Linux-Advocacy Digest #178, Volume #28 Wed, 2 Aug 00 11:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? (Chris Wenham)
Re: Aaron Kulkis -- USELESS Idiot -- And His "Enemies" -was- Another (Roberto
Alsina)
Re: Just curious, how do I do this in Windows? (Paul Hughett)
Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? (Chris Wenham)
Re: Just curious, how do I do this in Windows? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Linux, easy to use? (Roberto Alsina)
Re: Linsux as a desktop platform (Roberto Alsina)
Re: trying to break a patent ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? (Chris Wenham)
Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? (Chris Wenham)
Re: Aaron Kulkis -- USELESS Idiot -- And His "Enemies" -was- Another one of
Lenin's Useful Idiots denies reality ("Marcus Turner")
Re: Micro$oft retests TPC benchmark ("Nik Simpson")
Re: Aaron Kulkis -- USELESS Idiot -- And His "Enemies" -was- Another ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
From: Chris Wenham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 14:24:54 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] () writes:
> >I see. So GnuCash has a support line now? Face it - people have a
>
> Can we get a testimonial from the Intuit support line?
>
> Otherwise claiming it as a benefit is absurd.
Mass marketed items sell by perception rather than reality. A
potential buyer doesn't have to know how good or bad the support line
is, just that it's there and they can use it.
After all, if FinanceFoo doesn't have a support line, but FinanceBar
does, it would be a selling point if all else was equal and it
wouldn't matter at the checkout counter whether that support line was
any good or not.
Regards,
Chris Wenham
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From: Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,alt.society.liberalism,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Aaron Kulkis -- USELESS Idiot -- And His "Enemies" -was- Another
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 11:31:59 -0300
"Aaron R. Kulkis" escribi�:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed this unto the Network:
> > >SemiScholar wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, 26 Jul 2000 12:58:09 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >Democracy is 6 wolves and 2 lambs voting on what to have for dinner.
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> Wrong. Democracy is 10 lambs and 1 wolf voting on what to have for
> > >> dinner.
> > >
> > >Oh really. Look at any democratic system,
> >
> > You can't. There aren't any.
> >
> > >> In most other systems, it's the wolf alone who decides.
> > >> Democracy is the only system in which lambs stand a chance.
> >
> > >Visit any high school,
> >
> > High schools aren't democratic.
>
> Wrong. They are the very embodiment of a pure democracy...MOB FUCKING
> RULE!
What do you propose as an alternative to democracy?
What are the means you intend to use, or support using, to impose
your alternative way of government?
Do those means involve violence?
--
Roberto Alsina
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From: Paul Hughett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Just curious, how do I do this in Windows?
Date: 2 Aug 2000 14:25:32 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Leslie Mikesell wrote:
:> The HP tape may very well be broken but it has nothing to
:> do with byte/bit order of the processor. Try it over
:> NFS and see how it looks before the drive touches it. I
:> swap tar tapes between a pentium and sparc without
:> problems and before that an AT&T 3b2 which was also
:> opposite-endian from a pentium. Things like jpegs
:> have to be stored in a standard representation or they
:> wouldn't work on the internet.
: Hmmmmmmm, They must be using 8-bits as the primary storage wordsize.
Not necessarily. We do image processing work here on a mix of
Solaris (big-endian) and Intel (little-endian) machines, and have
standardized on the use of big-endian format for any data files
that need to be transfered, using a subroutine library that converts
between big-endian and native.
Paul Hughett
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
From: Chris Wenham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 14:28:53 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell) writes:
> But note that it might cost several thousand extra to duplicate
> the applications software that can be included for free
> with Linux. The problem with this previously has been that
> the available apps have been geared towards network services
> not mainstream desktop office programs. OpenOffice is
> going to change that, and all the rest will still come
> along for free.
I see that OpenOffice will also be available for Windows.
> Note that this is a temporary situation until the popular
> programs are all ported to Linux - or they all start
> originating there.
