Unfortunately, zAAP doesnt help us.  IBM came out with it three months after we bought 
our z800, and it only works on a z890 or z990, so we're not likely to see any benefits 
from that for a few years.

"An Optimist is just a pessimist with no job experience."  - Scott Adams
Gordon W. Wolfe, Ph.D. Boeing Enterprise Servers 425-865-5940

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> From:         Ledbetter, Scott E
> Reply To:     Linux on 390 Port
> Sent:         Friday, June 18, 2004 11:25 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      Re: J2EE performance?
> 
> I think IBM recognizes that JAVA is a bit of a hog on zSeries, which is why
> they have come out with the zAAP features, which are basically JAVA
> coprocessors for zSeries 890 and 990.
> 
> No support for Linux yet, as far as I know.  Maybe a future?
> 
> http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zaap/
> 
> Scott L.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Brandon Darbro
> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 12:11 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: J2EE performance?
> 
> 
> I've had the opportunity to play with JBOSS recently, as well as watch some
> Websphere testing on our linux guests, and I'm not very happy with the
> performance and resource utilization.
> 
> Let's see... what can I tell you about our system:
> 
> * z800
> * 2 IFL's (tested using single and dual, still slow) in LPAR
> * z/VM 4.4.0
> * guest lan networking
> * 256 meg RAM
> * 512 meg vdisk swap
> 
> Observations:
> 
> * Turning of hz_timer patch helps lower CPU utilization footprint of the
> java processes, but of course, then the system never sleeps.
> * When running a J2EE app, it takes often over a minute to finish rendering
> a page to a browser.
> * When running a J2EE app, java consumes an entire IFL of cpu if we let it.
> 
> I understand others are successfully running J2EE implimentations on
> mainframe Linux, so here are my questions:
> 
> 1.  Is J2EE a cpu resource hog for you?
> 2.  Are you running Linux under VM or right on the LPAR?
> 3.  Do you charge users for MIP usage?  If so, how does this high CPU
> utilization not eat your customer alive in billed costs? 4.  Does anyone
> have some advice on how to run J2EE services more efficiently, faster and
> easier on cpu? 5.  Which J2EE server software for mainframe Linux do you
> prefer and why? 6.  Lastly, why would you choose to run J2EE on mainframe
> Linux as apposed to some stand-alone system (Unix, Windows, Other)?
> 
> Thanks folks,
> *Brandon Darbro
> 
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