I think you are both correct.  In Stallman's world a user is usually a
programmer.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fargusson.Alan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 11:06 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Anyone Nagios?
>
>
> Jay, you didn't say why you think that RMS is not for freedom for =
> programmers.  Am I correct in assuming that you think
> programmers want =
> to keep their source code secret?
>
> It this is the case, I think you are wrong.  In my experience
> it is the =
> management of corporations that want to keep the source code secret, =
> while the programmers want to give it away.
>
> If you read the book "Free as in freedom" you will see that RMS has =
> taken such a hard line on the GPL is that he wants
> programmers to have =
> freedom.  To RMS this means that no software should be secret.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jay Maynard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 6:06 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Anyone Nagios?
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 08:40:53PM -0800, Ranga Nathan wrote:
> > Free as in 'Freedom' or 'Free beer'. The former is more
> important for =
> me!
>
> Careful about raising this argument...it marks you as a
> Stallmanite, and
> there are lots of us who think he's an unmitigated kook. In
> particular,
> Stallamn believes in freedom for users, but not programmers.
>

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