"You know, it is at times like these, when having to deal with systemd
instead of /etc/inittab, that I really wish I had listened to my mother
when I was young!"

"Why?  What did she tell you?"

"I don't know!  I didn't _listen_!"

(laughs maniacally having inserted an HHGTTG meme into this stream)

All right, I tend to be leery of "hidden" (non-flat-text) configurations;
It reminds me a lot of the M$ "registry" which requires special tools to
manage.

In the "good old days" (v7 and even System III) /etc/termcap, /etc/printcap
and /etc/inittab were places you went to to configure various thingies.
With SysV, howsomever, the transition to terminfo happened ...  which threw
me for a loop, at first, and eventually adapted to as a developer.

While *BSD had gone more-or-less away from /etc/inittab, you had _other_
tools to deal with terminal support.  Nowadays I miss the transparency of
these kinds of configuration files...

Look, there are reasons to progress towards the less transparent forms of
these files (yeah, yeah, I remember when the encrypted password was removed
from /etc/passwd and relegated to /etc/shadow... along with a bunch of
other "cool" settings...  and, frankly, I could accept the rationale.
(Admittedly, AIX's version of the password file was WEIRD, but, then, AIX
is short for "AIn't uniX".)

Mind you, the first culture shock, vis a vis linux, was there was no
"character" device for disk drives, so you could not avoid OS's block
device management.

(shrugs)

Admittedly, I would have preferred "progress" to NOT have driven a bypass
through the management of my computer system's OS, but, hey, adapt,
improvise and automate.

-soup

On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Hendrik Brueckner <
[email protected]> wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 07:55:41AM -0600, Mark Post wrote:
> > >>> On 10/20/2017 at 08:38 AM, Dimitri John Ledkov <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > -snip-
> > > Why do you want to use TERM=dumb instead of Linux?
> >
> > Because, as you know, the uninterpreted escape sequences makes it very
> difficult to pick out the real information on the screen.
> >
>
> Just an idea to try out: systemd creates console and getty service unit
> instances for the terminals.  You can try to use systemctl edit and change
> the TERM environment variables for s390 terminal devices to dumb.  The
> service
> unit starts agetty and specifies the TERM as part of the command line.
>
> With systemctl edit you simply create an overwrite of the service unit and
> the change (or its full version) is then stored in /etc/systemd.
>
> Hope that hint helps a bit.
>
> Thanks and kind regards,
>   Hendrik
>
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 somewhere, there is meat in the loop." - me

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