Neat History.... I worked at IBM 1983-8 and was a manager in the area
that ran PCSHARE and VMSHARE and PCTOOLS. It was an incredible
foundary of experience and ideas. Somewhere I still have some 1.2meg
floppies of some of the forum discussions. QUALITY was a great one.
And the sad day when the Challenger crashed... some of the IBMers saw
it from their back yard. I wrote one of the VM/CMS speed up tools that
decreased resource utilization by an amazing amount... 147 lines of
rexx, 1500 lines of assembler... and a cloud of dust.

Glad to hear it has found a happy home.

john alvord

On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 08:42:24 -0400, Coffin Michael C
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Hi Dave,
>
>That's funny!  When I left IBM in 1999 they were aggressively moving the
>internal Forums to Bloatus Notes.  It was a HORRIBLE implementation (like
>all of the conversions from CMS to Bloatus Notes) and people just plain
>stopped using the internal Forums (which were, up until then when running on
>CMS, a treasure-trove of great information).
>
>This was during the era when IBM had dictated that ALL applications will be
>migrated to Bloatus Notes (whether it made any sense or note).  I was a key
>programmer for a suite of tools that ran on VM/CMS and we were constantly
>being ordered to migrate to Bloatus Notes.  This was during the late 1990's,
>and as of this writing these applications still run (perfectly!) on VM/CMS.
>Maybe IBM has given up on forcing everything into Notes and is considering
>"more appropriate platforms"!  :)
>
>Thanks for sharing that, I got a real kick out of it!
>
>Michael Coffin, VM Systems Programmer
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>1111 Constitution Avenue, N.W.
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>
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>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dave Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 8:17 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: IBM Moves Key Applications To Linux
>
>
>[Cross posted to Linux390 and VMESA-L lists].
>
>IBM released the following press release late yesterday afternoon. I think
>the community here might find it of interest:
>http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/020814/045483.htm
>
>The paragraph that I especially noticed, having used IBM customer (external)
>forums for years now, is:
>
>Internal IBM Forums
>
>IBM runs its internal community collaboration systems using Linux on VM on
>an IBM eServer zSeries to provide service to more than 300,000 IBM employees
>worldwide. Collaboration is provided using forums, or newsgroups, to allow
>IBM employees worldwide to discuss hundreds of different technical and
>business topics. These forums provide a way to host written discussions on
>any relevant topic, and new content is appended to each forum as users
>contribute. The forums are open to all IBM employees across the company. The
>mainframe running Linux is integrated into IBM's single Intranet solution
>called w3.ibm.com. This award-winning portal for IBM employees has over 17
>million hits per day. The forums have over 15,000 new posts every month and
>provide a valuable source of information on 800 different topics.
>
>Dave Jones
>http://www.sinenomine.net/
>Houston, TX
>281.578.7544 (voice)

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