Linux-Advocacy Digest #647, Volume #28           Sat, 26 Aug 00 11:13:05 EDT

Contents:
  Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) (david 
raoul derbes)
  Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? (Joe Ragosta)
  Which Lunix should I try with a NOTEBOOK and Cardbus cards for Ethernet, Token Ring, 
Modem, SCSI ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? (Joe Ragosta)
  Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) (david 
raoul derbes)
  Re: I can't believe how big this troll thread has gotten... ("Shocktrooper")
  Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? ("Shocktrooper")
  Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? (Joe Ragosta)
  Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? (Joe Ragosta)
  Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? (Joe Ragosta)
  Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? (Joe Ragosta)
  Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? (Joe Ragosta)
  Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? (Joe Ragosta)
  Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? (Joe Ragosta)
  Re: Enemies of Linux are MS Lovers (Witold Wilk)
  Re: Linux programmers dont live on this planet! ("Nigel Feltham")
  Re: Switch to NT? ("Nigel Feltham")

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Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (david raoul derbes)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 13:53:20 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Forrest Gehrke  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>david raoul derbes wrote:
>
>> And yet, I think that we need the inheritance tax. Those who think the
>> inheritance tax is some sort of wicked thing should perhaps read
>> Thomas Jefferson and James Madison on the subject.
>>
>> David Derbes [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
>At the top tax rate of 55% which is applied very quickly at the level
>of  an Iowa  family farm valuation , or an average small business
>this is confiscation.  I doubt Jefferson or Madison can be found to
>back you up--particularly Jefferson who believed
>in a non-industrial agrarian America.  Your own example is proof
>of this confiscatory tax rate.

Hi, Forrest. 

What I meant is that both Jefferson and Madison were concerned about 
America growing its own aristocracy in the form of inherited wealth.
Certainly you're right that Jefferson wanted America to stay a land
of farmers. I'd like that, too; the family farmers in Arkansas, at
any rate, are an endangered species. (We get another drought next
year, there will be extremely unpleasant consequences for most of
us who eat. That would make it four bad years in a row. Shades
of Joseph!)

Notwithstanding the very large tax bill, my mom was able to pay it
off. 

Please don't think I like paying taxes. I do, however, see them as
a necessary evil. And better my family pays the inheritance tax
which we can afford, than somebody else goes without a meal, a
roof, a doctor, or we all go without an army, highways, air 
traffic controllers, the FDA, etc etc.

For us, the farm is not our main business (though it certainly is
for the brave, strong men who till the land, to whom we'd like to
sell the farm.) Most people recognize that small businessmen and 
family farmers are unfairly treated by the current tax laws, and
I think that whoever is elected, some sort of tax relief for these
folk will be coming. Well, I can hope.

David Derbes [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

>//
>  Forrest Gehrke
>



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From: Joe Ragosta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 13:53:34 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

> Said Joe Ragosta in comp.os.linux.advocacy; 
>    [...]
> >Well, let's see.
> >
> >I grew up with 10 brothers and sisters. There were times when we barely 
> >had enough to eat and new clothes were a rare treat. We never received a 
> >penny of welfare.
> >
> >I went to school in a particularly bad rural school in Western 
> >Pennsylvania.
> >
> >Yet I managed to get a scholarship and loans for Penn State, worked my 
> >way through school, got into graduate school at Cornell, progressed 
> >through several jobs of increasing responsibility and ended up as 
> >President of a small company where I'm making quite a lot of money 
> >(certainly far more than the level that Democrats consider wealthy, 
> >although I think their cutoff is way too low).
> >
> >So what part of the things you cited is impossible?
> 
> This rampant "personal circumstance" bullshit is driving me crazy.  

Only because you have a problem with facts.

If the previous poster (who I see you've conveniently trimmed) had said 
it was _difficult_ to get ahead, I'd probably have agreed.

But they said it was impossible. All it takes is a single counter 
example to refute that.

