Linux-Advocacy Digest #647, Volume #30 Mon, 4 Dec 00 15:13:06 EST
Contents:
Re: SV: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Windows 2000 sucks compared to linux (Matthew Soltysiak)
Re: Linux is awful ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: how come Dell makes you buy Windows with all their PC's? (Ken Arromdee)
Re: how come Dell makes you buy Windows with all their PC's? (jtnews)
Re: Windows 2000 sucks compared to linux (.)
Re: Linux is awful ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: Red hat becoming illegal? (.)
Re: OS tree - SOUND OFF! (Steve Mentzer)
Re: Red hat becoming illegal? (.)
Re: how come Dell makes you buy Windows with all their cheap PC's? (Donovan Rebbechi)
Re: [OT] Gore & Bush ("Quantum Leaper")
Re: OS tree - SOUND OFF! (Steve Mentzer)
Re: OS Sound OFF. ("James")
Re: Linux is awful (I R A Darth Aggie)
Re: OS tree - SOUND OFF! (Craig Kelley)
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: SV: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 12:14:55 -0500
Eduardo Samaniego wrote:
>
> What is the matter with microsoft!?
They are a criminal organization run by a megalomaniac.
Does that clear it up for you?
>
> T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skrev i
> diskussionsgruppsmeddelandet:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Said Ayende Rahien in alt.destroy.microsoft on Fri, 1 Dec 2000 02:56:54
> > >"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > [...]
> > >> >In logic or sophistry, 2 wrongs can make a right.
> > >>
> > >> Oh? Does that mean that two rights make a wrong?
> > >
> > >In some languages, two negatives makes positive, in others, three
> negatives
> > >makes negative, but in no language two positives makes negative.
> > >YEAH RIGHT!
> >
> > <*grin*>
> >
> > --
> > T. Max Devlin
> > *** The best way to convince another is
> > to state your case moderately and
> > accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
> >
> > Sign the petition and keep Deja's archive alive!
> > http://www2.PetitionOnline.com/dejanews/petition.html
> >
> >
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--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: Matthew Soltysiak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 sucks compared to linux
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 17:36:45 GMT
kiwiunixman wrote:
> <snip>
> > Or you can just get a real OS with a real windowing and display system
> > that support advanced font rendering, color correction, aliasing or anti-,
> > etc.
> >
> > -Chad
>
> or chad, you could go and fuck yourself and your winbox.
>
> kiwiunixman
So....anything else you like to add? Childish name calling and cussing isn't
gonna get you anywhere. You should realize that, newbie.
--
Matthew Soltysiak
Comp Sci/Soft Eng
ICQ: 3063118
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux is awful
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 17:58:37 GMT
In comp.os.linux.x Ayende Rahien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: First thing should be to call the store that sold you the hardware, and ask
: them about it. The second thing to do was to go to the web and ask questions
: about it.
The original poster that he was replying to was talking about how great
the M$ Windows help files were, though.
I agree with you, but there is no reason a Linux (or any other OS) user
couldn't do this.
--
Jeff Gentry [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"You're one of those condescending UNIX users! ...."
"Here's a nickel kid ... get yourself a real computer."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Arromdee)
Subject: Re: how come Dell makes you buy Windows with all their PC's?
Date: 4 Dec 2000 18:13:31 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
jtnews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>that's interesting but I need a CD-RW drive.
I just bought a Cendyne internal 6x4x32 at CompUSA. It was $120 with a
$40 rebate, for a net price of $80. There were plenty on the shelf (they
were all mispriced at $180, but the price rang up properly.) And it works
fine with Linux.
--
Ken Arromdee / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / http://www.rahul.net/arromdee
"Eventually all companies are replaced." --Bill Gates, October 1999
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Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 13:34:43 -0500
From: jtnews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how come Dell makes you buy Windows with all their PC's?
You have to watch those rebates.
I applied for my linksys rebate back in October from onvia.com
for buying their linksys 10/100 PCI card and their 10/100 hub and still
haven't gotten anything yet!
I hope I didn't get ripped off by them.
Ken Arromdee wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> jtnews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >that's interesting but I need a CD-RW drive.
>
> I just bought a Cendyne internal 6x4x32 at CompUSA. It was $120 with a
> $40 rebate, for a net price of $80. There were plenty on the shelf (they
> were all mispriced at $180, but the price rang up properly.) And it works
> fine with Linux.
> --
> Ken Arromdee / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / http://www.rahul.net/arromdee
>
> "Eventually all companies are replaced." --Bill Gates, October 1999
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 sucks compared to linux
Date: 4 Dec 2000 18:35:39 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Or you can just get a real OS with a real windowing and display system
> that support advanced font rendering, color correction, aliasing or anti-,
> etc.
