Linux-Advocacy Digest #671, Volume #31 Tue, 23 Jan 01 07:13:04 EST
Contents:
Re: New Microsoft Ad :-) ("Tom Wilson")
Re: New Microsoft Ad :-) ("Tom Wilson")
Re: New Microsoft Ad :-) ("Tom Wilson")
Re: So much for Linux being more Difficult than Windows (Edward Rosten)
Re: New Microsoft Ad :-) ("Tom Wilson")
The new version of Windows (review and pictures) ("kiwiunixman")
Re: New Microsoft Ad :-) ("Tom Wilson")
Re: 3100 W2K Adv Servers deployed accross Europe (Edward Rosten)
Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant. ("Tom Wilson")
Re: 3100 W2K Adv Servers deployed accross Europe ("nuxx")
Re: Win2k vs Linux? Why downgrade to Linux? ("Tom Wilson")
Re: I am preparing to teach a Linux class and I am soliciting advice ("FranckA")
Re: The new version of Windows (review and pictures) (Edward Rosten)
Re: Poor Linux (Edward Rosten)
Re: Linux 2.4 Major Advance (Kevin Ford)
Re: Kernel space? Who gives a @#$% (Kevin Ford)
Re: Linux is crude and inconsistent. (Kevin Ford)
Re: So much for Linux being more Difficult than Windows (Kevin Ford)
Re: So much for Linux being more Difficult than Windows (Kevin Ford)
Re: Linux 2.4 Major Advance (Stuart Krivis)
Re: The *BEST* advertising! (Kevin Ford)
teach them to RTFM, please ("Jerry Segers, Jr.")
Re: New Microsoft Ad :-) (Giuliano Colla)
Re: Why "uptime" is important. (Bruce Scott TOK)
Re: NT is Most Vulnerable Server Software (Giuliano Colla)
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From: "Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: New Microsoft Ad :-)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 09:05:23 GMT
"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Said JS PL in alt.destroy.microsoft on Sun, 21 Jan 2001 11:58:47 -0500;
> [...]
> >Just trying to explain it would be revolting.
> >"O.K. grandma, to play the cd you'll have to mount the cd drive." NO NO
> >STOP!! Step away from the computer granmdma!!
>
> I would expect that Linux has had automount for a number of years. Can
> somebody confirm this?
For at least the past year and 1/2, yes.
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From: "Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: New Microsoft Ad :-)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 09:15:25 GMT
"." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:94g33o$bmb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Nope I'm not from any marketing organization, and I could care less
> > what Microsoft does as long as they continue to produce the quality,
> > easy to use and widely accepted as standard, applications they produce
> > now.
>
> Tell me claire, exactly why it is that while linux recognized my secondary
> PCI IDE controller (ATA/100) instantly and with no configuration
nessesary,
> windows decides that its a 'new device' every time I reboot and
incorrectly
> names it a "PCI RAID CONTROLLER"?
Windows 2000 required separate drivers for mine. The cheesiest of Linux
distros, Mandrake, recognized it right off the bat.
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From: "Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: New Microsoft Ad :-)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 09:17:03 GMT
"Lewis Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:94g8oc$a6v$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> . was heard ranting about <94g6ao$28v$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> in
> alt.linux.sux on 21 Jan 2001
>
> >In comp.os.linux.advocacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> On 22 Jan 2001 01:41:12 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.) wrote:
> >
> >>>
> >>>Tell me claire, exactly why it is that while linux recognized my
> >>>secondary PCI IDE controller (ATA/100) instantly and with no
> >>>configuration nessesary, windows decides that its a 'new device' every
> >>>time I reboot and incorrectly names it a "PCI RAID CONTROLLER"?
> >
> >> Because you say it does.
> >
> >It does, actually. One of the very many reasons that I only very rarely
> >run windowsME, and then only to play unreal tournament.
> >
> >Curiously, one of the MCSEs that I work with has the exact same problem
> >with an entirely different IDE controller, to which he consistently
> >responds:
> >
> >"fucking windows".
>
> Funny thing is most MCSE's and MCPs I know say the same thing a Lot. :)
Most of the one's I know sigh and shake their heads before saying it.
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From: Edward Rosten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: So much for Linux being more Difficult than Windows
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 09:23:55 +0000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 19:14:00 +0500, "Gary Hallock"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Sure, after waiting a few days for the CD to be shipped in the mail.
> >You totally missed the point.
> >
> >Gary
>
> No YOU missed the point Gary.
> Earthlink provides software on the CD that he can't use because it
> doesn't run under Linux.
He can't use the CD beause it probably hasn't arrived yet. It takes days
as opposed to minutes. What's the point of using the CD?
