Linux-Advocacy Digest #351, Volume #32 Tue, 20 Feb 01 17:13:07 EST
Contents:
Re: Why Open Source better be careful - The Microsoft Un-American (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: SSH vulnerabilities - still waiting [ was Interesting article ] (Markus Friedl)
Re: SSH1 (Markus Friedl)
Re: Microsoft seeks government help to stop Linux (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: .NET is plain .NUTS (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Rolie Baldock)
Re: Red Hat Fisher Beta (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Incredible developments in Italy regarding business software (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Red Hat Fisher Beta (John Travis)
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: SSH vulnerabilities - still waiting [ was Interesting article ] (Theo de Raadt)
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Open Source better be careful - The Microsoft Un-American
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 16:43:14 -0500
Bloody Viking wrote:
>
> Aaron Kulkis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> : China has no copyright laws...and there isn't a damn thing that
> : Gates can do about it.
>
> Except maybe lobby the DoD to tell China to pass a copyright law or get nuked.
> Not that it would make a difference as the DoD has a way bigger money supply
> than Gates. And nukes don't repeal natural laws...
>
> : > A few years ago, I predicted that China will never be a huge consumer market
> : > when a fuckwitted bitch with a Master Bullshit Artist degree asked me about
> : > the global mail operation at the annex where I worked. I was right. I pissed
> : > her off pretty bad when I pointed out that the Chinese version of Joe Average
> : > simply doesn't have money to blow on Victoria's Secret lingerie.
>
> : true.
>
> I'd love to see the typical MBA cirriculum, just for a laugh. I don't seem to
> be too bad as an economist.
>
> : > The McDonald's execs thought they were cute when they opened 100 stores all
> : > over Asia in "emerging markets" and lost their shirt.
>
> : There are emerging markets...just not in China.
>
> : Malaysia and Thailand...now they're worth paying attention to.
>
> Check the GDP/population ratio before you try to sell consumer goods. A
> billion people doesn't mean a billion consumers.
>
> : > During the NAFTA debate, I made the prediction that consumer goods would be
> : > slow sellers under the border. Sure as shit, I was right.
>
> : yup
>
> The average Mexican makes a buck an hour, ten times the Chinese average. And
> Mexico is still about a non-market for consumer goods.
Higher cost of living because there is more infrastructure to maintain.
>
> : > Bill Gates is forgetting the first law of economics:
>
> : > You can't sell product to people without money.
>
> : Woooooo hoo!
> : :-)
>
> Ignore my law at your peril, Bill!
>
> : > That one simple law of nature explains why you don't see a Macy's in a town of
> : > trailer parks. Same with the lack of grocery supermarkets in projects. Any MBA
> : > ignoring that law does so at his or her own economic peril. That law has been
> : > time tested by all the examples above and it always works. If Bill Gates
> : > thinks that the Chinese people can pay up for software when they have to take
> : > out a loan on a used bicycle, he is utterly deluded.
> : >
> : > Just becuse the non-market is halfway around the world doesn't mean the laws
> : > of nature are repealed. The McMBAs forgot that fact when they set up stores
> : > selling burgers that cost a worker TWO DAYS wages for one sandwich.
>
> : Should have used local labor to produce the patties locally, rather
> : than shipping from the US.
>
> I'm sure they tried. But a populace making a dime an hour can't afford McCrap.
Unless the whole hamburger only costs 2 pennies.
> But alas, the McMBAs ignored the simple fact that you can't sell product to
> people without money. HELLO!!!! Now it's Bill Gates' turn to test my first law
> of economics. At his peril, of course.
heheheheh
>
> In case you are wondering, I discovered a second law of economics to match the
> first.
>
> Advertising always destroys the communications medium in with it's allowed to
> exist without restraint.
good observation.
>
> (examples: spam, telemarketers, junk mail, arguably radio and TV)
>
> --
> FOOD FOR THOUGHT: 100 calories are used up in the course of a mile run.
> The USDA guidelines for dietary fibre is equal to one ounce of sawdust.
> The liver makes the vast majority of the cholesterol in your bloodstream.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Markus Friedl)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.security.ssh
Subject: Re: SSH vulnerabilities - still waiting [ was Interesting article ]
Date: 20 Feb 2001 21:43:29 GMT
In <Fwdk6.41069$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Chad Myers"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> otherwise it's impossible to take your claims for serious.
