How about Xen?  IBM seems to be starting to push it as a virtualization 
technology on Intel.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> Adam Thornton
> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 3:24 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Why Zseries
> 
> 
> On Feb 10, 2005, at 1:27 PM, Doug Fairobent wrote:
> 
> > Doesn't VMware on Intel provide the same advantage as z/VM when
> > compared to
> > discrete servers?  In the case where there is no z/OS 
> system (so that
> > data
> > sharing and communicating with z/OS are moot) why use z/VM 
> instead of
> > VMware?
> >
> Sort of.
> 
> VMware has much higher overhead than z/VM, because the x86 
> architecture
> was not designed with self-virtualization in mind.  VMware cannot
> consolidate nearly as many servers onto a single frame as Linux under
> z/VM can.  VMware does not provide nearly the level of granularity in
> terms of guest performance tuning that z/VM does.  VMware's image
> management, though improving fast, is nowhere near what z/VM can do.
> 
> On the other hand, VMware is a lot cheaper and runs on much cheaper
> hardware.  One of the best uses for it is actually not consolidation,
> but isolation of an application from the vagaries of the hardware.
> Upgrading a Windows server essentially means a total reinstall, first
> of the OS, and then of any applications, because the OS is so
> ridiculously dependent on stupid things like motherboard chipset,
> flavor of northbridge, and just what variant of the Pentium 
> you've got.
>   On the other hand, if you have VMware on the box, then when you
> upgrade the hardware you just reinstall the OS and VMware (which is a
> very simple app to configure) (we'll assume VMware ESX counts as both
> the OS and VMware for this case), and then fire up your VMware
> containers (and maybe increase their memory size--Windows CAN handle
> that without a reinstall) and you've just gotten the speed benefits of
> your upgrade, without having to mess with application configuration.
> 
> Adam
> 
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