Linux-Advocacy Digest #193, Volume #27 Mon, 19 Jun 00 18:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: Linux MUST be in TROUBLE (Pete Goodwin)
Re: Windows98 (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Windows98 (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: stability of culture of helpfulness (Roger Blake)
Re: Claims of Windows supporting old applications are reflecting reality or fantasy?
Re: 10 Linux "features" nobody cares about. (Pete Goodwin)
Re: Thinking of reading anything by simon777 ? Read this first before you do .......
Re: [Fwd: Newsweek US Edition: Microsoft's Six Fatal Errors] (OSguy)
Re: What UNIX is good for.
Re: Dealing with filesystem volumes ("Sam Morris")
Re: 10 Linux "features" nobody cares about. (Pete Goodwin)
Re: Dealing with filesystem volumes ("Christopher Smith")
Re: So where ARE all of these supposed Linux users? (david parsons)
Re: How many times, installation != usability. (david parsons)
Re: Dealing with filesystem volumes (Joe Ragosta)
Re: 10 Linux "features" nobody cares about. (Cihl)
Re: Stability of the Culture of Helpfulness (Mark S. Bilk)
Re: 10 Linux "features" nobody cares about. (JEDIDIAH)
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Subject: Re: Linux MUST be in TROUBLE
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pete Goodwin)
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 20:42:21 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aaron Kulkis) wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Clue for the clueless: Do the same thing in Unix-land and earn 3x as
>much!
As I look through the jobs the dominant requirement is for Windows
experience. The jobs that I see that pay the most are in the Banking market
in London. Salaries are around �40k upwards with all the usual benefits.
I tried working London, for a financial services company. I learnt Windows
COM but I hated every minute of it. The job was boring!
Now I work for a small research company that specialises in 3D sound. The
work is a lot more fun, and I get paid almost as much as those high flying
jobs I see advertised.
I could work in OpenVMS since that's where I started, but who wants to work
on old fashioned systems - I might say the same of UNIX. I'd rather work on
the brash young world of Windows.
>When I learned Unix, it was specifically prohibited from being in
>the commercial domain (because AT&T had the Congressionally granted
>phone monopoly, they were prohibited from competing in the arena of
>computer hardware and software as part of legal monopoly status.)
>
>However, once I learned Unix, I realized that, of all of the major
>operating systems I had used, that it had the best model (and actual
>functionality) for resource allocation among competing users.
Have you never tried OpenVMS? You know, one of the guys who was heavily
involved in OpenVMS migrated to Microsoft and worked on... Windows NT.
>At that point, I made a decision to study Unix thoroughly....
>when I got out of school, Unix was JUST making it's way into
>the commercial market (in the wake of the MCI suit which broke
>up AT&T and ended their phone service monopoly, they were allowed
>to enter the computer hardware, software, and services arenas).
When I got out of school industry was just about ready to stop using paper
tape! Microprocessors seemed the way of the future, and a whole bunch of
new machines appeared in the UK:
The Compukit UK101 (6502 based)
The Spectrum (Z80?)
The Amiga
The BBC Micro
UNIX/OpenVMS was for the _big_ machines. Now we have PC's that would wipe
the floor of those big machines, and UNIX has come in the form of Linux,
bringing with it some of those old fashioned ideas that ought to have been
retired or replaced.
Basically, I was never a fan of UNIX, and I'm not much of a fan on Linux. I
worked on MOTIF before Windows walked all over it and history left it high
and dry.
Pete
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows98
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:45:50 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
David Cancio wrote:
>
> Hi everyone. First of all to avoid void flames, I work as GNU/Linux
> and Solaris administration, and do not find difficult any of them. I can
> manage to do whatever I want be it from GNU/Linux, Solaris, Windows
> NT, Windows 98, and the so ... (I've been playing around with computers
> since CP/M 2.2, and I like them and I think I understand them ...). This
> said, I find that as home OS, Windows 98 is the TODAY option for almost
> everyone. Sure it freezes, sure registry is awful, sure it is expensive,
> sure it
> is a shitty code, but sure that if something can be done with a computer
> (again,
> home users in mind), then Windows 98 can do it (okay, try do it well at
> least,
> to be honest). I mean, why have only GNU/Linux at my home when a magazine
> gives an English course (for Windows) ? Why can't I test all those new games
> ?
> Why can't I use my hardware (Windows 98 targeted most of it) at full power ?
