Linux-Advocacy Digest #567, Volume #30 Thu, 30 Nov 00 15:13:05 EST
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Re: Whistler review. (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Whistler review. (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Linux is awful
Re: Whistler review. (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Whistler review. (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Whistler review. (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Don't believe the hype ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Whistler review. ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Whistler review. ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Whistler review. ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Whistler review.
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 01:11:36 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Said MH in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Tue, 28 Nov 2000 09:26:42 -0500;
>> >> Spicerun, calm down, I think Ayende is a little excited because Windows
>> >> may actually reach the realiability of UNIX/Linux (which is very
>> >> unlikely due to its very poor design/achitecture), however, I don't
>> >> think it will happen. From the description, it seem like Whistler will
>> >> be mega-mega-mega-mega-mega-mega-mega-mega-mega bloatware that will
>> >> require a 1Ghz processor and 512MB RAM just so that it can run a decent
>> >> level of responsiveness due to all the hairy-fairy addons a gizmo's
>> >> Microsoft has added to the OS (which most people don't really need).
>
>Odd, I run whistler beta on the same machine I ran linux on for over a year.
>A pentium pro 200 box with 128 mb's of ram. Hate to say it folks, but it's
>true... Whistler smokes linux for gui responsiveness.
I'll bet you mean "Explorer responsiveness", don't you? I've never seen
anything but instantaneous GUI responsiveness on any Unix system. Their
file managers, however, generally suck.
>Not to mention, the
>machine, while taking more ram than w2k or nt (debug code you realize) seems
>like a very, very good beta. I've run it for weeks now, not one crash.
>Read the linux groups concerning upgrading to Redhat 7, you wanna talk about
>bugs??
>If that's the linux revolution, you can have it. Whistler beta upgraded w2k,
>migrated all apps and settings without flaw. And this is BETA code we're
>talking about. Redhat releases every 6 months and STILL presses shite onto
>CD's and calls it an upgrade. Where's the outrage over THAT Mr. Fung?
<*chortle*>
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Whistler review.
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 01:15:30 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Said kiwiunixman in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Tue, 28 Nov 2000 16:49:02
>I donot use Redhat Linux, I tried release 6.2, and from my experience, I
>donot understand the big noise companies make about Redhat Linux. I
>have found that SuSE has always sold reliable products (from my experience).
I think its down to SuSE or Debian for me, maybe both (on two different
machines). Any comments from those with some experience? How do the
packages compare, and which would be better for my "bit head" brother
who's always cobbling components into his five year old home-built
system, or for a small workgroup server/workstation combination
(including both Windows and Linux clients, and maybe some Sun boxes,
too)?
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Linux is awful
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 14:08:09 -0500
Want my $0.02 worth ?
For 4 weeks,while neither winnt4 , nor NT5 ( w2k ) would properly complete
its install on a 20 gig hdd, I was able to get all my things done ,including
download the necessary fixes to get those two os'es working by using a
now-prehistoric Redhat 6.0 distribution.
Although I have an amd750 chipset , a tbird 700 , GeFor2Mx , and an sblive ,
along with an isa ethernet card ( I can actually tell the F***ing thing
exactly what irq and port to use ), Not once did I run into any of the
strange crashes. or X problems the person described.
That is because
1) I do the install in expert mode.
2) I tell it that I will supply all the parameters
3) The runlevel during installation ( and even now ) was run level 3.
text mode ).
4) I told it to use a generic 16 color vga mode to get X running, and then
simply followed the instructions on nvidia's site to put in their driver.
5) Read throught the howto's, the config file and the man pages, not nto
mention the hardware compatability and driver
lists .
If you want to nit pick, perhaps you can tell me why this nt4 station bsod's
right in the middle of doing nothing?
The video driver goes nuts
Or why a dual processor nt server on an ntfs partition would blue screen?
NT4 has a known issue with this configuration where it slowly corrupts the
file system , under heavy access.
Or just why windows ME decided that an extended partition was not needed and
removed the entries in the partiton table pointing to it, thus loosing over
10 gb of backup data ?
I don't know , but I fixed it with linux's fdisk, where windows wanted to
create a new partition and *format* it.
KDE2 ? I use the *old* GNOME on the redhat cd, and it suits me fine. Sure
there are warnings and stuff, but not once, NEVER has it gone balls up and
lost several hours of work.
How do I stand the fonts and the low resolutions ?
Well, I use 1152x864 at some non standard ( non vesa ) refresh rate that I
calculated ( following the instruction in monitor.txt blindly ) .
