Oh sure, we can do online help away and direct to kc of just the global home page where someone flashes “are you considering a purchase”
Rob (biting his tongue) On Sun, 9 Jun 2019 at 14:13, Michael MacIsaac <[email protected]> wrote: > Rob, > > > We could argue that a server can do without, > Yeah, maybe z/VM should deprecate XEDIT and HELP in v8 and have people use > something more modern (hehe). > > -Mike > > On Sun, Jun 9, 2019 at 7:56 AM Rob van der Heij <[email protected]> wrote: > > > We could argue that a server can do without, and I’ve always complained > the > > minimal was too much. The container stuff likely focus them. It may be > too > > minimal for manual sysadmin work. I think it lacks sudo as well. > > And I hate they put ifconfig cs in nettools-very-much-deprecated in some > > other repository. > > > > Rob > > > > On Sun, 9 Jun 2019 at 13:48, Michael MacIsaac <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I get my hands on a minimal SLES 15 for the first time. I try to edit > a > > > file: > > > > > > # *vi foo* > > > -bash: vi: command not found > > > # *vim foo* > > > -bash: vim: command not found > > > > > > HUH? A UNIX with no vi? NEVER seen that before. > > > > > > So I install it: > > > > > > # *zypper install -y vim* > > > ... > > > > > > > > > Now I need to check a flag: > > > > > > #* man vim * > > > -bash: man: command not found > > > > > > > > > So I try to install man: > > > > > > # *zypper install -y man* > > > ... > > > No provider of 'man' found. > > > > > > > > > HUH? A UNIX with no man pages at all? NEVER seen that before either. > > > Hopefully there's another way to install man. > > > > > > So I try to get help another way: > > > > > > # *info vim* > > > info: No menu item 'vim' in node '(dir)Top' > > > # *help vim* > > > -bash: help: no help topics match `vim'. Try `help help' or `man -k > vim' > > > or `info vim'. > > > > > > > > > No 'info', no 'help' (which suggests to use man or info - hehe) > > > > > > Am I just spoiled with the backward compatibility baked into the > > mainframe? > > > > > > -- > > > -Mike MacIsaac > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 > or > > > visit > > > http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > > visit > > http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > > > > -- > -Mike MacIsaac > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
