Hi Kerry,

If I recall correctly the use of stub projectors was allowed some time
ago by Macromedia. Off course for any serious cross-platform programming
having both versions is highly recommended, but I guess that for a one
time project having to pay for a full version is quite expensive.

I wouldn't dream of doing what I suggested (actually I didn't even plan
to do it to start with) because if I get into Mac programming I'd really
like to be able to program, debug, test on authoring, etc... My comment
was more geared at the fact that I disagree with Macromedia stand on
this point.

Probably my main concern is that (with totally valid reasons) a copy of
Director is extremely cheaper to any US or UK based programmer than it
is to some of us working on less economically developed countries. For
instance (not a real world situation) if an average lingo programmer in
the US makes $4000 in the US, the same programmer, with the same set of
skills, would earn $1500 where I live. If Macromedia's objective was to
be fair, a copy of Director here would cost $400 which IMO is much more
reasonable. In reality a copy of Director, through the authorized
Macromedia dealer here is a bit more than what it costs in the US. I
know this is very difficult to accomplish because then all American
programmers would purchase the program where it is cheaper unbalancing
the market once again.

Having a bundle with both platform versions is a reasonable suggestion
and I think it would benefit Macromedia. But if you are already paying a
hefty lump of money for one platform, would it be too much to ask that
included in that price would be a set of standard projectors for the
other platform?

The last thing I want is to be perceived as a cheap guy that's willing
to make all twists and turns to avoid a legal sanction by Macromedia to
save some bucks. What really makes me mad is Macromedia way of handling
their PR with their own customers regarding this issue. That's all :)

I am still wondering if what I suggested (putting aside all moral
concerns) is still doable. From previous discussions I have concluded
that the line is very fine on this subject and Macromedia says that
their interpretation is that the use of stub projectors if you don't own
a license for that platform is illegal. Still if what I think could be a
work around, is actually legal, I guess Macromedia should revaluate
their stance on this point.

Cordially,

Jorge

-----Original Message-----
> it seems pretty stupid to me to spend $1200 to be able to make a
> projector.
> 
Why does that seem stupid? You're not paying $1200 to make a
projector--you're paying $1200 to create a product for a new platform.

I think you would find the same thing with other cross-platform
environments. You would have to buy separate copies of Code Warrior, for
example, for Windows and Mac. IMHO, it's reasonable for Macromedia to
charge for a program that will allow you to increase your sales.

> So what would happen if I "buy" a copy of Dir8.5 for Mac from a
> friend, make the stub
> projector and then sell it back to him?
> 
> Have I lost it completely? Am I going to jail if I do that?
> 
I doubt you're going to jail, but it sounds an awful lot like a lawyer
looking for a technicality to get the client off.

It is as much an ethical and moral question as a legal one, IMHO. To me,
it smells like piracy, however it's dressed up. (I'm not accusing you of
being a pirate, Jorge--just commenting on the larger issue).

I've posted rants about this before, so I won't repeat myself too much.
I just think that if you're going to make money off of a tool, you
should pay for it.

Having said that, it would be really nice if Macromedia were to bundle
the PC and Mac versions for a discounted price. I wonder if it would
increase their sales? I bet there are a lot of people out there who
develop cross-platform who don't own legal versions of both, simply
because it costs too much.

Cordially,

Kerry Thompson


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