>Maybe for you. When presented with facts, you just dismiss them because
>it's to scary?
not it's not too scary. when wrote the protocol 2 implementation
for OpenSSH I learnt a great deal about the SSH protocol and
from your postings it seems that you have no idea what you
are talking about.
>> >Perhaps you should start calling it Not so secure shell (NSSSH).
>>
>> perhaps you should stop spreading FUD.
>It's the truth, whether or not you want to believe it. The fact is,
>there are several vulnerabilities in SSH and you refuse to admit it.
yes, but you have no idea.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Markus Friedl)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.security.ssh
Subject: Re: SSH1
Date: 20 Feb 2001 21:44:48 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Janne Sinkkonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Markus Friedl) writes:
>> >> They've been spreading FUD about SSH1 for years. They had a commercial
>> >> interest in getting people to upgrade to SSH2. You can join the dots
>> >> yourself.
>>
>> >BTW, is there any known incidents of compromized SSH1 connections, or
>> >is the vulnerability of the protocol just theoretical so far?
>>
>> what is 'the vulnerability'?
>Weaknesses of the protocol which have been pointed out by people at ssh.com
>I ask because I don't know, I'm too lazy to find out, and to clarify
>other people's misconceptions.
the problems listed on the SSH.com site only apply to old obsolte
SSH-1 implementations. they do not apply to OpenSSH.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft seeks government help to stop Linux
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 16:46:13 -0500
Bloody Viking wrote:
>
> Aaron Kulkis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> : Personally, I think a Marine Expeditionary Brigade, 2 Marine
> : Air Wings, and a couple of Iowa-Class battleships should use
> : the Redmond, Washington campus of Microsoft as a live-fire
> : training ground.
>
> The Iowa-model battleships would be nice, just make sure to adapt nuke
> artillery shells to its guns. That way, Redmond becomes MS-Parking Lot v.1.0.
>
Na... full broadsides of 16-inch High Explosive rounds are more fun.
> --
> FOOD FOR THOUGHT: 100 calories are used up in the course of a mile run.
> The USDA guidelines for dietary fibre is equal to one ounce of sawdust.
> The liver makes the vast majority of the cholesterol in your bloodstream.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: .NET is plain .NUTS
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 16:47:48 -0500
Charlie Ebert wrote:
>
> In article <96spne$rm8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bloody Viking wrote:
> >
> >Charlie Ebert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >
> >: It is THEIR feeling,,,, well let me just repeat what one of them
> >: told me one morning when I questioned buying licenses.
> >
> >: "MR. EBERT, I bought this copy of Microsoft OFFICE. This CD is mine!
> >: This office your standing in is MINE. You are MY employee and this
> >: CD is MY PROPERTY. Because this CD is MY property and YOU ARE
> >: MY employee you will do with this CD what I TOLD YOU TO DO or
> >: you can get out. You don't OWN this place. If you don't LIKE IT
> >: HERE you can just pack your bags and GET OUT. Now install this
> >: CD across the computers I told you to install them on as I TOLD you
> >: to do and do it NOW!"
> >
> >: And all I was trying to do was to highlight the possibility of his
> >: being thrown into legal difficulties by fulfilling this ORDER.
> >: I wasn't trying to TELL HIM what to do.
> >
> >What an idiot boss. What you do is follow that order, and in a future
> >arse-chewing, you could always say "If you fire me or continue screaming, I
> >will call the BSA on you". Then, as he fires you, go to the nearest payphone
> >and financially nuke his business with the software stormtroopers doing the
> >dirty deed.
> >
>
> WRONG! You never do that.
>
> I don't give a damn for Copyrights. I use GNU/Linux.
> Therefore, why should I cooperate with a Copyright organization.
>
> Wrong thinking...
>
> Let God be the judge.
>
> >Who needs a gun to go postal with, when every boss is a warez dood? At
> >$250K/pop, 100 copies of warez would send that business back to the stone age,
> >with a $25M fine! The specter of warez makes every business vunerable to this
> >digital method of going postal. Warez is a sword of damaclese over the head of
> >every business exec. Large companies are especially vunerable to this attack
> >as they will be all but certain to have lots of warez due to if nothing else a
> >sloppy techie or a techie planting a "warez bomb" on purpose in case of firing
> >to later go postal with.
> >
>
> Exactly my point. It would be like having a dual with your employer.
> You get the cannon, he get's the skimpy bathing suit.
