Well I got through the RSU1601 upgrade.  Thanks for everyone's help.  I don't 
know why I was doing a logoff since I "normally" would do a disc.  Since I had 
deleted the ICHRCX02 exit(per cookbook), I had to go to the RACF programmers 
guide to upgrade to a new level of the the user mod related to RPIBLLPA and 
include the ptf.  Without doing this, I could not get racmaint started since it 
could not find the LPA and went into a loop.  There was also an info apar where 
I had to delete ICHPWX11 AUXRPI which was related to the ptf (UV61271).  It is 
becoming a bit more involved than the old "service all Sxxxxxxx" and 
"put2prod". 

Chris Will
Systems Software
(313) 549-9729 Cell
cw...@bcbsm.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Scott 
Rohling
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 1:40 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Instructions for z/VM RSU1601 are not working in regards to RACF

I should have said after logging on to OPERATOR --  issue SET SYSOPER
OPERATOR before the #CP DISC.   It hopefully got set to SYSOPER itself  but
this makes sure.

To explain -- if OPERATOR is logged off - the next lucky guest with the right 
level of CP classes (A,B, etc) gets set to SYSOPER and now
essentially can only run CP commands.    Many shops run something regularly
to check of OPERATOR is down or SYSOPER is not set to OPERATOR and correct
it.       Bottom line:   Keep OPERATOR logged on at all times - only use
#CP DISC to end the terminal session.   It is important that OPERATOR is
available to receive system messages and keep a console log...

Scott Rohling

On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 10:34 AM, Scott Rohling <scott.rohl...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I suspect you have been made OPERATOR because OPERATOR is logged off.
> Enter  QUERY SYSOPER to see....
>
> If it is RACMAINT then:
>
> - logoff RACMAINT
> - Logon OPERATOR and then #CP DISC to leave it running
> - Logon to RACMAINT as you did before
>
> Scott Rohling
>
> On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 10:22 AM, Will, Chris <cw...@bcbsm.com> wrote:
>
>> Here is what I am doing.  First force out RACFVM.
>>
>> 13:17:53 FORCE RACFVM
>> RACFVM  : CONNECT= 00:06:45 VIRTCPU= 000:00.08 TOTCPU= 000:00.10 
>> RACFVM  : LOGOFF AT 13:17:53 EDT MONDAY 05/02/16 BY OPERATOR
>> 13:17:53 USER DSC   LOGOFF AS  RACFVM   USERS = 32    FORCED BY OPERATOR
>> 13:17:53 HCPRPI036E CP/RACF communication path broken to RACFVM
>> RACFVM  : RDR FILE 0036 SENT FROM RACFVM   CON WAS 0036 RECS 0049 CPY
>> 001 T NOH
>> OLD NOKEEP
>>
>> Next logon to RACMAINT
>>
>> 13:19:16 IPL 190
>> z/VM V6.3.0    2015-11-02 11:41
>>
>> DMSACP723I D (192) R/O
>> DMSACP723I B (305) R/O
>> DMSACP723I T (190) R/O
>> DMSACP725I 190 also = S disk
>> Ready; T=0.01/0.01 13:19:17
>> 13:20:35 RACFCONV
>> 13:20:35 HCPCMD001E Unknown CP command: RACFCONV
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris Will
>> Systems Software
>> (313) 549-9729 Cell
>> cw...@bcbsm.com
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of 
>> Scott Rohling
>> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 1:14 PM
>> To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
>> Subject: Re: Instructions for z/VM RSU1601 are not working in regards 
>> to RACF
>>
>> Can you show the lines from the console when you do the 'IPL 190' ?   It
>> almost sounds like you are still in CP --   after the IPL 190  (and
>> hitting
>> ENTER when you see VM READ) you should see some messages like this:
>>
>> i 190
>> z/VM V6.3.0    2016-03-20 17:29
>>
>> DMSACP723I D (192) R/O
>> DMSACP723I B (305) R/O
>> DMSACP723I T (190) R/O
>> DMSACP725I 190 also = S disk
>> Ready; T=0.01/0.01 13:13:32
>>
>> RACFCONV EXEC is on the B disk (305)....
>>
>> Scott Rohling
>>
>> On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Will, Chris <cw...@bcbsm.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I got through the service all portion of the upgrade and am now 
>> > trying to figure out the RACFCONV instructions from VM65719.  It 
>> > says to run the following commands but I keep getting a CP UNKNOWN 
>> > command after the RACFCONV command (or any other cms command).  Is this 
>> > correct?
>> >
>> > The RACF database templates have been updated as part of this APAR.
>> > Use the RACFCONV utility on the RACMAINT userid to update the 
>> > templates for both the primary and the backup RACF database.  If 
>> > you running a 1-4 member SSI system, follow these
>> > instructions:
>> > 1. For 1-4 member SSI, verify the CP directory entry for the
>> >    RACMAINT userid has:
>> >    LINK RACFVM 200 200 MW
>> >    LINK RACFVM 300 300 MW
>> > 2. SERVICE RACF from MAINT630 on only one SSI member.
>> > 3. FORCE RACFVM from Operator from each SSI member.
>> > 4. LOGON RACMAINT from Operator on one SSI member and run the <<how 
>> > can you "logon" from operator??
>> >    RACFCONV utility as follows:
>> >    IPL 190
>> >    RACFCONV <<here is where I get the CP UNKNOWN error
>> >    enter
>> >    200
>> >    yes
>> >
>> >    RACFCONV
>> >    enter
>> >    300
>> >    yes
>> >
>> >    IPL 490
>> >    RACSTART
>> >    #cp disc
>> >
>> >
>> > Chris Will
>> > Systems Software
>> > (313) 549-9729 Cell
>> > cw...@bcbsm.com
>> >
>> >
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