Linux-Advocacy Digest #243, Volume #28            Sat, 5 Aug 00 06:13:03 EDT

Contents:
  Re: The Perestroika Deception. ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Aaron Kulkis -- USELESS Idiot -- And His "Enemies" -was-  ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: LOREN PETRICH...CLOSET-DICTATOR ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: LOREN PETRICH...CLOSET-DICTATOR ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: LOREN PETRICH...CLOSET-DICTATOR ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: LINUX, OF COURSE!! (Cihl)
  Re: LINUX, OF COURSE!! (Cihl)
  Re: Aaron-Kulkis-Style Conspiracy about Linux ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: KDE2 Yahooo!!! (Cihl)
  Quick Time (was:Yeah!  Bring down da' man!) (Dennis SCP)

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Subject: Re: The Perestroika Deception.
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 05:14:53 -0400

Loren Petrich wrote:
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Loren Petrich wrote:
> 
> >>         However, by protecting other processes, the OS coddles the user
> >> by not hurting whatever other processes a user may have active.
> >And so, because ONE user's processes misbehave, ALL USERS should
> >suffer? ...
> 
>         It would provide much better reason to punish than otherwise.
> 
> >>         This from someone who think that it ought to be trusted with
> >> armed force.
> >The alternative is facing invasion by any number of nations that
> >recognize ZERO individual liberties. ...
> 
>         The alternative is the Ayn Rand Brigade. Which has yet to defeat
> all the statist armies of the world in battle.
> 
> >>         It also specifies a Navy, but no Air Force.
> >The Air Force draws it's lineage from the Army, and thus, legally
> >falls under the same Constitutional rules which govern the Army.
> 
>         Very ingenious.
> 
> >> >> >Let's take.....blue-blood Republican Jay Rockefeller, ...
> >Wrong.  I complained that they are a bunch of FREE-LOADERS...just like
> >the welfare-whores that they are so fond of.
> 
>         So inheriting something makes one a freeloader?
> 
>         [a lot of stuff about Sergei Golitsyn being in hiding...]
> 
>         Good Grief! Alexander Solzhenitsyn got to go back to Russia, and
> Mr. Golitsyn acts like he's afraid of his own shadow?

1. Solzhenitsyn hasn't been condemned with orders to shoot on sight.

2. It's very good PR to to welcome Solzhenitsyn home...especially,
as Golytsin said, they are trying to get rid of the ****IMAGE***
of a totalitarian, Stalinist state.


> 
> >       Lenin advised the Communists that they must be prepared to
> >       "resort to all sorts of stratagems, maneuvers, illegal
> >       methods, evasions and subterfuge" to achieve their objectives.
> 
>         That doesn't prove a thing.
> 
> >If you examine the backgrounds of prominent Russian figures, you will
> >find that they have long Communist Party/ KGB or Komsomol pedigrees.
> 
>         As my sister had pointed out, Yugoslav Communist Party members
> were mostly careerist opportunists, and the same is very likely true in
> most cases in the xSU. So it is not surprising that some of them have
> become very ardent capitalists.
> 
>         I'm not saying that they can be trusted to love democracy,
> however; it might be possible that some ultranationalist regime would
> appear that decides to "rescue" ethnic Russians outside of Russia by
> rebuilding some of the old empire (this is inspired by the favorite Nazi
> claim that ethnic Germans were being beaten up in eastern Europe).
> 
> --
> Loren Petrich                           Happiness is a fat Macintosh
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]                      And a fast train
> My home page: http://www.petrich.com/home.html


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642

I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

J: Loren's Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.

C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
   sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
   that she doesn't like.
 
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.

E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (D) above.

F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
   response until their behavior improves.

G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

H:  Knackos...you're a retard.

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,alt.society.liberalism,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Aaron Kulkis -- USELESS Idiot -- And His "Enemies" -was- 
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 05:17:58 -0400

Loren Petrich wrote:
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >Then please explain for everyone here any substantial
> >disagreements you hold with Communist philosophy.
> [...]
> >Once again, I ask you to suggest in ANY way where you defer
> >from the those who openly admit that they advocate Communism.
> >As far as I can tell, the only difference is...you're too
> >much of a fucking coward to stand up and state exactly what
> >it is you believe in.
> 
>         This depends on what Mr. Kulkis considers Communism, and it's
> apparently anything to the left of groves of birch trees. For all we
> know, many Republican politicians could count as Communists.

A lot of Republicans are socialists.  Rightwing socialists,
but they are socialists....which for Communists, is good enough...
as long as it's a philosophy that puts the power of the state
above all individual liberties....they'll accept that for now
and worry about which brand of socialism later.