> Yeah, I know GNU/Linux does support most of the hardware, but a lot of
> vendors add nice features that are only available with Windows 98 drivers.
> Even
> Windows 2000 fails at this (and at games and multimedia too). Sure that if
> I only do programming and internet, GNU/Linux is the best real option, but
> having only GNU/Linux at home, does close unnecessarily some doors that
> some day you may cross, doesn't it ?
You pretty much summed it up.
The only place where Windows excels is; games
and utilizing hardware from vendors which Billy Boy has roped into
not releasing driver specs.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows98
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:47:21 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
David Cancio wrote:
>
> > Your post really sounds like a thinly veiled troll.
>
> May be your opinion.
>
> > Well, the first thing you don't mention while you're talking
> > about windows 98 being able to "drive your hardware at full
> > power" (whoa) is that WINDOWS DOESN'T FUCKING WORK.
>
> Obviously you are wrong. It does work. It fails a lot of times, but
Spot the contradiction.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roger Blake)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: stability of culture of helpfulness
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 20:46:05 GMT
On Mon, 19 Jun 2000 19:02:32 GMT, Oliver Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Although I'm neither business savvy nor computer savvy, I'm writing an
>article for a trade magazine on the subject of a big company that has
>chosen Linux for its very big PC cluster. The business people at this
No comment.
>So far, one person has said it doesn't matter what the affliation is of
>who is asking (though their perceived attitude does).
Well, FWIW I've found Usenet to be a very useful technical resource since I
started using it in the early 1980s. I've gotten a lot of help and also
helped many others. (It works both ways.) I see no reason this won't
continue, though of course today one has to wade through a lot more crap
than in the old days.
--
Roger Blake
(remove second "g" and second "m" from address for email)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Claims of Windows supporting old applications are reflecting reality or
fantasy?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 20:47:24 GMT
On Thu, 15 Jun 2000 23:35:00 -0700, Stephen Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>This is incorrect. WindowsNT runs a modified
>microkernel design. Windows9x is a tad more like
Windows NT is anything but a microkernel. Since 4.x when the GUI was
merged into the kernel, it has been a bloated pig of a megakernel.
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Subject: Re: 10 Linux "features" nobody cares about.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pete Goodwin)
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 20:48:55 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Craig Kelley) wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Any my PC came with the OS install in Windows\Options. What's to stop
>> me backing this up?
>
>UCITA and the DMCA both make this illegal. You are using a
>technological means to circumvent a copy-protection scheme. If you
>don't mind pirating software and trampling over copyright law, then go
>ahead and abuse the license you paid for.
>
>Or, you could use Linux... ;-)
I see. I buy a PC with a license to use Windows. By no fault of my own,
Windows gets wiped. How then do I recover it? If I make a backup of my
system, then it's illegal?
Interesting, I wonder if that would stick under English law. It does not
seem unreasonable to make to make such a backup. If that's the way
Microsoft see as protecting themselves and avoiding pirate copies, then I
can't see how that would work.
Pete
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: Thinking of reading anything by simon777 ? Read this first before you do
.......
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 20:50:37 GMT
On Fri, 16 Jun 2000 13:37:43 +0200, James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Please note that this newsgroup is intended for arguments FOR and AGAINST
>Linux. Steve often identifies real (as opposed to imaginary) shortcomings
>of Linux. Yes, perhaps he does have too many aliases, and perhaps he is
He is nothing but a microsoft bedbuddy. I got tired of him when he's
harass the os/2 newsgroups.
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From: OSguy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Newsweek US Edition: Microsoft's Six Fatal Errors]
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 15:04:04 -0500
http://www.msnbc.com/m/nw/editors_note.asp
abraxas wrote:
> > What's going on here?
>
> Microsoft is trying to fool you, and theyve drastically underestimated your
> intelligence and computer experience. I.e.; theyve assumed that you're
> one of their customers.
>
> -----yttrx
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: What UNIX is good for.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 20:51:57 GMT
On 15 Jun 2000 10:56:18 -0500, Tim Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>UNIX is very good at shuffelling text aroumd. LinoNuts call that "powerfull". I call
>it
>"pointless".
>
>However, doing annything else with UNIX is a chalange. It's not fast enough to be any
>kind
>of server, so if you realy want to shuffel text around and then send it out to
>Windows 2000
>sevrer where it can be axcessed by users, you still nead 20 UNIX boxes just to keep
>up with the
>servor. You can save the money you would spend on the 20 UNIX boxes (and the days it
>would take
>just to figure how to make it shuffall text and send it to Windos) just by doing
>everyting on
>the Windos 2000 server.