> It's more for a family, or newbie, but it is
> useful none the less.
If you can do it yourself easily, then it's not much use
> Oh yea it also includes the latest version of IE
> 5.5 a quality browser instead of that piece of trash Netscape.
That would be good, except IE is a piece of trash.
> And BTW the Windows user can connect just as easily by calling them,
> and guess what it takes about 10 minutes because the person on the
> other end of the phone will know exactly how to assist you in setting
> up your system.
The 1hr was spent (I expect) waiting for the account. And it took him
under 1 min to set it up as opposed to 10.
> Most of his hour was probably spent waiting for Earthlink to find the
> one person in the support department who knows anything about Linsux.
>
> So it is YOU who, once again miss the picture.
Yu're the one without the brain.
-Ed
--
Did you know that the reason that windows steam up in cold|Edward Rosten
weather is because of all the fish in the atmosphere? |u98ejr
- The Hackenthorpe Book of lies |@
|eng.ox.ac.uk
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From: "Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: New Microsoft Ad :-)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 09:24:34 GMT
"Chris Ahlstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 05:15:59 GMT, Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >You trolled for it, you've caught it. A capsule summary of
> > >your sophomoric sophistry. Babbage cabbage. Fiddling while
> > >your Rome burns, Caesar Au-Gates-Us with a knife in his OS,
> > >sipping his lead-laden cup of bile. Your gallium-arsenide
> > >semiconductor fuctor with Pb. Sipping from a firehose with a
> > >straw, it gets jammed in your craw.
> >
> > Yep I sure did, caught one that is...
> >
> > A certified card carrying Penguinista.
>
> Shoot, where can I get one of those cards?
I'd prefer the tee-shirt. I couldn't cram another card into my wallet if I
tried.
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From: "kiwiunixman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: The new version of Windows (review and pictures)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 22:37:28 +1300
http://www.geocities.com/rcwoolley/
looking good, however, is it as good as linux? nope
kiwiunixman
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From: "Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: New Microsoft Ad :-)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 09:35:21 GMT
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 23:19:30 -0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] () wrote:
>
>
> > ...plus, it's an entirely subjective thing too. How do you
> > test against such a thing? How do you fully specify such
> > a thing?
>
> I dunno, ask Microsoft or Winamp. They managed to make their players
> attractive looking, while xmms looks dreadful, no matter what skin you
> use.
I dunno, That Jadow (or whatever the hell its' called) skin pack is pretty
funky. Of course, I just minimize the damned thing if I ever have it loaded.
Y'know..Audio's kind of the point here.
Besides, XMMS looks almost identical to WinAmp...In interface as well as
appearance.
Are you absolutely sure you aren't confusing it with Kmpg or something?
>
> It's a mess even on a 21 inch monitor at 1024x768 32bpp.
Good Lord! Why are you wasting 21" with that paltry a resolution? 1600x1200
would serve much better.
>
> Can't even remember it's own song directory....
Huh? XMMS always remembers that on my machine? Didn't even have to configure
anything either.
>
> Flatfish
> Why do they call it a flatfish?
> Remove the ++++ to reply.
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From: Edward Rosten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: 3100 W2K Adv Servers deployed accross Europe
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 09:42:57 +0000
Jan Johanson wrote:
>
> While little MiG tries to impress with some brochure sites...
>
> MediaWave is deploying over 3,100 windows 2000 advanced servers all over
> europe to handle multimillions of simultaneous audio and video streams.
Oh, WOW!
Guess what? Computer use in the WORLD is EXPANDING, so people are
installing NEW servers. Some of them are Win2k, most are not. For these
3100 win2K servers installed by these people, there have probably been
10,000 others (or fewer of comparable power) installed else where.
Oh, and Media Wave isn't a Brochure site.
You are a waste of space.
*PLONK*
-Ed
--
Did you know that the reason that windows steam up in cold|Edward Rosten
weather is because of all the fish in the atmosphere? |u98ejr
- The Hackenthorpe Book of lies |@
|eng.ox.ac.uk
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From: "Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant.
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 09:50:16 GMT
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 00:41:16 +0100, Peter K�hlmann
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> >Well, as much as I agree with you on the whole, here you are wrong.
> >I know for a fact (because I worked for that company 14 years) that
> >Honeywell / Bull produced Microchannel-machines AND boards.
> >And they were not the only ones. IBM was NOT alone with MC, although it
> >never was any good. The advantages were not good enough in the light of
the
> >diasadvantages compared to ISA (VLB / EISA). PCI incorporated many of the
> >good things of MC.