Yes, but that's a chicken-and-egg problem.
> That was just a suggestion, but it seems like a reasonable thing
> for a hardware vendor to build, especially if that are already
> stuck with one of those deals where they pay for the copy
> of windows for every box anyway.
I thought that was illegal now? :-)
> > You might get away with it, but I'd personally be looking for some
> > other way.
>
> A fully working WINE would be better.
A feature-par GNUCash would be better yet.
Regards,
Chris Wenham
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Just curious, how do I do this in Windows?
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 10:32:09 -0400
Nathaniel Jay Lee wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > Nathaniel Jay Lee wrote:
> > >
> > > Nathaniel Jay Lee wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Nathaniel Jay Lee wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Nathaniel Jay Lee wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Oh, but all three can use it without problems; voila, a netural
> > > > > > > > > > format.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Has anybody told you that you are a fucking idiot.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > it's true, it's true.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Oh god, we can't escape Kurt Angle even on usenet!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > (THIS JOKE INTENDED FOR WWF FANS. AND IF YOU ARE, IT SPEAKS VOLUMES.
> > > > > > > > HINT: It's not just the catch phrase they have in common.)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Never watch wresting...I don't even watch TV.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Someone else used in another newsgroup, and I thought it was...poignant.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ah, so that it's not totally lost on you, here is a brief explaination.
> > > > > > Don't take it too personally, it was meant as a joke.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kurt Angle is a former Olympic gold medal winner that now wrestles in
> > > > > > the WWF. He is extremely egotistical. He uses his Olympic gold as his
> > > > > > excuse for his ego. He comes out and tells the crowd they are nothing
> > > > > > because they don't have 'what it takes' to 'win the gold'. They don't
> > > > > > know what it's like to work for something. They just don't understand
> > > > > > how hard it is to truly work towards your goals. On and on.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > He also won a tournament known as King of the Ring and it added to his
> > > > > > ego. He considers himself royalty (and feels it is only appropriate,
> > > > > > after all, he is an Olympic Gold Medalist) and that everyone around him,
> > > > > > including the other wrestlers, are just commoners. He typical goes out
> > > > > > of his way to insult someone, or to insult that crowd, and then as he is
> > > > > > getting booed, he nods his head, holds out his hands and says, "It's
> > > > > > true, it's true!"
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for the info.
> > > > >
> > > > > While not a fan of TV wrestling (gag) he does have a very good point.
> > > > >
> > > > > *HE* won the gold. *HE* reached the pinnacle of achievement which
> > > > > none of his opponents have even come within reach of.
> > > >
> > > > My point exactly. While you both have a right to be somewhat arrogant
> > > > (after all, you have each achieved quite a bit in your own way) and you
> > > > are nearly as annoying as he is,
> > >
> > > Sorry Aaron, I meant to say 'and you aren't nearly as annoying as he is.
> > >
> >
> > No offense taken. I know I'm annoying on USENET....by design.
> > (Ask Drestin Adress)
> >
>
> Well, at least you post pro-Linux posts in the Linux newsgroup. Drestin
> on the other hand...
>
> Annoyance factor: Drestin > Aaron
>
Unless your name is Drestin Adress
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Nathaniel Jay Lee
--
I will be available for work in London soon
CV - Attached Word Document.
----
----
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
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From: Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux, easy to use?
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 11:43:15 -0300
[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribi�:
>
> Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed this unto the Network:
> >Pete Goodwin escribi�:
> >> 'grep' is definately less readable than 'find' or 'search'
> >
> >search is available, find is something else.
> >
> >add this in your ~/.bashrc
> >
> >alias search=grep
> >
> >And I find "find" more readable than "dir /s".
>
> The Unix equivalent of "dir /s" is "ls -lR", not "find".
Well, "dir /s \file.ext" is pretty much the same as
"find / -name file.ext", in a way that ls -lR can't quite
do.