Neat chad, I didnt know you used openstep/macX. Thank god youre away from
windows though.
=====.
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is awful
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 12:41:26 -0600
"Adam Short" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:5mMW5.42$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I wonder why they are so lazy that they can't put a simple warning box.
>
> Do Microsoft warn you that installing Windows will overwrite the MBR,
making
> Windows the only bootable OS? Do they hell! Plus the Windows setup routine
> doesn't even ask about partitions. Unless you've used fdisk yourself
> beforehand to sort out the partitioning, Windows will just sprawl into all
> available space. No warnings about that one either. Just a little message
> that helpfully tells you that the hard drive is being formatted for your
> pleasure and delectation.
The Windows 9x setup doesn't format your partition. You must have a
pre-formated one.
Removing the MBR isn't the same as deleting all your partitions. You can
restore the MBR without losing any data, you can't just recover all your
deleted data.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: 4 Dec 2000 18:40:57 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Chris Ahlstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Chad Myers wrote:
>> >
>> > The sad part is, the legal system WAS designed to handle crybaby losers
>> > like Gore, however, the Gore lawyers, the almost entirely Democrat
>> > controlled election system in Florida, and 7 Democratic activists -- er
>> > -- FL Supreme Court Justices managed to ursurp the Constitutional election
>> > power from the FL legislature and make a mockery of the Rule of Law.
>> >
>> > But then, this is nothing new for the Democrats, take the Impeachment.
>> > Clinton and Gore are bullet proof. Laws do not apply to them, so they
>> > can bend it and stretch it to however they see fit. It's unfortunate
>> > that there are so many willing accomplices willing to throw conscience
>> > to the wind and do whatever he says no matter the Constitutional
>> > ramifications.
>> >
>> > The really, really sad part is, the American public is too ignorant to
>> > understand it, let alone get angered about it. A large portion of them
>> > think Hilary is right when she wants to do away with the electoral college.
>> > If it were her druthers, she'd abolish the Constitution all together.
>>
>> I'd stop listening to AM radio if I were you. Start reading newspapers.
>> Find some good history books. Start looking into the shenanigans of
>> your own party.
> Can you so blindly dismiss the truth?
> Can you not see what is going on, or what has gone on? Unfortunately, you
> are one of the ignorant Americans I was referring to. You seem fit to
> dismiss the obvious because it's not something you want to be confronted
> with. Please note I'm not attacking you personally, or calling you stupid
> or anything like that. I'm just saying that there are many people out there
> too busy to be concerned with how their government is being systematically
> overturned right under their noses.
Wow chad, you know....when I called you 'crazy' and 'stupid' all those times,
I really didnt think I was telling the truth.
But here you have shown yourself to be nothing more than an idiotic, paranoid
conspiracy theorist. I'll be nice to you now that I understand that you
really are kinda dumb and crazy.
Apologies for my past comments.
=====.
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Subject: Re: OS tree - SOUND OFF!
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Mentzer)
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 18:47:49 GMT
>
>VIC 20. A commordore based machine with 256K of ram I think.
>
Ahh, the precursor to the venerable Commodore 64 (not VIC64).
Video display was a whopping 22 columns!
Ummm... the VIC-20 had a 64k address space (the vast majority being mapped
ROM), but only 3k of usable, unextended RAM. Yes, that is right, it had only 3k
of usable RAM.
You could purchase 16k expansion board for the blasted thing, bumping the total
usable RAM up to a whopping 19k. I had the 8k expansion board.
It was quite easy to write basic programs that consumed all avaialble memory.
Aside from playing some basic video games, it was pretty much a useless
machine.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: 4 Dec 2000 18:47:12 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Chris Ahlstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Chad Myers wrote:
>> >
>> > As well they should with Daley's Chicago and all the rumors (facts rather)
>> > of corruption, voter fraud, voter intimidation, coaching, etc that cost
>> > Nixon the election.
>>
>> Where's your source on this? Where is your proof?
> Daley's iron grip of Chicago is a well known fact. If you do even some
> passive research, you will find numerous accountings of organized voter fraud
> in Chicago. Everything ranging from dead people voting, to felons, to bribing
> homeless and poor voters with cigarettes, drugs, etc.
Uhhmmm...Sweetie, I live in chicago and have for quite some time. You obviously
never have.
Ive also met the mayor on a number of occasions, and have had the opportunity to
be social and professional with people close to him politically.
While chicago is certianly corrupt for a wide variety of reasons and causes,
the ones you listed above are nothing more than a paranoid delusional fantasy.
No wonder you like windows so much, you believe everything you read, and you
do no thinking of your own at all.
=====.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Subject: Re: how come Dell makes you buy Windows with all their cheap PC's?
