On Thu, 24 May 2018, Rick Troth wrote:

> Explain to me how a KERNEL update relates to a finger-pointing fest
> among three user-space packages and the users?
>
> I DO use XFS on some systems. I prolly fall into the fourth group, but
> was already pointing my digits at that second bullet.

The kernel needs to be reached, and at shutdown, left

Dracut, and early on, systemd acting as 'init' need to
transition out of an initrd into a (periodically updated)
kernel, and mount filesytems

At shutdown / reboot, filesystems need to be synced
and 'cleanly' umounted

XFS does not 'sync' as others do, and Dracut but
'plymouth' assert that it does to systemd (which does the
umounts ...)  So arbitrary FS may be left marked 'dirty' and
in need of recovery

But the new kernel does not have all the tools it needs to get
there

Read the (horrifying as to denials of accountability, and a
lack of 'taking ownership' and fixing stuff) thread

> Here is a trailhead to read back and forth from:
>        http://tinyurl.com/y7d2a4he

As to Alan's later question, it was over on the Fedoraproject
'side of the house' [where breaking stuff is considered a
feature], and the RHEL 7.5 release notes indicate an intent to
no longer seek to 'mainstream' XFS going forward

-- Russ herrold

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