> The only DOS equivalent to the Unix "find" command is
> the DOS port of the GNU version of find.
Well, dir /s works as a castrated lookalike.
--
Roberto Alsina (KDE developer, MFCH)
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From: Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linsux as a desktop platform
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 11:44:29 -0300
"Aaron R. Kulkis" escribi�:
>
> Roberto Alsina wrote:
> >
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Roberto Alsina wrote:
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > > > > After that, he published "fiction", with character names like
> > > > > "Simplicio" and "Intelligentsio"
> > > >
> > > > In fact, that was the work he was asked to withdraw. That was a
> > > > common way of publishing theory, as dialog. In fact, I have read
> > > > that the reason why he was harassed was that he was not impartial
> > > > in his exposition, showing the defender of the old theory as a
> > > > moron (which was, of course, a very stupid thing to do).
> > >
> > > Actually, no. His original work was a scholarly work.
> >
> > Care to cite the name of that work?
>
> I don't know, but you can contact Prof. Foley.
>
> Or, send e-mail to Prof. Rothenberg, his office is right down
> the hall from Foley's ( Howard Rothenburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> )
Well, you know these fellows, you say the thing exists, could
you please ask them?
--
Roberto Alsina
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: trying to break a patent
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 10:36:27 -0400
Nathaniel Jay Lee wrote:
>
> Nick wrote:
> >
> > > Trying to prove you 'own' the intellectual property that founds the
> > > basis of the Internet, or networking in general, has not proven easy for
> > > anyone. I would say you have a good chance of 'breaking' this patent
> > > unless there is some other aspect to the problem.
> >
> > British Telecom is currently waving their patent about hyperlink technology
> > about so this'll be very interesting...
> >
> > Nick
>
> And that was one of the things I was thinking about when I posted.
> There are also the 'one-click' and other cases from Amazon, but that
> hyperlink thing just killed me. How can anyone come on the scene after
> all this time and just happen to say they own the rights to
> hyperlinking. Funny they didn't claim that when the 'web' was just
> starting to pick up steam.
It will fail.
To have patent or copyright protection, one must demonstrate that you
have vigilantly protected your patent or copyright whenever it was
infringed upon in the past.
Since BT has failed to even mention patent infringement up until
now, this is prima facea evidence of failure to protect the patent.
Thus, they lose all patent rights.
>
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Nathaniel Jay Lee
--
I will be available for work in London soon
CV - Attached Word Document.
----
----
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
From: Chris Wenham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 14:43:50 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] () writes:
> OTOH, bulk local storage, and dedicated backup devices
> have always been cheap and will likely continue to be
> remarkably faster than offsite storage.
I wasn't speculating that everyone would use it. I personally
experienced the loss of my computer /and/ the on-site backups I'd
made.
> > There are a lot of people who like trivial toys and won't part with a
> > critical mass of them. These could be stock tickers or finance
> > applications and other things. Perhaps they have a Handspring Visor
> > with a USB cradle and a bunch of programs that synch with Windows
> > gadgets (PayPal, for example). I don't think USB Palm support or
> > PayPal are available on Linux yet, but even if they are I could find
> > others which aren't.
>
> The same can be said of NT.
I know NT can run programs like Adobe Illustrator and other big
names. (I guess maybe Linux could too with WINE, but then how many
people who set out to buy an Illustrator compatible PC would have the
patience to set that up and wouldn't be bothered by the lack of phone
support?)
I also know NT can run a lot of Windows "toys", even if not all of
them.
Regards,
Chris Wenham
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
From: Chris Wenham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 14:46:41 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] () writes:
> Unless you've got some recent firsthand experience with Intuit,
> the general pervasive pessimism regarding tech support.
I don't think a potential customer knows how good Intuit's support
line is when they are in the store making a decision, but they factor
the presense of support into their decision anyway - especially if
it's a choice between one that has it and one that doesn't.
> I have experience on both sides of the phone as do others here.