>
> This is true, IBM did Licenses it's MCA to several other companies,
> which produced MCA machines as well. They were way a head of their
> time, technically, but the buying public just didn't accept them.
The cost was just a bit too high for the benefits. If they had kept the
costs down, they'd have had a better chance. I actually liked the
archetecture. Very efficient.
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From: "nuxx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: 3100 W2K Adv Servers deployed accross Europe
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 17:56:06 +0800
>
> it might be made to work, but they could have saved themselves
> a ton of money, and gotten better performance, reliability, and
> remote management capability by using Unix.
>
Why didn't you tell them this? You sound like a bit of an expert in
distributed media serving.
nuxx
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From: "Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Win2k vs Linux? Why downgrade to Linux?
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 10:07:19 GMT
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On 19 Jan 2001 01:22:30 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lewis Miller)
> wrote:
>
> Soooooooo give a big round of applause to Lexmark, and BTW they HAVE
> Linux drivers for the z52, so there you go. I will also say that the
> z42 I have is an excellent, solidly built printer.
That's actually good to hear, the last time I dealt with Lexmark was over
that lousy 6ppm laser printer they produced back in the early 90's. It
sounds as if they're getting a bit better.
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From: "FranckA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I am preparing to teach a Linux class and I am soliciting advice
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 19:45:33 +0930
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,linux.redhat
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> Said FranckA in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Mon, 22 Jan 2001 23:06:23
>>First and foremost, teach them how to INSTALL linux in both GUI and text
>>mode.
>
> Least and last, teach them how to install.
First problem most people have when trying Linux for the first time, is
getting through the Install process. Accomplish that and the rest is
usually fairly easy to learn and they feel a lot more confident.
>
>>Teach them about Partitioning and using fdisk, fips etc.....
>
> Next to last.
Was I going in order of importance? Again you are incorrect. Most users who install
Linux already have another
operating system on their pc, so it is imperative that they learn to
partition without destroying their data and not to mention other
operating system. It's not fun to learn but still a very important part
of the learning process.
>>Teach them about the different X window managers and how to install and
>>load them during bootup.
>
> How to run them after bootup.
ok, you have me there.... I should have said after bootup.
>
>>TEACH THEM ABOUT LILO !!! and especially about the 1024 cylinder limit
>>
>>Teach them how to use BOTH emacs and vi, but also show them the GUI
>>options.
>>
>>Show them how to connect to the Internet using ppp. This will most
>>definately be one of the questions they will ask. Show them how in both
>>KDE and Gnome, and also netcfg....
> Well, I agree about the ppp.
why thank you...
--
FranckA
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Webpage: http://www.ozemail.com.au/~geisha
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From: Edward Rosten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The new version of Windows (review and pictures)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 10:58:37 +0000
kiwiunixman wrote:
>
> http://www.geocities.com/rcwoolley/
Mimimum spec:
P4 1.5GHz
1024 MB Ram
80G 10,000 RPM Hdd
50x DVD Drive
Upgrade from Win2K: $3000
New: $10,000
What can it do better:
* Its 39745859 times more stable! (ie only crashes once per week (if its
rebooted every day))
* The menus spin towards you like newspaper headlines on old films
* It has VisualVirus(TM) AND KiddieScript(TM)
* It can turn todays mean machine to tommorws door stop in UNDER HALF
THE TIME of Win2K!
* New PassiveX Technology allows IE to crash^H^H^H^H^H integrate with
every part of the OS
> looking good, however, is it as good as linux? nope
>
> kiwiunixman
--
Did you know that the reason that windows steam up in cold|Edward Rosten
weather is because of all the fish in the atmosphere? |u98ejr
- The Hackenthorpe Book of lies |@
|eng.ox.ac.uk
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From: Edward Rosten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Poor Linux
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:01:21 +0000
Kyle Jacobs wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Kyle Jacobs wrote:
> > >
> > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >
> > > > GAME
> > > > SET
> > > > MATCH.... jerkoff
> > >
> > > No comment.
> >
> > translation: Kyle Jacobs acknowledges my victory over flat-head.
>
> No, it was distinctly "no comment" to your "MATCH.... jerkoff" line...
> Again, I have no comment as that making rude, personal and often undeserving
> comments about people on USENET is, cowardly, and wrong.
And trolling isn't?
-Ed
--
Did you know that the reason that windows steam up in cold|Edward Rosten
weather is because of all the fish in the atmosphere? |u98ejr
- The Hackenthorpe Book of lies |@
|eng.ox.ac.uk
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin Ford)
Subject: Re: Linux 2.4 Major Advance
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 10:26:48 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Les Mikesell once wrote:
>
>"Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:bQn86.2898$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>
>>
>> NT 4.0 and Windows 2000 server, Advanced Server, and Datacenter Server
>> have all proven themselves in the enterprise and have what it takes
>> in terms of performance, security, reliability, and scalability.