> 
> --
> Loren Petrich                           Happiness is a fast Macintosh
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]                      And a fast train
> My home page: http://www.petrich.com/home.html


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642

I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

J: Loren's Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.

C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
   sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
   that she doesn't like.
 
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.

E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (D) above.

F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
   response until their behavior improves.

G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

H:  Knackos...you're a retard.

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,soc.singles,alt.society.anarchy
Subject: Re: LOREN PETRICH...CLOSET-DICTATOR
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 05:19:21 -0400

Loren Petrich wrote:
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> >> No one got arrested for not using Microsoft.
> 
> >If you are CEO of a OEM PC manufacturer, if you decide to withhold
> >from signing a Microsoft eexclusive-sales contract, then you will
> >suffer from having to purchase OS licenses at 3x that of your
> >competitors, putting your company out of business (because the
> >margin on desktop machines is so low to begin with).  Thus,
> >refusal to sign a Microsoft contract is, for a CEO, the
> >business-world equivalent of signing one's own death warrant.
> 
>         What M$ imposed was awkward choices;

Yes...walk the way I direct you, or...OOOPS, sorry about your
broken arm..you shouldn't have turned like that.




>
> however, using Mr. Kulkis's
> usual anything-goes-when-it's-business rhetoric, that would be 100%
> legitimate.

I have never said such a thing.  I am in favor of FREE Markets.

Microsofts behavior is anti-thetical to a FREE market.


> --
> Loren Petrich                           Happiness is a fast Macintosh
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]                      And a fast train
> My home page: http://www.petrich.com/home.html


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642

I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

J: Loren's Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.

C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
   sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
   that she doesn't like.
 
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.

E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (D) above.

F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
   response until their behavior improves.

G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

H:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,soc.singles,alt.society.anarchy
Subject: Re: LOREN PETRICH...CLOSET-DICTATOR
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 05:20:06 -0400

Loren Petrich wrote:
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Loren Petrich wrote:
> >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >> Michael S. Lorrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> 
> >> >> How do you "opt out" of the tax system ?
> >> >Join the Tax Patriots. In the US, the Income Tax, in order to be
> >> >constitutional, had to be made a voluntary tax system. Do the proper
> >> >paperwork, and you don't gotta pay taxes. ...
> >>         Tax evasion, pure and simple.
> >Actually not.
> 
>         Baloney. How will your beloved armed forces be funded if
> everybody evades taxes like that?

The same way we always did: Import duties and Excise taxes
(both are effectively sales taxes).

> 
> --
> Loren Petrich                           Happiness is a fast Macintosh
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]                      And a fast train
> My home page: http://www.petrich.com/home.html


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642

I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

J: Loren's Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.

C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
   sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
   that she doesn't like.
 
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.

E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (D) above.

F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
   response until their behavior improves.

G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

H:  Knackos...you're a retard.

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,soc.singles,alt.society.anarchy
Subject: Re: LOREN PETRICH...CLOSET-DICTATOR
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 05:21:14 -0400

Rauni wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 04 Aug 2000 21:54:44 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, 03 Aug 2000 19:25:32 -0400, Michael S. Lorrey wrote:
> >> >Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> >>
> >> >> The government throw you in jail for tax fraud if you don't pay your
> >> >> federal tax, but Microsoft can't do anything if you opt out of the
> >> >> Microsoft tax ? Subtle difference.
> >> >
> >> >Actually, Microsoft can get the government to go crack your head for
> >> >them. Its called piracy charges....
> >>
> >> How can they get you for piracy if you don't use their products ???
> >>
> >> --
> >> Donovan
> >
> >There's the catch.  If you want a pre-built Intel-based PC,
> >your options are quite limited (unless you go to one of the
> >until-recently-nonexistant Linux startups).  3 years ago,
> >you had no choices...Windows or no computer.
> 
> Aaron proving his stupidity again.  I know a lot people who use OS2.
> It doesn't  crash like windows.  And it has been  available for a
> *long* time.  My daughter and my ex had it on their computer over four
> years ago.

How much software written after 1996 will run on OS/2?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?



-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642

I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

J: Loren's Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.

C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
   sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
   that she doesn't like.
 
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.

E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (D) above.

F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
   response until their behavior improves.