On NT ( 4 &5 ) I can choose that resolution, but am limited to some
"standard" refresh rates, which is not good for my eyes. I have to go to
1024x768 in NTX.
Your use of comparisons :
The space shuttle does not go down under a packet/ion storm. It uses
radiation hardened chips. No matter how many systems fail, it can still be
landed. In fact , when it lands, it is the heaviest glider on the planet,
because it's got no fuel left.
When a windows system has some component go down , usually the whole system
goes down.
When a *nix system has some component go down , access to that component
will fail , but the computer will continue to respond.
Boxed packages : I am not very fond of them either.
But a little reading and inquires on these and other forums would have
identified where the problem is - incompatable hardware or just plain
misconfigured components.
bye.
Dennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:904t51$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Rozzi, my good friend, there's that thing called brain that you need to
use
> in order to succeeed with Linux. Apparently you lack the above mentioned
> item, or don't know how to use it properly.
> Skully1900 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Comparing Linux to Windows 2000 is like comparing the Space Shuttle to a
> bottle
> > rocket and Linux isn't the Space Shuttle. I just installed Mandrake 7.2
> and I,
> > and the 3 other people using it are not impressed at all. This is our
> first
> > venture into the world of Linux, and will be our last at least until
Linux
> can
> > match Windows 2000 in some very basic area's. First off we used Mandrake
> 7.2
> > complete from Mcmillan and you should be warned about the false
> advertising on
> > the box. First of all this is NOT a complete version of Linux if only
for
> no
> > server version install offered. Also the tech support is for TWO
INCIDENTS
> via
> > Email and for installation only. They don't tell you about the two
> incident
> > part on the box. We sent several questions, none of which were answered.
> The
> > install program is broken badly. If you type the command for expert
setup
> at
> > the boot prompt which is supposed to turn off hardware checking etc, it
> doesn't
> > work. It still goes off on autopilot and tries to detect hardware
anyway.
> This
> > was a major problem on a laptop we were trying to install on because it
> kept
> > detecting the wrong video chip and all we got on bootup was a white
screen
> with
> > no way of killing it except power off. No killing the X-server and no
way
> into
> > an alternet console. There was also no way around this because even on
> boot up
> > selecting i for interactive was interactive only up to starting X and it
> did
> > that no matter what we selected.
> >
> > On the other 2 systems things installed better but KDE 2.0 is very
> unstable. It
> > too locks up frequently, especially when exiting it but we can kill it
and
> it
> > doesn't take things down. So now it was time to play with the systems.
We
> were
> > able to set up the network ok and get Internet Connection Sharing up and
> > running even easier than with Windows 2000 but why no dial on demand
that
> will
> > work with kppp and the Gnome dialer? I know it can be done with scripts
> but a
> > newbie is going to use kppp which is set up as part of the install.
> Security
> > seemed preety good taking a trip over to Gibsons site. Most things
seemed
> to
> > work, but there is a major problem and that is what is going to send
> people
> > back to Windows.
> >
> > Linux gui just looks terrible. No matter what screen fonts, resolution
or
> > refresh rate is picked it is simply hard on the eyes. Many of the Gnome
> themes
> > are dark and hard to see. Netscape is the worst in this reagard being
> painful
> > to look at even with imported Windows TT fonts using DrakConf. By
contrast
> > Microsoft Windows is smooth and crisp looking. Mind you were using an
> Nvidia
> > and a Matrox card, both of which look stunning on Windows. People are
> going to
> > take one look at this mess and they will return it because it looks so
> boxy and
> > awful.
> >
> > We have played with fonts, colors and themes and quite frankly have had
> it.
> >
> > Between the crashing of the GUI, crappy look and yes the lack of quality
> > (although there is no lack of quantity) applications, Linux is a non
issue
> > around here. It's off our systems and we have fired off a letter to
> Mcmillin
> > requesting a refund for deceptive packaging.
> >
> > Rozzi
>
>
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Whistler review.
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 01:17:11 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Said mark in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed, 29 Nov 2000 18:26:22 +0000;
>In article <900f5b$kop$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, MH wrote:
>>
>>> >> Spicerun, calm down, I think Ayende is a little excited because Windows
>>> >> may actually reach the realiability of UNIX/Linux (which is very
>>> >> unlikely due to its very poor design/achitecture), however, I don't
>>> >> think it will happen. From the description, it seem like Whistler will
>>> >> be mega-mega-mega-mega-mega-mega-mega-mega-mega bloatware that will
>>> >> require a 1Ghz processor and 512MB RAM just so that it can run a decent
>>> >> level of responsiveness due to all the hairy-fairy addons a gizmo's
>>> >> Microsoft has added to the OS (which most people don't really need).
