"db" wrote: > My exact words were "for a goodly sum." No value judgement there; noting > that it costs money. If you want to read it as a slight on Flex, then go > ahead. I don't see it that way, and I don't see the point in beating that > carrion any longer. Do some reading in Ecclesiastes for my view on most > software tools.
Knowing you and your work, I don't believe any slight was intended, and no slight was taken. I was merely responding to the incompleteness of the answer. Read Ecclesiastes for my view on providing answers to those seeking solutions. > > I suggest that you start an effort of encouraging these small developers > that aren't serviced by > > the $13,000 offering or by the free LCDS to declare themselves to IBM > > Why would I encourage pestering an already overworked group in IBM to accept > a ton of paperwork from people that can't actually perform the development > they're applying to do? Because the PWD management define the requirements for driving a case internally within IBM. What I suggest here is no different than what I tell others who want, for instance, parallel sysplex or crypto support for the PWD. Make the need known to PWD management. The best contact there is Frank Yolton whose email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Which would you rather see -- some IBM > revenue for people legitimately wanting to do this, or none at all via the > current underground trade in pirate copies of the ADCDs? What you paint is a false dilemma. One merely needs to correspond with those whose posts on Hercules indicate z/VM use, from which one can determine that the vast majority trade illegitimately for their own pecuniary purposes. Just today the board is active with a computer services guy trying to get z/VM networking up under Hercules. I feel nothing for such companies that they should spend a few bucks with IBM to enable their team for purveying the services they provide, if thats how IBM chooses to relate. (eg. similar to the for-charge courses that IBM requires it reseller personnel to take) The answer is NOT to declare whats reasonable as a charge and steal it if it IBM doesn't offer it at that price. This is not the same calculus as mp3 downloads as often in this case the "end user" is trying to make a buck off the stolen copy. If we are talking about developers, the answer is to pursuade the PWD management that there may be benefit in a z/VM offering tailored (and priced) for use in Linux development. Even so, that won't stop what I see as the majority of the theivery as commercial (or open) development use seems not the purloiner's intention. > So, how do you want to start the > effort? Do you have data you're willing to share to help convince IBM? How > do we move this forward in a productive way? In my next meetings with the PWD guys I will query if they are interested in modifying their requirements to facilitate a lower-cost z/VM AD-CD offering for use by declared Linux developers. PDW
