> No, line mode makes sense at the boot prom level... but when a Solaris > box or HP box is booted into the OS, the console device becomes a fully > interactive terminal. Very handy for when the box's network settings > are wrong so you can't ssh into it.
Exactly. You have enough control to 'ifconfig eth0 <mumble>;route add <mumble2>' and then log in via a normal network connection to complete the repairs. > This allows you to login to the > console and use editors such as vi or emacs. What your suggesting only > adds the ability to issue control codes like a control-c, but not use > interactive TUI's. It's not enough of a gain to warrant the trouble. We're back to the assumption of what you use a console for. For me, it's only for getting the network interface temporarily configured so I can get to the box over the network. After that's done, it doesn't *matter* what the console can do -- I can do anything I want over the network (TUI, GUI, etc). > Maybe you're just more use to 3270 than I am... I really despise it. :) No, I date back to physical printing TTYs as Unix consoles -- the day we got the DECwriter 120 running at 4800 baud w/o crashing the front end on the 11/730 was a big deal for me...8-). I don't assume that console terminals will EVER be able to do intelligent editing...8-). > Current experience: Oh, the networking info on that vm is wrong. Log > into it's 3270 console... oh yeah, remember, don't type vi! Let's use > ed or ex... okay, configuration fixed... let's see if I can ping out > now. OH NO! I forgot to tell it only 1 ping! No control-c! *sigh* > Well, *if* it's pinging, I should be able to ssh in and kill the ping > process. If not... well, crap. > > Because of that, we have very few Unix admins who are authorized to use > the 3270 console. Making sharing the workload with the rest of the > admin group difficult. All of which could be implemented as PVM macros that prompted for parameters and then issued the correct commands with the correct options, with no need to ever touch the console directly. Or via CP SEND or PROP. We're just starting from different assumptions, I guess. I have no problems working on a TTY linemode console, because that's what I assume the lowest common denominator is, and I rarely use or need the setup tools. It's a PITA, but then it's only a problem long enough to get a network adapter temporarily configured and working. *Then* I do the permanent fix -- preferably from someplace warmer than the machine room and from a real VDT with cursor motion. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