>>
>
>Which one of those it the one that actually works, and why do they
>keep selling the others?
>
> Les Mikesell
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Les, I think you've got it confused... none of them work and they sell
them because they spent so much on marketing.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin Ford)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Kernel space? Who gives a @#$%
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 10:25:34 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jan Johanson once wrote:
>
>"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Jan Johanson wrote:
>> >
>> > "Tim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> > news:h9mh6tk6jajl34me0arbgqpk395ouacolu@news...
>> > > On 14 Jan 2001 21:04:13 -0600, "Jan Johanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > [snip]
>> > >
>> > > Notice the troll drops a big steamy one and then is nowhere to be
>> > > heard when people follow-up to his article.
>> > >
>> >
>> > Unlike linux geeks - I have a social life and a paying job - hence, I do
>not
>>
>> I have a VERY high paying job and an INTERNATIONAL social life.
>
>Translation: I actually make money which makes me, in comparison to linux
>programmers, VERY highly paid (but compared to windows programmers, a street
>mime).
>
>Translation2: Uncle Sam sends me overseas without any say so on my own part.
>
>
If yo uthink having an MCSD or MCSE or whatever translates into big salaries
you are more than a little mistaken.... every man and his dog develops for
windows because as a base o/s it is so inflexible... the real money is paid
to the people who have to support the mission critical stuff which is more
than likely based on a Un*x as nothing else is supported as current hardware
(ie Vax, Alpha etc.) and/or reliable. Yes even Microsoft admit this... and
don't even dare say clustering.... Windows clustering is less reliable than
a windows box on it's own, we should know here, we have Microsoft, DEC and
Stonebeat.
Go take a look at the going rate for contractors before you spout such
incorrect drivel.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin Ford)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Linux is crude and inconsistent.
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 10:40:30 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kyle Jacobs once wrote:
>
>"Bob Hauck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 20:45:35 +0200, Ayende Rahien <Please@don't.spam>
>wrote:
>>
>> >Just a tidbit, I heard that MS is going to port Office to Mac OS X, this
>> >probably mean that all other *nix will have it as well, doesn't it?
>>
>> Nope. My understanding is that the OS-X GUI is based on Display
>> Postscript instead of X.
>
>You are refering to Carbon. But you are still correct. Although Office
>2000 for UNIX isn't such a bad idea, it could blow StarOffice out of the
>water.
>
Not if it contains the same kernel hooks that threaten the stability of
the already fragile O/S.
And why is it that Windows (any windows) as an o/s is so at the mercy of
gui based stuff, most of my crashes seem to be from graphic intensive
programs.... ie5 etc
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin Ford)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: So much for Linux being more Difficult than Windows
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 10:45:27 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] once wrote:
>On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 19:14:00 +0500, "Gary Hallock"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>>Sure, after waiting a few days for the CD to be shipped in the mail.
>>You totally missed the point.
>>
>>Gary
>
>No YOU missed the point Gary.
>Earthlink provides software on the CD that he can't use because it
>doesn't run under Linux. It's more for a family, or newbie, but it is
>useful none the less. Oh yea it also includes the latest version of IE
>5.5 a quality browser instead of that piece of trash Netscape.
>And BTW the Windows user can connect just as easily by calling them,
>and guess what it takes about 10 minutes because the person on the
>other end of the phone will know exactly how to assist you in setting
>up your system.
>Most of his hour was probably spent waiting for Earthlink to find the
>one person in the support department who knows anything about Linsux.
>
>So it is YOU who, once again miss the picture.
>
I wouldn't be surprised if you like AOL.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin Ford)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: So much for Linux being more Difficult than Windows
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 10:49:00 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] once wrote:
>On Tue, 23 Jan 2001 01:28:53 GMT, Russ Lyttle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>
>
>>It took 4 days for the CD to show up. I had already been up and running
>>for *FOUR* days with Linux.
>
>You could have done the same with Windows.
>You at least have a choice with Windows to use the CD or install
>manually and you wouldn't have to wait for somebody who knows about
>Linux to help you.
>
No, windows 9x would have blue screened within two.... either that or it
would suddenly start behaving like the 'alt' key was being pressed down...
you know pressing 'e' on its own would bring up explorer, 'f' for find
files, etc. jesus thats so annoying.
Another one of my favourites is 'application not responding, press wait or
close it' isn't that what I just did??
