Linux-Advocacy Digest #264, Volume #28 Sun, 6 Aug 00 13:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: AARON KULKIS...USENET SPAMMER, LIAR, AND THUG (Rauni)
Re: Linux code going down hill (Sean LeBlanc)
Re: Richard Stallman's Politics (was: Linux is awesome! (Isaac)
Re: Sun revenues up WHOPPING 42% !!! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: AARON KULKIS...USENET SPAMMER, LIAR, AND THUG ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: AARON KULKIS...USENET SPAMMER, LIAR, AND THUG ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: AARON KULKIS...USENET SPAMMER, LIAR, AND THUG ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: I'm curious ("Nick")
Re: ATTN: REX BALLARD: Microsoft's contracts not volountary ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: ATTN: REX BALLARD: Microsoft's contracts not volountary ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: Rauni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Subject: Re: AARON KULKIS...USENET SPAMMER, LIAR, AND THUG
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 09:16:00 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 06 Aug 2000 12:01:59 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 05 Aug 2000 13:36:22 -0700, Arthur Frain wrote:
>> >Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sat, 05 Aug 2000 04:07:51 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>> >> >Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>> >
>> >> >None of the critics have EVER pointed out any particular
>> >> >assertion in the book which they disagree with.
>> >
>> >http://www.srv.net/~msdata/bell.html is a pretty
>> >good analysis by a very good statistician which
>> >makes no claims about The Bell Curve either way,
>> >but does use correct statistical analysis to
>> >demonstrate the sloppy and erroneous analysis The
>> >Bell Curve is based on.
>>
>> Thanks for the info. This comes as no surprise to me -- usually, these
>> kinds of heavily loaded "meta-studies" are little more than a thinly
>> vieled attempt to support a manifesto by selectively choosing studies
>> that appear to support their claims, and either disregarding or
>> misinterpreting those that do not.
>
>Check my reply to Arthur.
>
>Claudia's claims of skewed data are.. at best outrageous speculation.
>
>>
>> >> Actually, most of the specifics of complaints raised regarding
>> >> racism seem a tad weak.
>> >
>> >The following article never refers to "racism":
>> >http://slate.msn.com/Features/BellCurve/BellCurve.asp
>>
>> I'll take a look at it.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> --
>> Donovan
Heaven forbid that we confuse Aaron with facts.
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Subject: Re: Linux code going down hill
From: Sean LeBlanc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 16:18:54 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (abraxas) writes:
> Sean LeBlanc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Or make.
> >
>
> Actually, it doest come with make. Its in /usr/ccs/bin.
>
> This is what happens when you come to believe that GNU *is* UNIX.
>
> Gnu is Not Unix. Neither is Linux. You are using a UNIX-*like*
> operating system, but there are quite alot of very important
> differences between linux (such as utter reliance on GNU code)
> and UNIX.
Well, make was NOT installed on the installations I've seen...it may
have been on one of the Sun package discs; it was too much bother to
check.
So I installed GNU make.
I see on sunfreesoftware.com that they say make is installed with
Solaris 8, perhaps you were thinking of that? I'm talking about
Solaris 2.4 and 2.6.
And I did not "come to believe that GNU *is* UNIX"...I've used Solaris
before I ever even heard of Linux.
Regardless whether it is truly "UNIX" (whatever that means) or *nix,
find / -name make -print still works the same, does it not?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Isaac)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Richard Stallman's Politics (was: Linux is awesome!
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 16:19:51 GMT
On Sun, 6 Aug 2000 10:52:39 -0400, Austin Ziegler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
< I said>
>>> You don't accept the final premise, but I don't see any need to push
>>> you over the last hurdle. It wouldn't be necessary for someone with
>>> who is familiar with the technical details of plug-ins and libraries
>>> to accept that there problem with the argument lies elsewhere.
< Max noted >
>> I'm not sure at all what you meant to say, perhaps merely because of a
>> couple small grammatically errors.
>
>Isaac didn't make any errors here.
>
Sure I did! I used "there" instead of "the" and I stuck an extra
"with" in the sentence. Also my sentences are generally way to
very readily digested. While I think my meaning was obvious, I did
screw up, so I won't blame Max for my errors.
You did a good job of clearing things up so that there shouldn't be any
possibility of doubt about what I meant. If I would just remember that
you and Lee are reading Max's stuff I could resist the temptation to post
so much.
Isaac
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Sun revenues up WHOPPING 42% !!!
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 16:20:03 GMT
Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Loren Petrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> : Back to the main subject, some news stories have considered it odd
> : that Sun has been so successful while bucking the trend to
> : Microsoftization of the last few years. However, the rise of Linux
> I think why Sun is being friendly to Linux is that Linux helps build
> user's UNIX familiarity. Linux programmers can become Sun programmers
> with little training. Linux users can become Sun users with little
And also Sun wants to chisel away at Microsoft's marketshare,
and loosen up the market. What you say makes sense to me also..
-Phil C.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Subject: Re: AARON KULKIS...USENET SPAMMER, LIAR, AND THUG
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 12:26:35 -0400
Arthur Frain wrote:
>
> Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 05 Aug 2000 04:07:51 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> > >Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>
> > >None of the critics have EVER pointed out any particular
> > >assertion in the book which they disagree with.
>
> http://www.srv.net/~msdata/bell.html is a pretty
> good analysis by a very good statistician which
> makes no claims about The Bell Curve either way,
> but does use correct statistical analysis to
> demonstrate the sloppy and erroneous analysis The
> Bell Curve is based on.