G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

H:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: Cihl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LINUX, OF COURSE!!
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 09:25:51 GMT

Pete Goodwin wrote:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cihl) wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> >No hardware support? Hah! Did someone ever tell you that Mightgosoft
> >hardly supports any hardware AT ALL!? You ALWAYS need vendor CD's.
> >YUCK! Install OS. Reboot. Detect hardware. Reboot. Put in CD 1.
> >Reboot. CD 2. Reboot. etc. etc. etc.
> >In Linux, you can ALWAYS pick your video card on install from a
> >HUMONGOUS list. You network card is ALWAYS supported. Sound cards
> >ALWAYS work. I ALWAYS write 'ALWAYS' with capital letters!
> 
> Sound cards always work?
> 
> My SB16 didn't work, first time.

Oh, it didn't, did it? (gr?)

And how long ago was that? The SB16 was one of the first soundcards to
be supported by Linux.
 
> My ESS Allegro does not work now - no drivers.
> 
> Your version of ALWAYS is in reality MAYBE.

And so is your version of INTELLIGENCE. (another flame, great isn't
it!)
 
> >Word class?! You mean Mightgosoft Orifice?! Dude! Do you ever write
> >anything that's more than one page? Try inserting a picture and see
> >what happens to the rest of your text!
> 
> If you mean Microsoft Office, the text moves around it. Your problem?

Yeah, see what happens to the layout on the pages after it.
 
> --
> Pete Goodwin
> ---
> Coming soon, Kylix, Delphi on Linux.
> My success does not require the destruction of Microsoft.

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From: Cihl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LINUX, OF COURSE!!
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 09:28:09 GMT

Pete Goodwin wrote:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthew Gardiner) wrote in
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> >sonny, the detection of your hardware is dependent on the distribution
> >you intend to install and what kernel is being installed.  I have
> >Caldera eDesktop and it detected my TNT2 Card and SB16 with out any
> >problems.  So what are you harping on about?
> 
> Linux Mandrake detected my SB16 but it failed to install or work. Linux
> Mandrake detected my ESS Allegro but indicated there were no drivers. The
> poster was saying ALL sound cards were supported - not true!

Yes they are. Look harder. Have you tried ALSA? Even the Yamaha
soundcards are supported now.

Petey GoodWindows is a troll! Na, na, nana, na. And i am not. I speak
the Truth (like in Star Wars).
 
> --
> Pete Goodwin
> ---
> Coming soon, Kylix, Delphi on Linux.
> My success does not require the destruction of Microsoft.

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian
Subject: Re: Aaron-Kulkis-Style Conspiracy about Linux
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 05:32:59 -0400

Loren Petrich wrote:
> 
>         Mr. Kulkis's favorite Communist conspiracy theories make me wonder
> if Linux is also the result of a Communist conspiracy. Here goes:
> 
> * Open source is a Communist approach toward software development, because
> it works by treating software as collective rather than private property
> with access and use fees.

Actually, this is called "Freedom of Association", a First Amendment
right that is not recognized in Communist countries.

>                           In fact, some elements of the open-source
> movement advocate collectivization of *all* software; Richard Stallman
> regards "software hoarders" as not much different from Kulaks.

Yes, Stallman is a leftist.

> 
> One problem with open-source development is how to finance it, since it
> cannot be financed in normal capitalist fashion. However, Communist agents
> of influence could be doing the financing. And why that?  Remember that
> "the capitalists would sell the rope that the Communists would use to hang
> them." By underselling private software, the Communists hope to put the
> private-software industry out of business, thus reducing resistance to
> their next advances.

Actually, a lot of the programmers do it for professional recognition
and social status.  It's similar to getting an education...you
make a sacrifice now to reap large rewards later.  The best part
about participating in Linux is that nobody charges you fees
for credit-hours.

> 
> * Linus Torvalds is a key figure in Linux. And he comes from Finland,
> which is right next door to Russia. This means that Communist agents could
> have had an easy time recruiting a figurehead for their attempts to
> subvert the software industry. And they evidently made a *very* good
> choice.

Actually, Linux has been a very good demonstration of why we
always need FREE MARKETS that are never totally dominated by
any one company (which leads to right-wing socialism)


> 
> * Sometimes, it must be said, the Communists give themselves away.
> Consider Linux distributor Red Hat. Why a _red_ hat? Could they be
> inadvertently giving away that they are a Communist front?

Clever, funny even, but ... Red Hat is a publicly traded
company on the NASDAQ exchange.....rather capitalistic if
you ask me (taking cheap raw materials and resources and
turning out a high quality product which the public is willing
to pay them a handsome profit, while not coercing the purchaser
in any way).

> 
> * Linux has made impressive advances in the server market. Success in the
> server market has shown the depth of the Communists' strategic thinking,
> because these are critical parts of computer networks, and controlling
> these will only help the Communists make further advances.

Advancing capitalism.  See previous paragraph.

> 
>         This may seem totally absurd, but this can't be much more
> absurd than Mr. Kulkis's conspiracy theories.