>>
>>Odd, I run whistler beta on the same machine I ran linux on for over a year.
>>A pentium pro 200 box with 128 mb's of ram. Hate to say it folks, but it's
>>true... Whistler smokes linux for gui responsiveness. Not to mention, the
>
><vicious cut for effect ;) >
>
>facts....?
>
>Ah, the 'I used to run Linux, but now that Whistler is here it rocks'
>posting.
>
>Wondered how long.
And it seems like just a couple months ago, it was 'I used to use Linux,
but now that W2K is here it rocks.' Before that it was NT4, before that
it was Win98, before that it was 95...
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Whistler review.
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 01:19:31 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Said mark in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed, 29 Nov 2000 19:10:43 +0000;
[...]
>pl/9, flex (with gimix debugger), (what does VMS stand for
>again?)
Virtual Memory System, I believe.
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Whistler review.
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 01:30:22 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Said mitch in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Thu, 30 Nov 2000 10:38:33 GMT;
>On Thu, 30 Nov 2000 05:49:07 GMT, kiwiunixman
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>I have never said I would not use Microsoft software, I am simply saying
>>that Microsoft does not produce quality software, and any one with half
>>a brain would know, the best idea does not always see the light of day.
>>I have used Windows 98 and 2000. Now, how come I find that applications
>
>In my experience, Microsoft Office is the best office suite available.
>(Regardless of cost).
Then obviously your experience must be limited to primarily Microsoft
Office. Or you simply don't have any technical aptitude, and so find
them all incomprehensible, but Office is the prettiest, and its already
installed...
>It would be more prudent to state that Microsoft does not produce
>quality Operating Systems.
The quality of their Office Suite has not plummeted to the depths of
crappiness that their OS has. That would be fair.
>Directx (as it stands just now) is a fantastic piece of software.
>(Built, I know, to overcome windows' shortcomings as a gaming os)
No, it was built to prevent Window's shortcomings from providing an
opportunity for competitors to threaten their monopoly. A subtle
difference. It is a piece of crap, from what I have heard and seen.
Its better than nothing is the best you could possibly say for it.
>Messenger is the best chat tool bar none.
'Messenger', whatever the hell that is, is the *only* "chat tool bar",
AFAIK. And I'd prefer if it wasn't forcibly bundled into the next
version of the monopoly operating system. Being a monopoly, I know my
desires have absolutely nothing to do with whether it will be, but I
thought it worth pointing out for future reference.
>If microsoft were to truly try and create a brand new operating system
>from scratch, having backwards compatability via nothing more than a
>virtual machine, I bet they could create an extremely nice OS.
They tried, it was called NT. Unfortunately, they ended up not creating
a brand new OS (its still Windows) from scratch (its mostly VMS
underneath) having backwards compatibility (you can only be "bug
compatible" to a limited extent without simply being buggy by design)
via nothing more than a virtual machine (the whole OS could be
considered little more than 'virtual', to be honest). Rather than being
an extremely nice OS, its just more monopoly crapware, fatally flawed by
that fact, even though it is indeed somewhat more robust and much more
stable than WinDOS.
>It`s
>their hang-ups regarding backwards compatability which have caused
>problems in every OS they have created from Windows3.1 onwards...
Yes, yes, we've heard this before. The reason WinNT sucks in comparison
to anything else is because of the requirement for backward
compatibility with WinDOS. But WinNT's backward compatibility is
extremely limited, in the real world! And not even W2K, but now
"Whistler", NT6, is being touted as the version which will "finally" be
sufficiently backward compatible to be an acceptable substitute for
WinDOS.
Tell me another story, grammpy! ;-)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Don't believe the hype
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 19:24:43 GMT
On Thu, 30 Nov 2000 17:29:12 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I have now used Linux for 6 months (Redhat 6.0)
>
>According to the press its a stable operating system - YOU MUST BE
>JOKING.
Linux is stable if it sits running in cli mode in the back of some
closet somewhere serving up web pages or directing traffic. If you
attempt to run X and then some real applications under kde or Gnome
that is where Linux starts to collapse. Sure most of the time Linux
itself doesn't crash but to the user browsing or running her
application what's the real difference except that the other users on
the box may still be up.
I have found even the latest version of Mandrake 7.2 to be abysmal
compared to Windows 2000. It's not bad as far as Linux is concerned,
but it looks like crap and it is quite unstable with kde locking up
all the time.
