All right, I recall working w/ the "real" 3215 on a 370/145 (I spent some
time as an "operator", so I know enough of my way around the 360 and 370
era tape drives) though I recall dealing w/ a 1052.

One operator I worked with had the S/360 Operator's Guide (with the red
cover) which he wrote "Quotations of Ex-Chairman Watson" on the cover
(smirks).

Mind you, I spent a lot of time working DECsystem10s, TSS-8...  using
Teletypes (35, and, later, 33s and even a 37).

-soup

On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Alan Altmark <[email protected]>
wrote:

> On Friday, 10/20/2017 at 12:38 GMT, Dimitri John Ledkov <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>  I have proposed upstream systemd to not use color by default on z/VM,
> > as it seems that the most recent HMC does strips escape codes
> > correctly in the operating systems messages window. The HMC ascii
> > terminal displays everything correct, and so does QEMU/KVM terminals.
> > So far I believe it's just z/VM that fails to render dmsg [ ] and
> > strip escape codes.
>
> The console device emulated by z/VM is a 1970-era IBM 3215.  At the end of
> the day, it's a typewriter.  It doesn't understand VTxxx-style escape
> codes.  If you want to be able to use colors, then use CP TERMINAL CONMODE
> 3270 and have Linux use its 3270 console support.
>
> It makes me wonder, though, why Linux is letting escape sequences into the
> 3215 data stream in the first place.  If you had an ASCII console that
> didn't support those ESC sequences, would Linux allow them through?  I
> kind of thought that's what term=dumb was for.  And that's what you should
> get by default for a 3215.  IMNSHO, of course.
>
> Alan Altmark
>
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> IBM Systems Lab Services
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