That is some of the funniest shit I've read. W2K requires about 10 times
the hardware of linux. Get over it and quit lying.
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From: "Sam Morris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: Dealing with filesystem volumes
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 21:47:25 +0100
> > For some reason Windows assumes that I have a floppy. I have told the
BIOS
> > that I don't have one, but I still see a generic removeable drive icon
in
> My
> > Computer, and get an enormous and annoying delay whenever anything tries
> to
> > access it. Does anyone know what I can do about this? :)
>
> Good question, I don't think I've ever had a machine without a floppy :).
>
> At a guess, I'd say if you go to the "Devices" control panel, scroll down
to
> "floppy" and set it's startup (button on the right) to "disabled", that
> would do it. Hit the "stop" button to stop the driver.
Hurrah! The bane of my existance has disappeared! Thank you!
Now if only Windows was clever enough to realise that I didn't have a floppy
drive attached in the first place... :)
> > That's mighty nice for those able to run NT. :)
>
> Well, it's hardware requirements are hardly what you'd describe as extreme
> today.
Maybe not in your case. I'm just a poor student. Although I had Win2k
running on my machine for about 2 months, I switched back to 98 since almost
every game I was ever interested in playing ran too slowly for it to be
worth it.
--
Sam Morris
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
...7/6/00: 3rd installation of Windows since March took 6h30m, and that's
without a working modem...
...you can have my Mac when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers...
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Subject: Re: 10 Linux "features" nobody cares about.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pete Goodwin)
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 20:55:13 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Palmer) wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Or you could just sell the POS and buy one that can run NT.
Still can't remotely login to NT.
>>The fact that I can login into my older PC file server means I can shut
>>it down remotely. You can't do that with Windows 98 SE!
>
>But who cares?
I do! I want to be able to forget the older PC and run it from my other PC!
>>My god a spell checker would be handy here.
>
>I've alreaddy saturated the spealchecker's dictionarry with misspelt
>words so it thinks their all correct now.
What about the spell checker in your head?
>>It is useful NOT running a GUI as that sometimes gets in the way. Why
>>run a GUI on a server? As for not being able to turn off multiuser, why
>>do you consider that 'inflexible'?
>
>Because you always half to type password or else you get cracked.
So what's the alternative?
>>Yes I do find it useful logging into my Samba file server remotely from
>>my Windows 98 SE PC.
>
>Avaradge users don't care if the can log in or not.
On a single PC not on a network that's true. But I login to a network from
home and at work. Usernames/password matter then, unless you want every tom
dick and harry to see what files you've got.
>Nobody even uses the CLI anymore. You can do everything from within
>Windows. So why does it nead it?
Yes I do about 99% of everything with a GUI. There are some things that are
best done in a CLI - like repetitive tasks. What do you think script
languages are for?
I write BAT scripts to automate things for myself that are a pain to keep
repeating with a GUI.
>>Contrast this with my Windows 98 SE PC. I switch it on, and recently it
>>told me my registry was corrupt and I should reboot to repair it. I
>>reboot and it tells me exactly the same thing again, so I kill the
>>ScanRegistry crap that doesn't appear to be doing its job. I switch it
>>off and due to a bug in Windows 98 SE it hangs on shutdown.
>
>That's never happend to me.
It's a known bug. It usually happens if you connect to other shares on
other machines.
Pete
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From: "Christopher Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: Dealing with filesystem volumes
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 07:06:44 +1000
"Sam Morris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:QLv35.196$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > For some reason Windows assumes that I have a floppy. I have told the
> BIOS
> > > that I don't have one, but I still see a generic removeable drive icon
> in
> > My
> > > Computer, and get an enormous and annoying delay whenever anything
tries
> > to
> > > access it. Does anyone know what I can do about this? :)
> >
> > Good question, I don't think I've ever had a machine without a floppy
:).
> >
> > At a guess, I'd say if you go to the "Devices" control panel, scroll
down
> to
> > "floppy" and set it's startup (button on the right) to "disabled", that
> > would do it. Hit the "stop" button to stop the driver.
>
> Hurrah! The bane of my existance has disappeared! Thank you!
>
> Now if only Windows was clever enough to realise that I didn't have a
floppy
> drive attached in the first place... :)
NT4 isn't PnP, you should know that :D.
