Sorry, missed your reply...

So far, it seems to be quite nice.  I'm still kind of running it through its
paces (and learning it myself), so I don't have any solid opinions yet.

We are actually using it to back up to Storagetek silos with the HSC
software running over on z/OS 1.4.  BEB comes with a little "Tape Server"
that runs as an STC and interfaces with your tape management software to
maintain the tapes and such.

I'm still a little fuzzy on the best way to setup BEB down on Linux.  It
also seems to take a fair amount of storage (~300MB) which I hope to whittle
down somewhat.

I do like their web/java interface.  While Upstream also has a Java
interface, BEB's seems a little cleaner (and better laid out).

Leland

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Coffin Michael C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 6:23 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Question on Backups
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>
> "So, we ripped them out and bought CA's Brightstor Enterprise Backup."
>
> I'm very interested in hearing your impressions of Brightstor
> on Linux/390.
> I've yet to hear from anyone using this product, and haven't
> had a chance to
> look at it myself yet - but it looks like it may be another
> "Best of Breed"
> product.
>
> Are you interfacing it to VM:Backup and VM:Tape on a VM host?
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lucius, Leland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 11:16 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Question on Backups
>
>
> > 2) I believe "Upstream S/390 Linux" (by Innovation Data
> > Processing) can do the above, does anyone currently use
> this product,
> > any "war stories" you'd be willing to relate?
> >
> We ran Upstream on L/390 for a while (until we found out we weren't
> licensed).  We still use Upstream to backup our Windows servers to STK
> silos.  We mistakenly assumed we could put an agent on our
> Linux guests just
> like we could for our Windows boxen.  Found out that there is
> a different
> licensing scheme for the agents on L/390.  So, we ripped them
> out and bought
> CA's Brightstor Enterprise Bac kup.
>
> The 2 "issues" I had with Upstream on L/390 was that you
> couldn't run it
> from inetd and it didn't support ACLs.
>
> The first issue was only minor and really just me being too
> picky, but since
> the agent needing to run all the time, any storage used by it would be
> wasted.  Running from inetd would have been great, but
> Innovation told me
> there was no plans for that.
>
> The second issue was a bit more of a concern (and the one
> that brought up
> the licensing issues).  We were backing up our Samba servers
> with Upstream
> and found out (the hard way) that Upstream doesn't backup the ACLs
> associated with the files/directories.  Unfortunately, I had
> missed the one
> line in the manual that says it didn't do ACLs.
>
> Anyway, we're depending on our FDR full volume backups right
> now until we
> get EB installed across the board.  So far, I'm pretty
> pleases with the
> performance and UI...
>
> Leland
>
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