>
>I would have loved to have found linux was stable and usable however
>the truth is it lacks quality.
In terms of usability, consistency and quality of applications,
especially the kde and Gnome applications, it is pathetic how
amateurish these applications look compared to Windows applications.
But still, if you want that all and powerful cli and love to type
commands and churn out code and control literally every aspect of your
operating system, Linux may be the ticket.
claire
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Whistler review.
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 14:25:09 -0500
kiwiunixman wrote:
>
> Unfortunately I don't have the patience to programme, thats why I only
> programme as a last resort.
I'm the opposite.
I don't have the patience to do the same things over and over by hand...
that's why I almost always program.
>
> kiwiunixman
>
> mitch wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 30 Nov 2000 14:53:26 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >> In terms of databases, I dispise Access, I prefer
> >> using Filemaker, much easier, and producers the same/better results that
> >> Access.
> >>
> >
> > I can`t stand windowed database apps - I am only comfortable with
> > pl/sql.
> >
> >
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Whistler review.
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 14:25:44 -0500
Conrad Rutherford wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Leonardo wrote:
> > >
> > > "Spicerun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Conrad Rutherford wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > how would you know?
> > > >
> > > > I've been there!
> > > >
> > > > > That's like saying you run Linux cause it kicks DOS 6.22's ass.
> > > >
> > > > I run Linux because it kicks MSDOS3.x, MSDOS4.x, MSDOS5.x, MSDOS6.x,
> > > > MSDOS7.x, Win9x, WinME, WinNT, and Win2K's ass (all of which I've
> tried at
> > > > one time or another....and having to use Win2k here at work -- which
> you
> > > > would have known if you had read one of my replies elsewhere in this
> > > thread.
> > > > But then again, asking a Winvocate Troll to Read before Posting is
> futile.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Then why don't you tell your boss that You Will Never Use Windows Again.
> > > Looser, HAH
> >
> > Every time I go into an interview, I tell them:
> >
> > "I will NOT take responsibility for any system which uses, or is
> > dependant upon any platform running crud produced by Microsoft."
> >
> > And yet....I keep getting contracts for more and more pay.
> >
> > Why is that?
>
> BECAUSE YOU ARE LYING!
>
> I know NO ONE in the entire world that would hire someone who is as arrogant
> to go to an interview and TELL the hirer what they will or will not take
> responsibility for, unilaterally. Then again, companies that would hire you
> after such a statement are probably so small and broke that we'll never have
> heard of them.
>
> besides, you have to go on interviews...? My recruiter calls me to tell me
> who wants me next.
That must be why I'm pulling down over $100k / year.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Whistler review.
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 14:27:40 -0500
Conrad Rutherford wrote:
>
> Chad, there won't be any company left to visit after they take the road down
> linux loosers lane... I mean, I don't know anywhere they've dropped windows
> for linux and survived more than a fiscal year. In fact, I consider it an
> automatic lie when I hear "We replaced our windows boxes with linux" - I
> read: I snuck a copy of linux into a partition I resized with partition
> magic (nothing like it in unix world of course) and it's running my own
> private ftp site so I can leech files I download at work home.
Strange. Auto suppliers around Detroit are using Linux more and more....
so that they can more directly work with the auto manufacturers themselves
without having to purchase $15,000 Sun workstations
>
> "Chad Mulligan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:ikFU5.433$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > "Spicerun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Leonardo wrote:
> > >
> > > > "Spicerun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > Conrad Rutherford wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > how would you know?
> > > > >
> > > > > I've been there!
> > > > >
> > > > > > That's like saying you run Linux cause it kicks DOS 6.22's ass.
> > > > >
> > > > > I run Linux because it kicks MSDOS3.x, MSDOS4.x, MSDOS5.x, MSDOS6.x,
> > > > > MSDOS7.x, Win9x, WinME, WinNT, and Win2K's ass (all of which I've
> > tried at
> > > > > one time or another....and having to use Win2k here at work -- which
> > you
> > > > > would have known if you had read one of my replies elsewhere in this
> > > > thread.
> > > > > But then again, asking a Winvocate Troll to Read before Posting is
> > futile.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Then why don't you tell your boss that You Will Never Use Windows
> Again.
> > >
> > > As a matter of fact, I did. That's why I'm now setting up computers
> that
> > we're
> > > going to use to completely replace Windows.
> > >
> >
> > What company? Just wondering, thought I bid on unscrewing your mess after
> > they realize what a pig in a poke you sold them.
> >
> > > > Looser, HAH
> > >
> > > Obviously, speaking for yourself. I've been winning on Linux here.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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