> > > That's mighty nice for those able to run NT. :)
> >
> > Well, it's hardware requirements are hardly what you'd describe as
extreme
> > today.
>
> Maybe not in your case. I'm just a poor student. Although I had Win2k
> running on my machine for about 2 months, I switched back to 98 since
almost
> every game I was ever interested in playing ran too slowly for it to be
> worth it.
If you can run 98, you can certainly run NT4. You just have to decide
whether the extra reliability and stability are worth not being able to play
games.
Anyway, I'm a poor student (in Australia, even, where computer equimpent is
taxed up the wazoo) and I can still afford a machine to run it :). All you
really need is gobs of RAM, which is cheap. My Celeron 450 is two years old
and runs Win2k just fine - that's hardly a high powered machine today. Even
if I clocked it back down to 300Mhz it'd be fine.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (david parsons)
Subject: Re: So where ARE all of these supposed Linux users?
Date: 19 Jun 2000 13:16:12 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>The Linvocates have been spouting for sometime the "huge" number of
>people leaving Windows and downloading/buying (shudder!) Linux
>instead.
>
>So where are all of these folks?
>
>Last count it was .3 percent of the market.
IDC says 4% as of the end of 1999, with a 73% growth rate. If those
figures are accurate and the growth rate is persisting, it's now
between 5% and 6%, and about equal to the Mac.
____
david parsons \bi/ obattributiondamnit's are always good when passing
\/ around random marketshare values. They don't make
the figures any more accurate, but they do indicate
that you're not just making the numbers up as you
go.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (david parsons)
Subject: Re: How many times, installation != usability.
Date: 19 Jun 2000 13:11:29 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Check their webpage.
It's hard to evaluate a product by checking the vendor webpage,
unless Creative (or whoever) has figured out some spiffy magic
that means that you don't need to get the hardware to use it.
>Suffice to say you are getting 1/4 of the cards true power running
>Linux.....
Sure, that's what you say. But you've also accused Linux of
causing boils and fever. So why don't use just pop that SBLive
into the mail and I'll check it out for myself?
____
david parsons \bi/ Not that I don't believe what you say, but I just
\/ want to be careful.
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From: Joe Ragosta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: Dealing with filesystem volumes
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 21:11:45 GMT
In article <QLv35.196$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Sam Morris"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > For some reason Windows assumes that I have a floppy. I have told the
> BIOS
> > > that I don't have one, but I still see a generic removeable drive
> > > icon
> in
> > My
> > > Computer, and get an enormous and annoying delay whenever anything
> > > tries
> > to
> > > access it. Does anyone know what I can do about this? :)
> >
> > Good question, I don't think I've ever had a machine without a floppy
> > :).
> >
> > At a guess, I'd say if you go to the "Devices" control panel, scroll
> > down
> to
> > "floppy" and set it's startup (button on the right) to "disabled", that
> > would do it. Hit the "stop" button to stop the driver.
>
> Hurrah! The bane of my existance has disappeared! Thank you!
>
> Now if only Windows was clever enough to realise that I didn't have a
> floppy
> drive attached in the first place... :)
That's asking a lot.....
I'm just starting up a new PC and having fun with more of the Windows
garbage....
Celeron 566
Abit BE6-II
192 MB PC 100 RAM
Voodoo3 video
Creative Labs Soundblaster 128
And so on.
Here's where it gets interesting. I installed everything in a new case
and everything seems to work OK. When I use my old drive (which has
Win98 on it), it starts and everything's OK. But now, I install a new
DMA-66 drive. Here's where it gets fun.
I didn't install a floppy drive. I figure--who needs one nowadays, but I
did order an LS-120 drive. Unfortunately, it's not here yet. No problem,
you can boot from a Windows CD, right?
I set the BIOS to boot from CD.
Install Win2K CD. Boot. It boots OK from the CD (other than the
silliness of asking me if I really want to boot from a CD). Win2K loads,
and asks if I want to install. I hit 'enter'.
Oops. Win2K won't recognize a DMA66 drive.
Oh, well. I'll try Windows Millenium (latest beta). Go through the same
process.
Oops. Boot failure. Apparently, you can't boot from the Millenium CD.
So much for ease of use......
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From: Cihl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 10 Linux "features" nobody cares about.