-- 
Regards,

Joe Ragosta

http://home.earthlink.net/~jragosta/complmac.htm

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Which Lunix should I try with a NOTEBOOK and Cardbus cards for Ethernet, 
Token Ring, Modem, SCSI
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 13:55:12 GMT

I have a notebook with 2 hard drives (11 gig) and use Cardbus cards for Token
Ring, Modem, SCSI and Ethernet access.  Also have a Yamaha CD-RW, Nikon
Coolscan III, Scanner using USB, a USB printer, etc.  96 megs of RAM.

Which Linux will install easiest for the above environment AND coexist with
Win98 or WinME?

HELP

Bob


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From: Joe Ragosta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 13:55:58 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:


> 
> And with that understanding, I entirely agree.  Normally a large market
> share *can* be considered monopolization, as there is no other way to
> get large market share in a competitive market.  

That's most certainly not true.

A large enough market share (>90% typically) can be considered a 
monopoly.

But to say that there's no way to get that large a share in a 
competitive market is just plain wrong.

-- 
Regards,

Joe Ragosta

http://home.earthlink.net/~jragosta/complmac.htm

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Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (david raoul derbes)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 13:58:33 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Eric Bennett  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Courageous 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> > I'd rather see them starve to death before they start doing damage.
>> 
>> You are a hazard to the liberatarian party. With adherents
>> like you, it's no wonder our support is so low.
>> 
>
>
>Maybe you can get him to join the Reform Party.  (Hey, it helped the 
>Republicans get rid of Buchanan...)

Dammit, Eric, would you *please* not post these things where I might
read them early in the morning? I nearly choked on my coffee with
laughter.

Hey, how about putting somthing like this at the top: 

WARNING: THE FOLLOWING POST MAY MAKE YOU LAUGH. DO NOT 
ATTEMPT TO EAT OR DRINK WHILE READING. IT MAY PROVE HAZARDOUS.

David Derbes [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

>-- 
>Eric Bennett ( http://www.pobox.com/~ericb/ ) 
>Cornell University / Chemistry & Chemical Biology



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From: "Shocktrooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.sys.be.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: I can't believe how big this troll thread has gotten...
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 13:58:50 GMT


"Incbe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Shocktrooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> >"David T. Wang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
>news:8o1id2$2vk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> Chad Irby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> : "David T. Wang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> :> Chad Irby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> :>
> >> :> : You're also comparing the *old* G4 to the current ones (which use
> >> :> : smaller process sizes and lower voltages), so the G4+ cache is pretty
> >> :> : low-wattage even with the cache.
> >> :>
> >> :> There is no G4+. AFAIK, there's only 1 G4 since release, all using
> >> :> the same Vdd @ 1.8V, there's a push spec which uses the higher 2.15V
> >> :> supply, and the first rev 450 MHz apprently used both.  I'm still
> >> :> uncertain if the current 500 MHz parts use 1.8V or 2.15V, but the 400 MHz
> >> :> version has used the 1.8V since day one.
> >>
> >> : Motorola came out with at least one updated version of the G4, which
> >> : uses less power.  They don't have a PDF on the site, but there was
> >> : mention of it in some of the Mac sites a while back (as a "by the way"
> >> : sort of thing).
> >>
> >> Unfortunately I can give no credence to something mentioned only in
> >> brief passing on some web site, when the datasheets themselves make no
> >> mention of it.
> >
> >Especially if its Chad who is claiming it..
> >
>
> Making shit up is always worth a shot. You never know when some moron
> will buy it hook, line, and sinker. 'Tis written in the scrolls of
> usenet.

