John,
Are you being serious?  Or was this in jest?
Suggesting that one citizen compromise their right to use a road for the convenience of another?
Please tell me you don’t seriously thing everyone else should navigate around the hours of jerks in cars through the middle of our town during busy hours?

Thornton Ring

On Sep 3, 2023, at 08:54, john gregg via Lincoln <[email protected]> wrote:

So I guess my question would be why is road traffic like bikes allowed during school drop off and pick up times? Seems like an easy fix, if you plan to use the roads on a bike plan to go around Bedford Road and when you can utilize the paths to get from A to B. Placing blame on the car and not having any accountability with the bike seems a bit irresponsible considering the only person who has insurance given an accident is the driver of an insured vehicle. 

Thanks, 
John Gregg

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On Sep 2, 2023, at 3:33 PM, Sara Mattes <[email protected]> wrote:

You re correct regarding public safety-it involves response time.
As it is, Lincoln Road is a challenge for them-imagine an ambulance or firetruck trying to navigate that road during rush and school drop-offs...no shoulder for anyone to pull on to.
Add speed bumps/humps and it is really an issue.
When I was a Select, we calculated reposes times to North Lincoln.,
They were appreciably increased with the addition of any roadway intrusion-those heavy vehicles need to slow to a near stop to safely get over one.
And then they have to regain speed.

We had an instance where a child in N.Lincoln was saved from choking-Public Safety arrived within seconds of the child dying.
If they would have had to slow for a bump/hump, it would have been a different outcome.

That certainly opened my eyes to what I had once seen as a logical solution to some of our traffic challenges.

Sara


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On Sep 2, 2023, at 11:27 AM, iearlerice--- via Lincoln <[email protected]> wrote:

I remember hearing that speed bumps can be a problem for public safety vehicles in emergencies. Does anyone know if that is correct?

Also, I thought that bicyclists are supposed to follow the same rules as cars. Having witnessed many such incidents as Lisa described happen in front of police, I have never seen a bicyclist cited. When I worked and drove in Boston, it was quite nerve-wracking when they wove through traffic.

Irene Earle-Rice
South Great Rd.

On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 09:37:43 AM EDT, gail o'keefe <[email protected]> wrote:


Hi John and all,

I'm curious why your list of ideas didn't include increased enforcement on our road, or speed bumps? It wouldn't take much to reinstate the reputation of Lincoln as being strict on speed. Bakers Bridge Road is another to add to the above list of Sandy Pond, Weston Road, Tower Rd and Lincoln Rd.

An article in the Globe just highlighted the extensive use of speed bumps in Somerville. Towns are catching on that the car culture has run its course.
Gail


On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 2:40 PM John Mendelson <[email protected]> wrote:
Here's a handful of ideas:

Come to the next BPAC meeting on September 28 at 7:30pm on Zoom.  

Speak to your friends and neighbors about the need to slow down and focus only on driving when behind the wheel.  

Encourage your local and state representatives to prioritize public and alternative forms of transportation.  

Volunteer as a crossing guard during Walk, Bike, Roll to School Week in the Spring.

Walk back and forth along Lincoln Road between Town Hall and the 5 way between 7:45-8am to observe how many people are on their phones behind the wheel.

Attend an RTC meeting and voice your support for infrastructure improvements that lower speeds and prioritize walkers and cyclists.

Try to eliminate 1 vehicle trip per week and walk or ride instead.

Thanks,

John

On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 2:21 PM Sara Mattes <[email protected]> wrote:
This is terrible.
It should NOT be happening…but, I for one will do whatever I can to protect myself, including wearing that ugly vest.
At this time, that is all I can do.
We can come together, as a region, and discuss how we might be proactive, as communities.
How can we turn outrage from finger-wagging and furor into practical constructive actions?


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On Aug 31, 2023, at 2:12 PM, John Mendelson <[email protected]> wrote:

People, a SCHOOL BUS hit a cyclist in broad daylight.  This is not about what anyone should be wearing but rather about the fact that driving entitlement is reaching epidemic proportions here in Lincoln and all across the country.

Much like gun-violence, there is plenty of outrage and lots of thoughts and prayers and high-vis clothing suggestions but until we are willing to confront the fact that traffic safety is a uniquely American problem and a result of high vehicle speeds, larger cars, and road structure deficiencies, nothing will change.


The US underperformance in road safety is especially dramatic: 11.4 Americans per 100,000 died in crashes in 2020, a number that dwarfs countries including Spain (2.9), Israel (3.3) and New Zealand (6.3). And unlike most developed nations, US roadways have grown more deadly during the last two decades (including during the pandemic), especially for those outside of cars. Last year saw the most pedestrians killed in the US in 40 years, and deaths among those biking rose 44% from 2010 to 2020.

On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 2:01 PM Laura Koller <[email protected]> wrote:
I’m also a long time road cyclist, and I feel much more visible since I’ve added front (white) and rear (red) blinkers to my bike. Passing cars seem to give me much wider berth. It’s an extra step but seems very worthwhile. I also wear a day-glo green helmet. Visibility really does make a difference, imo. 

Laura

On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 1:54 PM V Saleme <[email protected]> wrote:
As a cyclist who resides in this town and accrues on average 250 miles a week between trails and the road, I believe it’s important to devise a way of getting out of this echo chamber and speak to the broader group of people who, let’s face it, use this town as a cut through. They are the problem, not the local residents. 

If I had to hazard to guess, they’re (non Lincoln residents) not on Lincoln Talk and as they execute twice the speed limit minimally, on Tower Rd., Deerhaven Rd., Sandy Pond Road, Lincoln Road, Bedford Road (where there’s an actual sign that states “cyclists may use entire lane” if you can believe it) thus head nodding amongst ourselves is not going to be effective. 

Vic

On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 1:41 PM John Mendelson <[email protected]> wrote:
And I would strongly urge drivers to slow down, obey the law, and pay attention to what is in front of them at all times when behind the wheel of a large, powerful object capable of inflicting terrible injuries to walkers, cyclists, and other drivers.

There is no clear consensus that high-visibility clothing makes a difference for pedestrian nor cyclist safety so let's please avoid any potential victim-blaming.  

See:


and


Thanks!

John

On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 1:21 PM Sara Mattes <[email protected]> wrote:
I would strongly urge all walkers and bikers to wear some sort of neon/ reflective safety vest.
They are lightweight and cheap and they really help drivers see us.

Dark clothing, esp at dusk or in mottled shade, makes us disappear.
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Sara Mattes




On Aug 31, 2023, at 12:47 PM, Lynne Smith <[email protected]> wrote:

Fascinating article! As a helmet and goggle wearing cyclist, I’m now going to be extra careful since some drivers might not recognize me as human!

Lynne Smith
5 Tabor Hill Road
Lincoln, MA 01773
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On 31 Aug 2023, at 11:24 a.m., Ginger Reiner <[email protected]> wrote:


Julianne,

That was me. I actually was hit by the school van in the interaction although I stayed upright and am not hurt. Thanks for reaching out and I’d love a witness statement.

To the rest of LincolnTalk, I write this as a reply-all because people on bikes are sometimes viewed as “less human” or seen as being “not from Lincoln” (which shouldn’t matter), and I hope that attaching my name to Julianne’s story might help to counteract both of those impressions.


Ginger 

On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 8:59 AM jsug--- via Lincoln <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi There,

If you are the cyclist who was nearly hit by the school van on Lincoln Road this morning just before 8 am, and you were hoping to report this, I wanted to let you know I would be happy to provide witness statement if needed. 

Best,
Julianne
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