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 21:11:49 GMT
> >>Contrast this with my Windows 98 SE PC. I switch it on, and recently it
> >>told me my registry was corrupt and I should reboot to repair it. I
> >>reboot and it tells me exactly the same thing again, so I kill the
> >>ScanRegistry crap that doesn't appear to be doing its job. I switch it
> >>off and due to a bug in Windows 98 SE it hangs on shutdown.
> >
> >That's never happend to me.
>
> It's a known bug. It usually happens if you connect to other shares on
> other machines.
>
> Pete
In all fairness, Microsoft does have a patch for that on Windows
Update. I think it's the general update. It works nicely on my
machine.
--
�I live!�
�I hunger!�
�Run, coward!�
-- The Sinistar
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark S. Bilk)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Stability of the Culture of Helpfulness
Date: 19 Jun 2000 21:18:10 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Oliver Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Although I'm neither business savvy nor computer savvy, I'm writing an
>article for a trade magazine on the subject of a big company that has
>chosen Linux for its very big PC cluster. The business people at this
>company consider Linux a great way to save money on computer support
>costs--not just because they believe it to be more trouble-free, but
>because they feel they can just log onto the net and get expert free
>help any time, thus eliminating the need for most of their support
>staff.
>
>I have a couple questions:
>
>1)Does this make sense--that they could reduce their support staff? (and
>if so, by how much? if anybody cares to make an estimate.)
>
>2) Is this culture of on-line helpfulness impervious to a)increasing
>numbers of Linux users, b)increasing numbers of queries from Linux users
>at companies who--it might be perceived--could afford to hire people to
>generate in-house the answers they are instead getting through the
>kindness of strangers.
You have raised some very important matters. In a community
of mutual support, everyone with a question must first try
to find the answer on their own, second by asking their col-
leagues, and only third by asking the community at large.
People must also give help to others.
For a company to avoid leeching off the Linux community, I
think it must do the following things (many of which apply
to users in general):
o Buy and use a boxed set of a good Linux distribution, so
a good manual is available for it. Keep it handy in a
central place for all users.
o Buy at least six good books on Linux and keep them avail-
able in the same place. Have a sign-out sheet so people
can find them when they've disappeared.
o Set up an internal News (NNTP) server for company use only,
with a few newsgroups for Linux support.
o Set up an internal company website containing pointers to
various external documentation sites (like the Linux
Documentation Project -- LDP), and a company Linux support
FAQ page (in HTML) that is kept up to date responsibly by
one or more people.
o Make sure everyone's computer is set up with a newsreader
and web browser pointed to the above.
o Anyone who has a question about Linux must do *all* of the
following before (and hopefully, instead of) posting it
to the Linux community Usenet groups:
o Look in the company Linux support FAQ web page.
o Look up the topic in the distro manual and in those six
or more Linux books.
o Search the company Linux support newsgroups.
o Read the relevant man pages, HOW-TOs, FAQs, etc., on their
computer, on the LAN, or on the Web.
o Do an http://www.google.com/linux web search. Learn how
to use the simple operators -- "", +, -, etc., in order
to search effectively.
o Do a DejaNews "power" search. Learn how to use the boolean
operators to search effectively.
o Ask other people in the company who might know, verbally
or by posting to one or more company support newsgroups.
o Post to a Linux community newsgroup *only* after conscien-
tiously doing *all* of the above and having no success.
o When you get an answer that works, put it in the company
FAQ (or get the maintainer(s) to), and post it to the
company newsgroup(s).
o Each Linux user in the company should spend time helping
less knowledgeable users, for example by answering ques-
tions posted in the internal company support newsgroups
and by adding items to the FAQ.
o Each knowledgeable Linux user in the company should spend
time answering questions in the external -- community --
Usenet newsgroups.
o Make sure everyone in the company gets a copy of this
document, and keeps it handy. 8^)
Feel free to use this in your article!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
Subject: Re: 10 Linux "features" nobody cares about.
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 21:28:30 GMT
On 19 Jun 2000 20:27:00 GMT, Marada C. Shradrakaii <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>The browser is for Windows. There isn't even a point in making a browser for
>>DOS.
>
>Tell that to the Arachne people. (www.arachne.cz)
>
>>In Windos, if the softwhere is beta, you won't see it on the market.
>
>If the programme is unstable under Linux, it's often called "Version 0.5" and
>people can try it. If it's on Windows, it's 1.0
>
...and it's like Windows 1.0 <snicker>
[deletia]
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If you know what you want done, it is quite often more useful to
tell the machine what you want it to do rather than merely having
the machine tell you what you are allowed to do.
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