Indeed. The best is when you then claim to have evidence.. but you don't wish to waste 
your time giving it out.. Joe is the master
on this newsgroup of this tactic.. ;-)







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From: "Shocktrooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 13:58:56 GMT


"ZnU" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Joe
> Ragosta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ZnU
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "JS/PL"
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > "ZnU" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > >
> > > > > I'm certainly for reforming the system. But starving it for cash is
> > > > > _not_ the way to do that.
> > > >
> > > > It's the only way to do it. You call it "starving it for cash" others
> > > > call
> > > > it reducing government waste. A businessman would be in prison if he
> > > > mismanaged his finances as poorly as government does.
> > >
> > > If you starve it to death, millions of people who have been paying in
> > > won't get anything out. That's straight-out theft.
> >
> > Actually, "theft" is a pretty good way to describe Social Security.
> >
> > The vast majority of the money you've paid in has been spent on previous
> > benefits -- it's not being saved for your retirement.
> >
> > I thought even "tax and spend"ers knew that.
>
> This really has no meaning. The money you put in a bank isn't all
> sitting there either, there's just and understanding that when you need
> it, you can get it.

So you have a deposite reciept showing ownership of your SS funds.. and that fund is 
fully insured?

There is a difference: by law, the bank has to give it back. If they go belly up, yer 
protected by the FDIC.

With SS, there is no law stating they have to give it back.  If SS goes belly up, yer 
hosed.







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From: Joe Ragosta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 14:03:16 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
Eric Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:
> 
> > >The only way the government can "improve education" is to get out of
> > >the education business.
> > 
> > The government isn't a business, and institutional education isn't a
> > profitable business, by definition.
> 
> There are lots of private universities parents can send their children 
> to.  They are organized as nonprofit organizations.  Government-run 
> institutions are not *necessary* there.  So, why should they be 
> necessary in other areas?

There are also private elementary and high schools which don't receive 
government funding.

In many cases, they provide superior education for less cost per student.

> 
> > Said JS/PL in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
> >
> > >The government cannot improve the current government provided 
> > >education,
> > >only competition in a free market can "improve a product or service". 
> 
> But the government can be part of the free market.  My undergraduate 
> degree is from Penn State, which (1) is a public institution, (2) is 
> better than a lot of private schools, and (3) has served a *huge* number 
> of Americans, having the largest alumni association in the country.  You 
> want to tell all these people that they're not allowed to go to this 
> excellent school any more?  You want them to go to some inferior private 
> school instead?

Actually, JS/PL's position would be that if Penn State didn't exist, the 
private universities that would spring up would be less expensive and 
better.

I see libertarianism as a positive thing as long as it's a direction to 
move from the current system. As soon as we got very close to the 
Libertarian Manifesto, I'd be very concerned. But most of the time, 
that's the direction we should be going.

The trick is to know when to stop.    ;-)

-- 
Regards,

Joe Ragosta

http://home.earthlink.net/~jragosta/complmac.htm

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From: Joe Ragosta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 14:06:29 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

> Said Joe Ragosta in comp.os.linux.advocacy; 
> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>    [...]
> >You're making so many absurd assumptions that it's hard to know where to 
> >start:
> 
> Am I?
> 
> >1. You assume that a temporary monopoly can't be harmful. It can.
> 
> Adam Smith say's you're wrong.

No he doesn't. Quit making things up.

> 
> >2. You assume that a permanent monopoly is definitely harmful. It may 
> >not be.
> 
> The U.S. Congress say's you're wrong.

No it doesn't. Quit making things up.

> 
> >3. You assume that high prices are prima facie evidence that a company 
> >has a monopoly. It isn't.
> 
> The U.S. Supreme Court say's you're wrong.

No it doesn't. Quit making things up.

> 
> >4. You assume that a temporary monopoly can be overcome by a free 
> >market. It may not.
> 
> Adam Smith say's you're wrong.

No he doesn't. Quit making things up.

> 
> >5. You assume that a "harmful" monopoly can not be overcome by a free 
> >market. It can.
> 
> The U.S. Congress say's you're wrong.

No it doesn't. Quit making things up.

> 
> >Your understanding of these issues hovers right around the 2nd or 3rd 
> >grade level. Perhaps if you'd concentrate on provable theories rather 
> >than insane conspiracy crap you might be more believable
> 
> I say you're wrong.