>
> >The .NET thingy will result in economic disruption as nearly every company is
> >out of compliance, and suddenly a shitload of money is lost by companies with
> >Bill Gates getting it all. Any "warez bombs" will prematurely "explode" as
> >.NET is implimented.
> >
> >--
> >FOOD FOR THOUGHT: 100 calories are used up in the course of a mile run.
> >The USDA guidelines for dietary fibre is equal to one ounce of sawdust.
> >The liver makes the vast majority of the cholesterol in your bloodstream.
>
> But never cooperate with the BSA. They stand for Copyrights.
The copyrights aren't the problem.
It's Microsoft's use of the drug-pusher/extortion business model.
> Copyrights and Microsoft are like Six guns, Horses, and Cows,
> if there not frozen at your freezer section in your favorite grocery
> store, they should be.
>
> --
> Charlie
>
> **DEBIAN** **GNU**
> / / __ __ __ __ __ __ __
> / /__ / / / \/ / / /_/ / \ \/ /
> /_____/ /_/ /_/\__/ /_____/ /_/\_\
> http://www.debian.org
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rolie Baldock)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 21:48:19 GMT
Your experiences are an illusion. Life is but a stage and we are all
players. The ONLY moment is NOW. History cannot be changed and the
future is UNCERTAIN. We are all immortal perfect beautiful components
of LIFE FORCE (GOD or NATURE) if you like. It is simply a play on
words.
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 16:46:19 GMT, "Peter T. Breuer"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In comp.os.linux.misc Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> In comp.os.linux.misc Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>> Robert Surenko wrote:
>>>> In comp.os.linux.misc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>> Yes, but the experiment can not be repeated. In your previous
>>>> blatherings you claimed that the only way something can be known
>>>> is the Scientific Method, and it's reliable because the event can
>>>> be repeated.
>
>>> You don't have to repeat the shooting...all you need to do is exhume
>>> the body.
>
>> Your missing the point. How do we "know" that a historical event happened?
>
>We do not miss the point. We know it because we can subject the question
>to test. There are archives and witnesses and things that have been influenced
>by the event in such a way as to make them distinct from the way they would
>have been if the event had not happened. In this case, "the body" is one
>of those things. While we cannot say for certain that the event did or did
>not happen (nor tell whether a human being is or is not really a computer
>with a biological facade), we can become reasonably sure, to most peoples
>satisfaction, that it did.
>
>For one thing, I remember it - and/or think I do.
>
>Peter
--Rolie Baldock. email: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subtract one thousand and nine for direct email
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Red Hat Fisher Beta
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 16:52:34 -0500
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
> Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> >
> > Jeepster wrote:
> > >
> > > Linvocates - they make the mormons seem normal.
> > >
> > > Gotta love 'em.
> > >
> > > > bad.... I've spent more time getting a modem to work
> > > > under Win NT.
> > >
> > > Then you don't understand what you are doing. You should be even touching a
> > > computer in an administrative capacity.
> >
> > Of course, the fact that NT, just like everything else with
> > the Lose32 API is a fucked up piece of shit doesn't have the
> > slightest relevance....or does it.
>
> Thanks, Aaron! I take back anything bad I ever said about
> your lonngggggg sig <grin>.
>
Now you know why I have so many enemies.
> Jeepster can go back to servicing Bill Gates' CPU (central
> procreative unit.)
>
> Chris
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Incredible developments in Italy regarding business software
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 16:53:18 -0500
Adam Warner wrote:
>
> From the truth is stranger than fiction file:
>
> http://lwn.net/2001/features/siae.php3
>
> Any Italian wanting to distribute software for profit requires an
> authorising stamp or they could face a huge fine or imprisonment:
>
> "Whoever intends to make a profit ...for commercial or business purposes,
> from the use of ...computer programs contained on a medium not bearing the
> SIAE stamp, is subject to a penalty of imprisonment from six months up to
> three years and to a fine from 2500 to 15000 Euros."
>
> Since an SIAE stamp is required for the name of the author, publisher,
> producer or copyright holder a single Linux CD could conceivably require
> hundreds of stamps.
Fucking government LEECHES.
>
> Adam
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: John Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Red Hat Fisher Beta
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 21:38:39 GMT
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 00:50:22 -0000, "Jeepster"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Linvocates - they make the mormons seem normal.
>
>Gotta love 'em.
You are a very sad specimen. I remember you from a.o.l.m. What's the
matter, couldn't even figure out what is probably the most 'windows
friendly' distro?