Date: 4 Dec 2000 18:49:45 GMT
On Mon, 04 Dec 2000 04:59:08 -0500, jtnews wrote:
>Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
Well it seems you've made up your mind, but at the same time, you've
answered all questions as to why Dell don't install Linux on their low end
PCs -- it's not because of an "evil Microsoft conspiracy", it's because
Linux users are happy to buy cheap computers with Windows preloaded, and
there isn't a great deal of demand for machines with Linux preloaded.
Dell don't have anything to lose by not preloading Linux on their low
end machines. OTOH, if they do preload Linux on poorly supported hardware,
they risk getting a lot of grief from their customers.
--
Donovan Rebbechi * http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/ *
elflord at panix dot com
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From: "Quantum Leaper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Gore & Bush
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 19:07:26 GMT
"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Stefan Ohlsson wrote:
> >
> > Bob Hauck wrote:
> > >On Sat, 02 Dec 2000 18:38:26 -0500, Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>well to be honest the legal system never thought we would have such a
> > >>crybaby loser like we have with Gore so b/c of him we are having a 30
> > >>day election instead of a 1 day election with some votes counted 5
times
> > >>and the other 95% counted once.
> > >Gore did win the popular vote nationally, so your man Bush was really
> > >the minority choice. If the tables were turned, would you be telling
> > >Bush to concede or would you be insisting that he's only taking
> > >advantage of the options available and saying that the electoral
> > >college system needs to be thrown out?
> > >
> > I'm sorry to budge in, but I just want to say what I think of this
> > and that is that it is just sad.
> >
> > Gore is afraid to lose if a recount isn't made
> > Bush is afraid to lose if a recount _is_ made.
> >
> > Why couldn't they just have done the recount and then accept the
> > result of it? Instead they act like children in a sandbox trying to get
> > votes included and excluded, recounts made and disallowed.
>
> There have been TWO recounts already.
>
> On the initial count: Bush won
> On the first recount: Bush won
> On the second recount: Bush won
>
> How many more do they need?
>
Are machines perfect? The makers of the voting machines say the is a
margin of error and the winning count falls within that range.
BTW Gore won the national election by 300,000 votes but so far is losing the
Electoral college vote.
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Subject: Re: OS tree - SOUND OFF!
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Mentzer)
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 19:13:40 GMT
Hmmm...
Commodore Vic-20
================
3k of RAM (11k with my 8k expansion board). 1Mhz 6502. 22 column screen. And
the wonderful casette recorder for storing, retrieving my important data!
on to....
Tandy TRS-80 Model III/IV
==============================
Now, I *loved* these machines. A think they had a solid 80 column screen
(albeit monochrome) and built in 5.25" SS/SD floppy drives. A think it ran on
an old Z-80 processor at 4Mhz. The old text/blockgraphic "camping adventure"
game was pretty damn cooL!
Apple IIe
=========
This computer easily transformed me from a typical video game player to a
neophyte programmer. I learned UCSD pascal on this machine, and began the long,
tedious process of studying 6502 assembly language. I had a cheap Apple III
monochrome (green) monitor and 2 5.25" disk drives (which needed constant
adjustment). I also had a MSSoftcard Z80 board which allowed me to run an early
version of Turbo Pascal.
The coolest thing I got was a 1200 baud prometheus promodem, which got me into
the BBS scene. Frankly, it changed my whole life... :)
When I finally got my color composite monitor and 64k/80column expansion board,
I was set. Appleworks, basic, assembly, pascal, etc etc etc. This thing was a
workhorse.... then I sold it to buy a ....
Apple IIgs
==========
This is the only ancient computer that I still own and *use*. My daughter loves
it. I was basically and Apple II on steroids. It had improved graphics and
sound (hence the GS), and a whole lot more memory and speed. It came stock
(rom03) with 1MB of ram, 256k of ROM, 64k of sound RAM and a whole lotta room
for growth. The original config was the ROM03 with the 256k expansion board
(bringing it up to 1.25MB RAM), 3.5" and 5.25" disk drives, imagewriter II
printer and an applecolor 12" RGB monitor.
I eventually added a 20MB hard disk, Transwarp (bringing the speed of the unit
to 7Mhz) a PCTransporter (bringing 8088/MSDOS compatibility to the box), a 2400
baud modem and a whole lotta software...
I eventually ran a BBS on the thing, hosting lots of pirate warez (lol) on a
20MB hard disk and 2400 baud modem. Our motto was "No IBM Crap". LOL.
I now run a variant of unix on the damn thing called GNO which is really quite
cool, considering that the machine had no MMU.
Mac LC
==========
Feeling good about apple computer, I purchased an LC. What a mistake. Sold it a
few months later for a loss. Bye Bye macintosh.
