Actually, in it's original form (on 3090 or 9021, IIRC), Expanded
storage was physically different memory.  It was slower, and therefore
cheaper.  As real storage got cheaper, it was positioned as a
paging-avoidance mechanism until the OS could be enhanced to address
more real storage.

HDS used the fact that their memory was all the same, and you could move
the line between types at will, as a selling point.

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Mark Perry
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 1:42 PM
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Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Central vs Expanded Storage


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Hi Steve,
the faster option is "not to page", which is an option if you have more
real memory i.e. Central storage.

Paging *OUT* from Expanded Memory, if I understand correctly, requires
first bringing the data into Central storage so that it can then be
written to DASD.

If Expanded storage offered a better paging solution then don't you
think z/OS would have retained support for it?

Expanded storage, I believe, originated as physically separate storage
in the days before 64bit addressing. The z9 no longer has such
limitations.

Sorry I didn't want a rehash, and yes I will search the archives (a
pointer would have been nice.)

Mark

Steve Gentry wrote:
> Mark, respectfully, this has been hashed over many times, even
recently.
> Check the archives.
> Think about it,  which would it be faster to page from extended
storage,
> which is memory or a disk drive, which is going to be
> slower?    If you allocated all to real and you still had to page,
then
> you'd by pass the extended storage and go straight to dasd.
> There are others here who can go into far more technical details about
the
> "internals" of VM and why it likes extended storage.
> I think the consensus from the group and even IBM is to define some
> extended storage.
> Hope this helps a little.
> Regards,
> Steve G

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