Also I like it when the Windows kernel has decided that windows has
performed an illegal operation, probably something like trying to stay up
longer than a couple of days. Blue screen, press any key to close the
program and return to windows.... erm, isn't that what I'm closing???
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart Krivis)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux 2.4 Major Advance
Date: 23 Jan 2001 06:11:54 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 05:30:25 GMT, J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Chad Myers wrote:
>
>> > Linux has support for at least 2 choices of journaling filesystem (reiser or
>> > ext3 )
>>
>> Neither of which are stable and each have their own caveats. NTFS 5 has none
>> of these problems.
>
>So say the windows zealots - but of course it's not true.
>Suse has been shipping lvm and reiser for some time now,
>and is used in production environments.
Reiserfs is quite stable IME. I've seen it running on several production boxes
doing web caching. I performs very well.
NTFS seems to be a decent FS. I have no real complaints about it - except for
the problems with fragmentation. Oh - there's also that little problem with the
MFT growing and growing and... And I have seen systems get hosed when they're
not shut down correctly. ERD Commander and a chkdsk fixed that, but if you don't
have it...
Nothing is perfect in this world. However, I tend to be more impressed with unix
solutions than with Windows ones. MS just seems to have a knack of making more
work for Administrators. :-)
--
Stuart Krivis
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin Ford)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: The *BEST* advertising!
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 10:55:36 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kyle Jacobs once wrote:
>"Charlie Ebert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>And they get grossly disappointed when the only advice you can dole out is
>"read the howto".
>
It is a good idea you know, the howto's are well written.
Unless you want an inflexible e-mail and web surfing machine (what is the
point in having anything quicker than a P200MMX in this case) then you
probably want to to get the most power and efficiency oout of your PC,
whilst still being reasonably user friendly and having the documentation
etc. to back up your system. Linux is the nice middle ground between BSD
and Windows for this.
For instance, would you service your car without a service manual? No.
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From: "Jerry Segers, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,linux.redhat
Subject: teach them to RTFM, please
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 06:25:22 -0500
In article <94gqn6$rmd$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Jeff Silverman"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<snip>
> 2) File manipulation commands: cp, mv, rm, rmdir, ln, cat, more, find,
also teach less or most, more sucks badly. Locate is one I use allatime.
Once I commanded my 'puter to locate enlightenment <G>
be sure to teach them man and/or info!! and give them the URL for the LDP
(http://www.linuxdoc.org/)
> 4) Minimal sysadmin stuff - assuming they are going to run their own
> machines. Is that a reasonable assumption? Account management.
> Minimal security issues. Networking
> (that's a mouthful).
Another vote for give them each a machine with a formatted drive and a
copy of your favorite distribution.
> It gets more complicated... GUIs. Should I teach KDE? gnome? Motif?
>
> How about shell scripting?
<snip>
The howto on the LDP does fine for that, point it out, but I wouldn't
bother going into it. editing .bashrc to alias commands would be nice
and would provide an excellent opportunity for pointing out how much else
you can do with the shell.
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From: Giuliano Colla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: New Microsoft Ad :-)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:49:08 GMT
Tom Wilson wrote:
>
> "Chris Ahlstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 05:15:59 GMT, Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >You trolled for it, you've caught it. A capsule summary of
> > > >your sophomoric sophistry. Babbage cabbage. Fiddling while
> > > >your Rome burns, Caesar Au-Gates-Us with a knife in his OS,
> > > >sipping his lead-laden cup of bile. Your gallium-arsenide
> > > >semiconductor fuctor with Pb. Sipping from a firehose with a
> > > >straw, it gets jammed in your craw.
> > >
> > > Yep I sure did, caught one that is...
> > >
> > > A certified card carrying Penguinista.
> >
> > Shoot, where can I get one of those cards?
>
> I'd prefer the tee-shirt. I couldn't cram another card into my wallet if I
> tried.
Then how are you going to cram a T-shirt on it? :-)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Scott TOK)
Subject: Re: Why "uptime" is important.
Date: 23 Jan 2001 12:52:38 +0100
In article <t3Xa6.648$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Paul Hustava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Scott TOK)
>wrote:
>>Does IRS still put everything up in Windows .exe format?
>>
>
>No they don't, they're just zip archives with a self-extract
>(MS-Dos) executable header. Just download them and type;
> `unzip <filename>.exe` -- it works, I just tried it.
I went back to their site and now find most everything is in PDF. At
least I can print it out.
--
cu,
Bruce
drift wave turbulence: http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~bds/
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From: Giuliano Colla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: NT is Most Vulnerable Server Software
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:55:41 GMT
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
[snip]
>
> When did Stevens die?
>
On september 1, 1999.
http://www.kohala.com/
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