(long hiatus from the computer world)....
Amstrad XT compatible
=====================
I got the itch for computers (again) and chose to purchase and old amstrad from
a teacher. Cool CGA graphics and 512k of RAM (which I upgraded to 640k). I
added an 800k 3.5" floppy to complement the 20MB MFM miniscribe hardcard that
was installed.
Bought a 2400/MNP5 baud modem, opened the newspaper to find the phone number of
a local BBS (yes, they published them back then) and began my long journey back
into the digital communications world.
Home-Built 386/40Mhz
=====================
I sold the XT box to a clueless lady who just wanted a computer to run windows.
It ran windows 3.0 (not well), but it didn't matter. She liked it. She bought
it. I took the money and funneled it into a homebuilt 386/40Mhz with a whopping
2MB of RAM and a VGA board.
I ran the video into an old IBM 1302 12" color VGA monitor.
The thing ran Windows 3.1 rather well...
This is when the upgrade path started. With a standard AT case, 30 pin
RAM/SIMMs and portable components, I upgraded my way to....
Home-Built 486/66Mhz
====================
I eventually had 8MB of RAM on this box with a mitsumi 2x CDROM, and a VLBUS
SVGA video board.
I ran OS/2 2.1 and OS/2 warp on this box, rather successfully I might add.
It was around this time that I started using internet shell accounts. Lynx
and Pine were the cool things around. I was thrilled to get one email a
week. :)
Shortly thereafter, I switched to Windows NT v3.51, because internet support
was SO MUCH BETTER.
Believe it or not, I never once used Windows 9x for anything other than games.
It has always been and always will be too unstable!
Somewhere on the upgrade path, I managed to get a hold of a real old version of
slackware linux, and proceeded to install it. What a pain in the ass. The new
installers are 10000% better than those 5 years ago :)
I have been bouncing between Redhat and WinNT/2k for a couple of years now. I
current use redhat 7 (w/patches) for my firewall/router/DNS and use Win2k for
my exchange server and domain security. I have a variety of client machines
(some win98, some 2k some RH7) that I use for various purposes.
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From: "James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OS Sound OFF.
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 21:38:00 +0200
Home 1 : Win2k
Home 2 : LM7.2 - accessed thru Win2k machine using WinaXe :-)
Laptop : WinMe
Office 1 : WinNT4 (Company std)
Office 2 : Win2k
James
"Charlie Ebert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> Everybody who reads this, sound off with your OS please.
> The one your using or like the most.
>
> Then the others you use follow.
>
> Using Debian 2.3 Woody
>
> Others None.
>
> Thanks
>
> Charlie
>
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (I R A Darth Aggie)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is awful
Date: 4 Dec 2000 19:38:25 GMT
Reply-To: no-courtesy-copies-please
On Mon, 4 Dec 2000 12:45:33 +0200,
Ayende Rahien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, in
<90ftn4$qoko$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
+
+ "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
+ news:sqDW5.29923$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
+ >
+ > "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
+ > news:90ebn3$smj4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
+ > >
+ > >
+ > > > Just read the guides first.
+ > >
+ > > I know that it is in the docs, the reason I've problems with it is that
+ > > Redhat neglected to put a simple warning box through the installation.
+ > > You may disagree, but on every other possibly distructive action, you
+ get
+ > a
+ > > warning saying this may be dangerous. Why not on one of the most
+ dangerous
+ > > thing that you can do to your computer?
+ >
+ > Are you sure about that? I can't remember exactly which steps I used
+ > on which distribution, but I am sure that I went through a workstation
+ > and server install to see what you get and before it changed the
+ partitions
+ > it issued a warning about losing all contents on the hard disks. That
+ > could have been Mandrake, or perhaps you used some unusual modes
+ > expert/text, etc. that exposed a bug.
+
+ Yes, I'm sure of it.
+ A Server Installation in RedHat will wipe out every last bit of data you've
+ on your system and will take it, without a *single warning*.
Perhaps the warning came before you expected it. I can't speak to
RedHat, but I know Debian puts up a warning of "you should back up
your data first, installing this software could wipe out everything
you've" very, very early on.
James
--
Consulting Minister for Consultants, DNRC
The Bill of Rights is paid in Responsibilities - Jean McGuire
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Subject: Re: OS tree - SOUND OFF!
From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 04 Dec 2000 13:05:44 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert) writes:
> From mainframe land we found the
>
> VIC 20. A commordore based machine with 256K of ram I think.
A VIC 20 only had 16k of RAM.
> Then it was a VIC 64.
Commodore 64, anyway :)
My first computer was a Commodore PET; way back in time. My first x86
box was in 1995.
--
The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
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