They aren't MY theories...they are the the observations of
people far more informed than you and I; namely, defectors
from the Soviet military and the KGB.


> --
> Loren Petrich                           Happiness is a fast Macintosh
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]                      And a fast train
> My home page: http://www.petrich.com/home.html


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642

I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

J: Loren's Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.

C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
   sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
   that she doesn't like.
 
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.

E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (D) above.

F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
   response until their behavior improves.

G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

H:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: Cihl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE2 Yahooo!!!
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 09:38:34 GMT

Rich C wrote:
> 
> "Cihl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, I was goofing around with KDE2beta3 on a test machine and WOW, now
> > > its running on my desktop. The KDE2 team is doing a GREAT job. I already
> > > like the Koffice better than StarOffice or Corel. Much better support
> > > for Gnome apps.... I'm looking forward to playing and getting to know
> > > the new features!!!
> > >
> > > Konqueror! YES!
> > >
> > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > > Before you buy.
> >
> > I've tried the Caldera LTP and the Red Hat 7.0 preview.
> >
> > On LTP, KDE2 was a built from somewhere in may. It couldn't even draw
> > the screen correctly. All broken lines and shifted borders and bad
> > maximizing (MANDATORY). And if i would as much as POINT at it i'd get
> > a core-dump window. (Which is quite nice in itself, considering that
> > KDE1 doesn't have one at all. It just closes)
> 
> Beta 3 is an equivalent jump forward from beta 2 as beta 2 is from beta 1.
> It never dumped on me at all, just was really slow and would hang,
> presumably because of my qtlib funnies (see elsewhere in this thread.) The
> Kmail client DID core dump on me though, even just letting it sit there.
> Needs a little work there.

Equivalent jump from beta 2 to beta 3? When you extrapolate that to
the final, then i'd say KDE2 is gonna RULE! I sure hope so, the looks
really kick ass! (to use some US sayings)

> >
> > And i've seen KOffice too. It's indeed very nice. KWord comes across
> > to me more like a DTP-package than a standard word processor, like
> > WordPerfect. These packages are very fast to start up and operate,
> > too.
> 
> I'm looking forward to playing with it.

It'll be in the shops by september/october, i'm sure. :)
 
> >
> > On the Red Hat 7.0 preview was KDE2beta2 (or, at least, i think). Now
> > that one was MUCH better. It drew all the widgets correctly (phew). It
> > was WAY faster and wouldn't bomb nearly as much. But logging in was
> > considerably slower than the previous one. :(
> >
> > I hope they get it completely (or mostly) stabilized for the final
> > release. Logging in should really be a lot faster than it is now. (or,
> > was, in at least beta2)
> > And i hope that with Konqueror, the Linux community finally gets a
> > good web-browser. (I haven't tried Galeon yet, is that one any good?)
> >
> > I really like how you can customize certain important parts of the
> > Linux-system in these new releases. It'll surely make transition frmo
> > another OS much easier. KDE2 also certainly LOOKS a lot better than
> > KDE1. That was really all the KDE users still needed; the good looks.
> > :)
> 
> I never had a problem with how KDE1 looked. KDE2 seems infinitely
> customizable, much moreso than KDE1. I really don't care, I just want it to
> run fast and be easy to configure and be stable. That's all :o) KDE1 was all
> that for me. I just hope I don't have to throw more silicon at my Linux
> machine just to run KDE. If that happens, I'll go back to WindowMaker.

I sure hope KDE2 is MORE stable than KDE1. Try selecting a full
directory of pictures and opening them with KView. Ouch! (I know it's
stupid, but i thought i'd get a slideshow)
I did notice that Konqueror does a MUCH better job at showing a large
directory than KFM. It just -snaps- open. Way cool! I also like the
thumbnail view. I tend to make large webpages, and it's nice to know
immediately which picture to use, instead of opening them one at a
time first.

> --
> Rich C.
> "Because light travels faster than sound, many people appear to be
> intelligent, until you hear them speak."

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dennis SCP)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Quick Time (was:Yeah!  Bring down da' man!)
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 11:39:52 +0200

Lars Tr�ger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >  Apple's QuickTime has a particuarly stupid UI. It features a "draw"
> 
> Nitpick: it's the QT Movie Player, not QuickTime. QT has no UI, just an
> API.

It does have an UI which shows up when you play interactive CD's for
instance. It's a small bar with controls and pop-up's depending on which
API calls were made. You can also see it in the QT Plug-in in your
browser. It does not have a drawer. BTW S. Jobs said he hated the drawer
and it will not show up in the Mac OS X version of the player.
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