And you've already admitted in this thread that you're an expert on 
ignorance, so your opinion is pretty worthless.

-- 
Regards,

Joe Ragosta

http://home.earthlink.net/~jragosta/complmac.htm

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From: Joe Ragosta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 14:10:30 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

> Said Joe Ragosta in comp.os.linux.advocacy; 
>    [...]
> >Read what I said again. Wouldn't you expect that when the number of 
> >people needing welfare drops by 75% that there might be a reduction in 
> >government welfare expenditures?
> 
> Well, you didn't say there was a drop in the number of people "needing"
> welfare, certainly, because I would have jumped on you at the time,
> instead of waiting until now to point out how blatantly false and even
> preposterous your position is.

Most of the people dropped from the welfare rolls got jobs.

Unless I've somehow missed 10 million dead bodies on the street who 
didn't have any money to eat.

> 
> What makes you think there was any reduction at all in the number of
> people needing welfare, just because there was a 75% reduction in the
> support of public welfare?

There wasn't. That's part of the point.

The welfare rolls dropped by 75%, but the money spent dropped hardly at 
all. The government wastes every penny it can get its hands on.

-- 
Regards,

Joe Ragosta

http://home.earthlink.net/~jragosta/complmac.htm

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From: Joe Ragosta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 14:11:13 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

> Said JS/PL in comp.os.linux.advocacy; 
>    [...]
> >Your ISP seemed to have agreed with me, now didn't they. 
> 
> No, they sent me an email.  I have threatened them with legal action
> should it turn out that you did not provide them with your real name and
> identity, though obviously not much will come of an email.
> 

ROTFLMAO.

-- 
Regards,

Joe Ragosta

http://home.earthlink.net/~jragosta/complmac.htm

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From: Joe Ragosta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 14:13:35 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

> Said Joe Ragosta in comp.os.linux.advocacy; 
> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>    [...]
> >> I never said "he" is not real.  I said "JS/PL" is not real, other than
> >> as a pseudonym.
> >
> >You said "'JS/PL' isn't a real person." That's not saying that he's 
> >using a pseudonym. 
> 
> According to your interpretation, maybe.  It is equivalent of saying
> "'John Galt' isn't a real person", in my interpretation (and since I'm
> the one that said it, I have slightly more say than you in its meaning.)
> You may note that "John Galt" has posted several times to Usenet.

The "John Galt" who posts to Usenet is a real person.

The "John Galt" in Ayn Rand's novels is not.

What part of that is too complicated for you?

> 
> >I'm a real person -- no matter what I call myself. I could sign my 
> >letters "Marie Antoinette" and I wouldn't become any less real.
> 
> Goody for you.  Does that make 'Marie Antoinette' a real person?  No,
> the fact that she was a real person is what makes her a real person.
> Would you be a real person if you posted as "an imaginary character"?
> Would that make 'an imaginary character' a real person?

No. But thanks for showing your inability to think.

A person who calls himself "JS/PL" posts to usenet. You claimed that he 
wasn't a real person.

He is.

The fact that there are _some_ imaginary "people" out there doesn't 
change that fact.

> 
> >You need to learn that some people can read so you're not going to get 
> >away with nonsense like that
> 
> You need to realize that there are literally millions of people on this
> planet, and only thousands posting to Usenet.  And neither group would
> for a second consider that I actually threatened "JS/PL's" life, whoever
> he might be.

Perhaps.

But that's not the issue.

All I said was that if he felt threatened, he had every right to 
complain. If your words were not a threat, you'll be vindicated. But 
that doesn't remove his right to complain.

-- 
Regards,

Joe Ragosta

http://home.earthlink.net/~jragosta/complmac.htm

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From: Joe Ragosta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 14:15:22 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

> Said Joe Ragosta in comp.os.linux.advocacy; 
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gregory L. Hansen) wrote:
> >> Joe Ragosta  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>    [...]
> >> Doesn't that 5% also control more than 90% of the wealth?
> >
> >
> >Probably.
> >
> >But the point is that even with the Bush tax cuts, they're still paying 
> >a vastly higher percentage of their income in taxes than the poor or 
> >middle class.
> 
> The point is that they should, and they aren't even paying anywhere near
> as much as their tax bracket base percentage indicates, while the middle
> and lower income people generally do.

