If we were talking about a new technology, that might be relevant. Mark Post
-----Original Message----- From: Fargusson.Alan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 3:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Down time On the other hand, when cars were a new technology they were not reliable or safe. The Model T Ford was a very popular car, yet was know to flip over if you turned the steering wheel hard, and the had crank engine caused many broken arms. -----Original Message----- From: Post, Mark K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 8:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Down time In my company, the UNIX/Linux systems are held to a very similar standard, because they can be. The Windows systems are not, because they cannot live up to it. As time goes on, and Windows gets better (they are making some progress, they just have a ways to go), the standard for them will be raised as well. In most cases, it's a matter of what people are willing to accept, and what they're used to getting. The joke that compares cars to (Wintel) computers is very true in that we'd never accept that sort of unreliability from car manufacturers. As more and more people become aware that there are alternatives that are more reliable, expectations will increase. Whether Microsoft can live up to them remains to be seen. As technicians, our role is to raise these questions when necessary, and use the information we have to make the business case that money, people time, system availability, etc., are being wasted/lost without good reason. In many cases, that may be doomed to failure from the beginning, but it's something I need to do so that I can say I've done _my_ job. Whether anyone else is willing to listen is something I have no control over. Mark Post -----Original Message----- From: Abruzzese, Pat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 10:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Down time I know this is off the board but I would like to know why is the "mainframe's" down time limited when the "client/servers" seem to going down whenever. In the middle of the morning, afternoon or night unscheduled. My VM/ESA 2.4.0 was IPL'ed 1/09/2002 and have been up since. I will take it down this Sunday to put Z/VM 4.3.0 in service. Why are there two sets of standards??? vr, P. Abruzzese
