Shawn Wells wrote:
Honestly, this may be more of a "sendmail vs postfix" issue than "SLES
vs RHEL." But I am glad the process was easy.
Not really. I used to use sendmail (OS/2 and Linux). I now choose to use
postfix, though I can take care of sendmail if needs be.
Without the m4 macros, postfix is way easier to configure. It's easy to
maintain, and there's no need to put things that administrators need
care about in strange places.
I accept use of files in /etc/default (Debian) and /etc/sysconfig to set
commandline options for daemons, with some reluctance.
I don't have a running *suse* system atm to see what Patrick is
complaining about, but I don't see why anything relevant to relays
should be in /etc/sysconfig/
In general, SuSE is a more strongly GUI'ish system, and Redhat is
heavily command line, with individual GUI tools if you happen to know
how to find them.
Out of curiosity, where do you (and ultimately, everyone else on the
list) turn to for this information? Are you familiar with Red Hat's
Knowledge Base (http://kbase.redhat.com) and Novell's support center
(http://www.novell.com/support/microsites/microsite.do)?
I've been criticising Red Hat's approach to configuration tools for
years. After trying out SUSE, I discovered YAST addresses one of my
concerns, the ease of finding and using configuration tools.
I was never a fan of Linuxconf, and attacked it with severe prejudice
after giving it a trial. but the basic idea is fine.
Ditto with webmin, a sound idea, but I don't really like the implementation.
On the other hand, something that's been a big adjustment - SELinux in
redhat 5. It seems like none of the vendors out there support running
under SELinux. For example, for both our monitoring product and backup
solution I've had to craft custom SELinux policy exceptions.
I don't really blame Redhat for this, but I'm pissed as all h*** at the
vendors. Follow me on this as I descend into ranting for the rest of
this post, or perhaps not, to preserve your sanity :-)
I'm pretty keen on hearing more about this. While switching your system
into Strict or MLS mode _will unquestionably break things_, leaving it
in the stock Targeted mode shouldn't be to much of a hassle. What apps
did you run into problems with?
I'm not a Zed user, but I do manage a few Linux systems. On one, I like
to symlink into an ISO image to get it mounted view autofs.
The idea was to loop-mount the ISO image when I want to do an http install.
Here is one example line from my /etc/auto.misc:
fc5 -fstype=iso9660,ro,nosuid,nodev,noexec,loop
:/var/local/mirrors/linux/Fedora/5/i386/ISO/FC-5-i386-DVD.iso
I serve from a directory under /var/local/mirrors, and it had been my
practice to symlink the install tree like this:
/var/local/mirrors/linux/CentOS/5.1/os/i386 -> /misc/C5
Unfortunately, I've not been able ti divine the magic incantation to get
it mounted and accessible to Apache.
The system's adequately isolated from the ungodly, but the only way I
have to make this work is to turn selinux off, and this irks.
The amount of packages installed is completely customizable. Don't
install cups if you don't need it.
I think the wish it to install an absolute minimum of packages. People
have been asking for this for years.
The discussions around yum-updated have been long internally to RHT. I
don't know what the history is there, other than I'm in no position to
change it. And I do agree with you on that point, especially for
enterprise servers.
My wife is a mere mortal Fedora user. She should not be getting nagged
about updates. If something breaks (and Fedora is well able to bork a
system), she's competely incapable of fixing it.
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