ROTFLMAO.

I used to be squarely in the middle class and comfortably in the "21%" 
bracket. I actually paid about 5% of my income in income taxes due to 
deductions.

Now, I'm in the 39.6 bracket and pay a much, much higher percentage -- 
closer to 25% for federal income tax alone.

But don't let the facts confuse you.

-- 
Regards,

Joe Ragosta

http://home.earthlink.net/~jragosta/complmac.htm

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From: Joe Ragosta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 14:16:19 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

> Said JS/PL in comp.os.linux.advocacy; 
> >"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> Considering they're still getting richer, and the poor are still 
> >> getting
> >> poorer, I fail to see why this would be so.
> >>
> >> >You have to make something like $20 to 30 K before you pay any taxes.
> >> >Meanwhile, I'm paying 50% of my income in taxes (all taxes combined).
> >> >
> >> >That's an absurd difference.
> >>
> >> Maybe from your perspective.  Try living on $24,000 a year with a 
> >> family
> >> of 3.
> >
> >Who's fault is that?
> 
> I don't assign fault.

No. You just give money away without doing anything about the real 
problem.

-- 
Regards,

Joe Ragosta

http://home.earthlink.net/~jragosta/complmac.htm

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From: Witold Wilk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.microsoft.sucks,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Enemies of Linux are MS Lovers
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 16:31:13 +0200

W swoim poscie napisanym do alt.microsoft.sucks w dniu Fri, 25 Aug 2000 
12:07:32 GMT niejaki(a) Chris Ahlstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED]=- twierdzi, 
ze...
: 
: > >W2K is perfectly stabile. It even bloes NT4 out of teh watter.
: 
: No, it is very possible to get the Blue Screen on Win 2000.
: A guy at work did it.

But did he that on Linux? ;)

: And it's an enormous memory hog.

Not enormous, even greater. It runs slow on a PIII600MHz/256RAM/Seagate 
Barracuda. Jezus Cryst - this system is the biggest pile of crap I've 
ever seen ;) Win9x is better than that :) Not speaking of penguin 
systems ;)

-- 
   <---==== Witold "ManiacK" Wilk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ====--->
   <---==== UIN 65665716.........IRC #tychy (ManiacK) ====--->
To ludzka rzecz okradac -TP S.A.- Niech laczy nas za coraz wiecej!
Last of communism on Earth - TP S.A. (Telekomunikacja Polska S.A.)

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From: "Nigel Feltham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux programmers dont live on this planet!
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 16:00:46 +0100

>
>Linux is for UNIX geeks to have fun.
>


And for people who want to run things like CDR Drives on low-end hardware.
Under Linux a 2x speed CD-RW drive on an old P90 can record a CD with the
buffer rarely dropping below 95% full. With the same hardware under win95 or
NT the buffer drops to under 20% full for most of the recording process,
often dropping to 5% full or less, coming dangerously close to trashing the
Disk. I have switched from Win95 to Linux at work on our CD recording PC for
this reason.
And this is when running under KDE, one of the largest window-managers
available for Linux, using a different window manager seems to make almost
no difference to cd writing reliability.






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From: "Nigel Feltham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Switch to NT?
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 16:04:10 +0100


Raul Iglesias wrote in message <2%Mp5.75$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Less than 4 months you will be able to use ABIWord, GNUmeric
>and KOffice perfectly on Linux workstations.
>


You can already use Abiword and Gnumeric (at least they are in Mandrake 7.1
which I use).

You can also use part of KOffice if you manage to install the Beta Release
of KDE2.0 ( I think the latest beta is called 1.91 ).





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