On Monday 24 July 2006 16:06, Dominic Coulombe wrote:

> in *theory* you can do live backup of machines with journaled filesystems
> (at least ext3) without any problem.
>
> Linux will repair filesystems from journal after recovering your backups.

No, that does not work, because the journal is backed up as well. The journal 
on the backup might be several minutes older that the real journal of the 
file system. So the journal replay might even destroy the file system because 
it does not reflect the current state of the disk in any way.

The only way this *might* work is to shut down all I/O on the file system 
completely (sync and remount r/o for example). But this approach has several 
downsides. (e.g. some daemons really want to write to disk from time to time 
and dont like errors during write)

I strongly second Alans and Davids statements: Unless your Linux systems *are 
completely down* at the time of backup, full volume dumps from outside the 
Linux system are more than likely to be useless and journaling does not help 
here. 


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Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best Regards

Christian Borntraeger
Linux Software Engineer zSeries Linux & Virtualization

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