A possible hardware fix would be a duct tape job on the TOD Enable switch -- or maybe 
the
CE could by-pass the switch.  I doubt there's much, if any, current draw when the 
switch
is closed.

Any IBM hardware folks care to commment?

George Haeh
416-465-2292
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis G. Wicks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: VM and Linux time of day


> Greetings;
>
> I think this subject has gone around several times already.
>
> The VM time server is only a solution as long as you are isolated
> from the Rest Of the World. When you start talking to systems outside
> your LAN you really should be synching all of your system clocks
> to UTC (See: http://www.time.gov/about.html ) This makes it much easier
> to troubleshoot related events. From experience, as little as 9 seconds
> difference in time makes troubleshooting difficult, 90 secs can make it
> impossible!
>
> I think this is a necessary addition to the S/390; the ability to set the
> system clock programatically without having to IPL and not having to
> manually
> enable the operation. I know there are clever ways to do this by
> manipulating
> the time zone in VM but that really isn't a practical solution. The time
> needs
> to be checked frequently and adjusted as needed so all systems are as close
> to
> being on the same tick as possible. The software for doing this has been
> available for PCs and other HW for quite some time and could probably be
> quickly
> ported to z/VM and z/OS if the mechanical problem were out of the way.
>
> Good Luck!
> Dennis
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Aria Bamdad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 01/14/2002 08:07:24 AM
>
> Please respond to Linux on 390 Port <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> cc:    (bcc: Dennis Wicks/infosvcs/CDG)
> Subject:  Re: VM and Linux time of day
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, 11 Jan 2002 17:02:16 -0600 Dennis G. Wicks said:
> >Greetings;
> >
> >Linux will set its clock like any well behaved system. If you can and
> >want to you can set up the usual ntp (Network Time Protocol) functions
> >and synchronize your linux machines time to the rest of the world. This
> >requires internet access, which is where the "can" comes in. Or you can
> >get the time from a time server on your lan.
> >
> >Unfortunately, VM and OS can't do this yet. Unless something has been
> >quietly added in z/VM. I think there is a time server available, but I
> >haven't investigated it.
> >
>
> There is a time server available for VM.  It is free to download at the
> VM web site www.vm.ibm.com under the download directory.   I have been
> using it to set the time on other systems at my organization and it works
> well.
>
> Aria
>
>
>
>
> >As for the difference between your VM host and the linux guest there are
> >many possibilities. Choose whether to synchronize to VM or to ROW,
> >use a date command to set your linux clock and be happy! ;-)
> >
> >Good Luck!
> >Dennis
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Jean Bedard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 01/11/2002 03:16:46 PM
> >
> >Please respond to Linux on 390 Port <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >cc:    (bcc: Dennis Wicks/infosvcs/CDG)
> >Subject:  VM and Linux time of day
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Hi,
> >
> >I'm a bit confused here. I thought Linux (SuSE Linux in this case) took
> the
> >date and time from VM (or from the hardware), but now I realize that on my
> >zVM 4.2 system, CP QUERY TIME is currently about 90 seconds ahead of the
> >results of the Linux "date" command. How can it be?
> >--
> >* Jean Bedard
> >* VM System Manager             S.I.T., Universite Laval
> >* [EMAIL PROTECTED]     (418) 656-2131 ext. 4014

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