So do I. So what?
Regards,
Chris Wenham
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From: "Marcus Turner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,alt.society.liberalism,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Aaron Kulkis -- USELESS Idiot -- And His "Enemies" -was- Another one of
Lenin's Useful Idiots denies reality
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 13:48:47 GMT
"Roberto Alsina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> What do you propose as an alternative to democracy?
A Representative Republic with certain guaranteed individual rights.
> What are the means you intend to use, or support using, to impose
> your alternative way of government?
Litigation, Checks and Blances with the Government, Enumerated Rights,
Public Education, Free Vote, Free Press, the usual stuff...
> Do those means involve violence?
Well, if someone comes and tries to take my rights away from me, then
perhaps. It depends on the degree of violence that is forced upon me.
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From: "Nik Simpson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Micro$oft retests TPC benchmark
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:00:21 -0400
"Donal K. Fellows" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8m992t$3tt$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <0AEh5.1878$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Drestin Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > "Donal K. Fellows" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> The PC bus architecture has the I/O throughput for that sort of
> >> stuff? The usual tactic is to get a proper mainframe or Sun
> >> Enterprise or what-have-you[*], and I've never heard of a port of
> >> NT to that size of iron...
> > Yes, actually, it does. This is proven all the time. Benchmarks head
> > to head against the biggest iron Sun can muster is defeated by
> > Compaq and Dell boxes using Wintel.
>
> 'Scuse me while I look sceptical. PCI is a very middle-of-the-road
> bus, fine enough for most desktop stuff but not really your first
> choice for heavy duty I/O work. Sure, it beats ISA, but so does a
> tin-can telephone. Higher end busses (e.g. SBus) just have greater
> peak and sustained rates of data transfer.
I'm not sure that's true anymore, current x86 server platforms are
supporting the 66MHz/64bit PCI bus which has a peak of ~540MB/s. Last time I
looked, SBUS was 267MB/s peak, but I maybe out of date. The big differences
between the hi-end UNIX servers and the x86 platform is the crossbar rather
than bus based architectures and the number of processors.
For what it's worth, 1GB/s PCI bus implementations will be along before the
end of this year and then Sun and everybody else will be moving to InfiBand
which will further blur the distinction between x86 and h-end RISC
architectures.
--
Nik Simpson
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,alt.society.liberalism,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Aaron Kulkis -- USELESS Idiot -- And His "Enemies" -was- Another
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 10:58:54 -0400
Roberto Alsina wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" escribi�:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed this unto the Network:
> > > >SemiScholar wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> On Wed, 26 Jul 2000 12:58:09 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> > > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Democracy is 6 wolves and 2 lambs voting on what to have for dinner.
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >> Wrong. Democracy is 10 lambs and 1 wolf voting on what to have for
> > > >> dinner.
> > > >
> > > >Oh really. Look at any democratic system,
> > >
> > > You can't. There aren't any.
> > >
> > > >> In most other systems, it's the wolf alone who decides.
> > > >> Democracy is the only system in which lambs stand a chance.
> > >
> > > >Visit any high school,
> > >
> > > High schools aren't democratic.
> >
> > Wrong. They are the very embodiment of a pure democracy...MOB FUCKING
> > RULE!
>
> What do you propose as an alternative to democracy?
A Constitutionally-limited Republic.
We have one in the US. Now if we could only imprison those
legislators who insist upon passing unconstitutional laws.
(Lets say, each federal legislator who voted for an unconstitutional
law spends one day in jail for every day which said unconstitutional
law was in effect. This will only have to be enforced 2, maybe
3 times before they all get the message that unconstitutional laws
at the Federal level will no longer be tolerated.)
> What are the means you intend to use, or support using, to impose
> your alternative way of government?
>
> Do those means involve violence?
Of course not.
>
> --
> Roberto Alsina
--
I will be available for work in London soon
CV - Attached Word Document.
----
----
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
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