>
> > >They just
> > >brand it as "racist" in an effort to make it a taboo item.
> > >Apparently, the manipulation worked on you.
>
> > Actually, most of the specifics of complaints raised regarding
> > racism seem a tad weak.
>
> The following article never refers to "racism":
> http://slate.msn.com/Features/BellCurve/BellCurve.asp
> (Be sure to read the "Case Studies"
> which go into specifics)
Ah, I tried it again, and this time, the text came up.
> "The Bell Curve, it turns out, is full of
> mistakes ranging from sloppy reasoning to
> mis-citations of sources to outright
> mathematical errors. Unsurprisingly, all
> the mistakes are in the direction of
> supporting the authors' thesis."
Very interesting assertion...yet, the author doesn't provide
any supporting argument.
In case study one, he disputes the methods...claiming that
a mean IQ for 117 vs. a mean IQ of 121 for a group of students
is a "significant" difference.
Sorry, no, 4 IQ points is *NOT* very significant.
>
> Arthur
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren's Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Subject: Re: AARON KULKIS...USENET SPAMMER, LIAR, AND THUG
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 12:28:00 -0400
Ed Cogburn wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > What would be far fairest of all would be if everyone paid the same
> > DOLLAR AMOUNT in taxes, REGARDLESS of income.
>
> Everyone paying the same dollar amount would require the gov to
> drastically raise the taxes just to get the same amount of revenue it
> gets now. That would decimate the lower income people while giving
> the rich a free ride. That realization is what chilled the idea of a
> flat tax.
You ignore the fact that I have REPEATEDLY said that this must
be done in conjunction with a SALES TAX.
>
> As for the lower income using more public resources, that's
> bullshit. The entire working poor class is making less money by
> working than they could by going on the gov dole, yet most continue to
> choose working, rather than ask the gov for help.
>
> You're a representative of the rich, Aaron, folks who don't give a
> damn about anyone else, that's very clear.
>
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--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren's Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Subject: Re: AARON KULKIS...USENET SPAMMER, LIAR, AND THUG
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 12:32:34 -0400
Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>
> On Sat, 05 Aug 2000 04:07:51 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> >Name one.
>
> It's 125 to be precise.
> http://www.moshplant.com/prob/prob02/wild_scientists.html
>
> That'd mean that compared to me and most of my friends, he's dead last.
> What a dolt, huh ?
Who administered any test which would be a public record, available
for someone to look up?
...ah yes...the army.
Feynman specifically sandbagged on his army entrance examinations
so that they would not accept him.
Thus, the result is not in the least bit surprising...
nor, in any way....trustworthy.
>
> (-;
> --
> Donovan
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren's Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Nick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: I'm curious
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 16:43:07 GMT
"Cihl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> How do you find time to write such stupid responses, anyway?
Probably in the same manner you find time to read them.
Nick
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,soc.singles,alt.society.anarchy,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: ATTN: REX BALLARD: Microsoft's contracts not volountary
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 12:55:44 -0400
Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>
> On Sat, 05 Aug 2000 05:53:09 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> >Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>
> >Employees have the right to find a new job at any time with
> >very little repercussion.
>
> In the interim, they have no health insurance and no income.
1. Cobra
2. So? Why should you have an income if you're not working?
3. What prevents you from looking for a job BEFORE leaving your
current employer?
>
> >In case you haven't noticed....Businesses compete for employees.
>
> This one cuts both ways, and depends primarily on the state of the
> market. If there's an employee shortage, the businesses must compete.
> If there's a job shortage, the employees have to compete.
That's life.
Who cries for the employers when there is a worker shortage???
>
> >> I'm sure Rex would be willing and able to submit an argument that Microsoft's
> >> business dealings fail the "voluntary test", but Rex will probably not try
> >> to simoultaneously defend a political system where the type of coercion
> >> you are complaining about becomes commonplace.
> >
> >Capitalism is not a political system...it is an economic system.
>
> What you're advocating is more like industrial feudalism.
>
Correctoin: SOCIALISM is feudalism.
Capitalism is economic freedom...FOR EVERYBODY.
> --
> Donovan
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren's Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,soc.singles,alt.society.anarchy,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: ATTN: REX BALLARD: Microsoft's contracts not volountary
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 12:55:44 -0400
Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>
> On Sat, 05 Aug 2000 05:53:09 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> >Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>
> >Employees have the right to find a new job at any time with
> >very little repercussion.
>
> In the interim, they have no health insurance and no income.
1. Cobra
2. So? Why should you have an income if you're not working?
3. What prevents you from looking for a job BEFORE leaving your
current employer?
>
> >In case you haven't noticed....Businesses compete for employees.
>
> This one cuts both ways, and depends primarily on the state of the
> market. If there's an employee shortage, the businesses must compete.
> If there's a job shortage, the employees have to compete.
That's life.
Who cries for the employers when there is a worker shortage???
>
> >> I'm sure Rex would be willing and able to submit an argument that Microsoft's
> >> business dealings fail the "voluntary test", but Rex will probably not try
> >> to simoultaneously defend a political system where the type of coercion
> >> you are complaining about becomes commonplace.
> >
> >Capitalism is not a political system...it is an economic system.
>
> What you're advocating is more like industrial feudalism.
>
Correctoin: SOCIALISM is feudalism.
Capitalism is economic freedom...FOR EVERYBODY.
> --
> Donovan
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren's Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
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