed in the US in 40 years
> <https://www.ghsa.org/resources/news-releases/GHSA/Ped-Spotlight-Full-Report22#:~:text=WASHINGTON%2C%20D.C.%20%E2%80%93%20Drivers%20struck%20and,Highway%20Safety%20Association%20(GHSA).>,
> and deaths among those biking rose 44%
> <https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/u-s-road-deaths-rise-at-record-pace-as-risky-driving-persists>
>  from
> 2010 to 2020.
>
> On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 2:01 PM Laura Koller <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> I’m also a long time road cyclist, and I feel much more visible since I’ve
> added front (white) and rear (red) blinkers to my bike. Passing cars seem
> to give me much wider berth. It’s an extra step but seems very worthwhile.
> I also wear a day-glo green helmet. Visibility really does make a
> difference, imo.
>
> Laura
>
> On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 1:54 PM V Saleme <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> As a cyclist who resides in this town and accrues on average 250 miles a
> week between trails and the road, I believe it’s important to devise a way
> of getting out of this echo chamber and speak to the broader group of
> people who, let’s face it, use this town as a cut through. They are the
> problem, not the local residents.
>
> If I had to hazard to guess, they’re (non Lincoln residents) not on
> Lincoln Talk and as they execute twice the speed limit minimally, on Tower
> Rd., Deerhaven Rd., Sandy Pond Road, Lincoln Road, Bedford Road (where
> there’s an actual sign that states “cyclists may use entire lane” if you
> can believe it) thus head nodding amongst ourselves is not going to be
> effective.
>
> Vic
>
> On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 1:41 PM John Mendelson <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> And I would strongly urge drivers to slow down, obey the law,
> <https://www.mass.gov/info-details/mass-general-laws-c90-ss-14> and pay
> attention to what is in front of them at all times when behind the wheel of
> a large, powerful object capable of inflicting terrible injuries to
> walkers, cyclists, and other drivers.
>
> There is no clear consensus that high-visibility clothing makes a
> difference for pedestrian nor cyclist safety so let's please avoid any
> potential victim-blaming.
>
> See:
>
>
> https://www.cyclinguk.org/sites/default/files/document/2023/08/21-03_ca_hi-vis_brf_1.pdf
> (includes multiple peer reviewed studies)
>
> and
>
>
> https://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-gear/bikes-and-biking/hi-viz-clothing-cyclists/
>
> Thanks!
>
> John
>
> On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 1:21 PM Sara Mattes <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I would strongly urge all walkers and bikers to wear some sort of neon/
> reflective safety vest.
> They are lightweight and cheap and they really help drivers see us.
>
> Dark clothing, esp at dusk or in mottled shade, makes us disappear.
> ------
> Sara Mattes
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 31, 2023, at 12:47 PM, Lynne Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Fascinating article! As a helmet and goggle wearing cyclist, I’m now going
> to be extra careful since some drivers might not recognize me as human!
>
> Lynne Smith
> 5 Tabor Hill Road
> Lincoln, MA 01773
> 781-258-1175
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 31 Aug 2023, at 11:24 a.m., Ginger Reiner <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> 
> Julianne,
>
> That was me. I actually was hit by the school van in the interaction
> although I stayed upright and am not hurt. Thanks for reaching out and I’d
> love a witness statement.
>
> To the rest of LincolnTalk, I write this as a reply-all because people on
> bikes are sometimes viewed as “less human” or seen as being “not from
> Lincoln” (which shouldn’t matter), and I hope that attaching my name to
> Julianne’s story might help to counteract both of those impressions.
>
> https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1369847823001018
>
> Ginger
>
> On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 8:59 AM jsug--- via Lincoln <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi There,
>
> If you are the cyclist who was nearly hit by the school van on Lincoln
> Road this morning just before 8 am, and you were hoping to report this, I
> wanted to let you know I would be happy to provide witness statement if
> needed.
>
> Best,
> Julianne
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