>Then you don't understand what you are doing. You should be even touching a
>computer in an administrative capacity.
Erm...you're the one who couldn't even figure out Mandrake.
>Disgraceful, you are a user, nothing more, nothing less.
>
>> bargain than even the finest monopoly bloatware, Win 2000.
>
>And Linux with all its associate addons is not bloat? with KDE/Gnome added
>its not? *LOL*
They are all optional dipshit. And even for their apps you only need the
libs.
>Again, you are a user not an administrator.
Again, neither are you so why the hell are you talking?
>Now sit down boy, and stop whinging about matters that you don't understand.
LOL. Man I don't know what it is about people from a.o.l.m. Steve used to
post there too for the week he embraced GNU/Linux. I suppose you are just a
looser who tried to jump on the band wagon and was looking for that 'rebel'
factor of using something besides MS. Kinda sad how fast you turned into
one of the dumbest trolls on cola.
jt
________________________________________
Alternative Computing Solutions...
Debian GNU/Linux http://www.debian.org
FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 16:55:50 -0500
John Rudd wrote:
>
> Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> >
> > John Rudd wrote:
> > >
> > > Jonathan Hendry wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Aaron Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > What I like about the GPL is it keeps people honest....
> > > >
> > > > No it doesn't. The legions of /.ers who will whinge
> > > > and bitch and complain and DDOS your site keep people
> > > > honest.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Sounds like the digital age equiv. of Mao's comment about that which issues
> > > forth from the barrel of a gun. (That was Mao, wasn't it?)
> >
> > close. "Political power comes from the barrel of a gun"
> > --Mao Ze Dong
> >
>
> Right, I said "sounds like". I heard it as "Power is that which issues
> forth from the barrel of a gun."
>
> The 'Net equivilent might be: Software Freedom is protected by that which
> issues forth from a DDOS.
>
> > --
> > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > Unix Systems Engineer
> > DNRC Minister of all I survey
> > ICQ # 3056642
> >
> [long .sig trimmed]
>
> Dude, ever heard of netiquette? :-) no more than 4-6 lines, please. :-)
Dude, ever hear that 20M hardrives are obsolete, and 20G hard drives
are standard equipment these days?
Collect the .sig portion of ALL my postings, and it still isn't as much
space as a moderately sized JPG.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 16:59:37 -0500
"Donal K. Fellows" wrote:
>
> Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> > True. And the public demand that Parliament outlaw handguns
> > will, in the final analysis, prove to be the key step which
> > costs British subjects even the appearance of freedom.
>
> Ah. So not only are you an asshole with a .sig, you're a right-wing
> paranoiac gun-nut asshole with a .sig. I'm glad I'm on a different
> continent from you. I don't suppose you could relocate to a different
> planet, like Mercury?
Ever notice who the criminals NEVER turn in their guns?
Have you noticed that the rate of violent crim in the UK is climbing?
...same for "hot" burglaries (where the occupants are home), and
the number of home invasions which result in violence against the
home owners.
You see...right now...your police are law abiding...because they
have a long tradition of being unarmed officials amongst an armed
public.
But...wait 10 years...and your police will start becoming as
criminally violent as the police are becoming over here.
The list of innocents who have died when the police have broken
down the doors of .. OOPS! WRONG ADDRESS! Please, ma'am, move
your husband's carcass out of the way so we don't trip over him
on the way out..."
>
> Donal.
> --
> Donal K. Fellows http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~fellowsd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -- I may seem more arrogant, but I think that's just because you didn't
> realize how arrogant I was before. :^)
> -- Jeffrey Hobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.security.ssh
Subject: Re: SSH vulnerabilities - still waiting [ was Interesting article ]
From: Theo de Raadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 20 Feb 2001 14:59:16 -0700
T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Said Charlie Ebert in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Mon, 19 Feb 2001
> [...]
> >What is *THIS* fucking bullcrap about Chad?
> >
> >Why?
>
> Because he is a troll who, for reasons mysterious to the rest of us,
> finds validation in being replied to, regardless of what the reply is or
> what things he has to say, be they facts, inflammatory opinions,
> misrepresentations, or outright lies, in order to get it.
No no no.
He's not a troll. He's a net-kook.
--
This space not left unintentionally unblank. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Open Source means some restrictions apply, limits are placed, often quite
severe. Free Software has _no_ serious restrictions. OpenBSD is Free Software.
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