Rob,
> We could argue that a server can do without,
Yeah, maybe z/VM should deprecate XEDIT and HELP in v8 and have people use
something more modern (hehe).
-Mike
On Sun, Jun 9, 2019 at 7:56 AM Rob van der Heij <[email protected]> wrote:
> We could argue that a server can do without, and I’ve always complained the
> minimal was too much. The container stuff likely focus them. It may be too
> minimal for manual sysadmin work. I think it lacks sudo as well.
> And I hate they put ifconfig cs in nettools-very-much-deprecated in some
> other repository.
>
> Rob
>
> On Sun, 9 Jun 2019 at 13:48, Michael MacIsaac <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I get my hands on a minimal SLES 15 for the first time. I try to edit a
> > file:
> >
> > # *vi foo*
> > -bash: vi: command not found
> > # *vim foo*
> > -bash: vim: command not found
> >
> > HUH? A UNIX with no vi? NEVER seen that before.
> >
> > So I install it:
> >
> > # *zypper install -y vim*
> > ...
> >
> >
> > Now I need to check a flag:
> >
> > #* man vim *
> > -bash: man: command not found
> >
> >
> > So I try to install man:
> >
> > # *zypper install -y man*
> > ...
> > No provider of 'man' found.
> >
> >
> > HUH? A UNIX with no man pages at all? NEVER seen that before either.
> > Hopefully there's another way to install man.
> >
> > So I try to get help another way:
> >
> > # *info vim*
> > info: No menu item 'vim' in node '(dir)Top'
> > # *help vim*
> > -bash: help: no help topics match `vim'. Try `help help' or `man -k vim'
> > or `info vim'.
> >
> >
> > No 'info', no 'help' (which suggests to use man or info - hehe)
> >
> > Am I just spoiled with the backward compatibility baked into the
> mainframe?
> >
> > --
> > -Mike MacIsaac
> >
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