Linux-Advocacy Digest #580, Volume #32 Thu, 1 Mar 01 13:13:04 EST
Contents:
Re: A question for a user who wants to jump the M$ ship (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Mircosoft Tax ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: [OT] .sig (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Mircosoft Tax (The Ghost In The Machine)
Re: KDE or DOJ ? ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: Kulkis: please trim the sig (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, was Why open source software is better (Jay
Maynard)
Re: MS Price Strategy (was Microsoft Tax) (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: KDE or DOJ ? ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: [OT] .sig (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: questions (windows & Mac)....? (Tony Chatum)
Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, was Why open source software is better (Drazen
Kacar)
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: A question for a user who wants to jump the M$ ship
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 12:45:10 -0500
Brent R wrote:
>
> Robert MacGregor wrote:
> >
> > I love Linux, I really do, and have used it for years as my li'l home
> > web/mail/dhcp/firewall server and have always enjoyed my opportunities
> > to administer it (which I always love is practically never).
> >
> > And I've been going back and forth on switching my desktop to it for
> > just as long. Each release of Redhat that I've seen (7.1 is the latest)
> > and the strides being made with KDE and all... It gets more and more
> > appealing.
> >
> > My biggest reservations are that I have such an attachment to my windows
> > apps.. I've seen some nice apps on Linux, but with all the various
> > opensource things out there, a lot of what I have seen has been less
> > than impressive to me, a GUI-spoiled brat (hey, I admit it.. and I grew
> > up with Macs... but the GUI thing is just as important to me as the
> > engineering under the hood.)
>
> Of course. Who the hell wants to look at plain text all day?
You're doing it right now...IDIOT!
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Mircosoft Tax
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 11:55:32 -0600
"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Said Erik Funkenbusch in alt.destroy.microsoft on Tue, 27 Feb 2001
> [...]
> >Look, Max. The argument says "Since Windows is the *ONLY* component that
> >has not come drastically down in price in recent years, Windows must be a
> >monopoly in order to not follow the market demands". This statement is
> >proveably false, and I pointed out that roughly half of the average
computer
> >has stayed roughly the same price for at least 6 years.
>
> Look, Erik, forgive me for not going along with this premise that you're
> entirely clueless. No, the argument was not "since EVERY SINGLE
> COMPONENT HAS LITERALLY DECREASE IN PRICE WITH NO EXCEPTIONS, then
> Windows MUST BE a monopoly."
Yes, that is the argument. Here is the original post which includes the
comment:
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=&num=10&btnG=Google+Search&as_oq=&as_ep
q=&as_eq=&as_ugroup=&as_usubject=&as_uauthors=+&as_umsgid=3A995A7B.6260866D@
home.com&lr=
"PCs are becoming obsolete, you say? Wrong.
They're still selling in huge numbers, because
they're enormously useful devices whose
utility keeps expanding. The *ONLY* component
in the average PC that hasn't come down
sharply in price is -- you guessed it --
the operating system. Microsoft continues
to spin off monopoly profits, with no end
in sight."
(Emphasis Mine, of course)
Now, are you *STILL* going to deny that this was the argument, and that it's
not based on a faulty premise?
> Now stop being a pedantic ass. You're moving rapidly from 'boring' to
> 'repulsive'.
Is this going to be another one of those "pretend it doesn't exist"
arguments?
> >The argument is faulty. I'm not saying anything about the conclusions
(in
> >this particular argument), as they are irrelevant. The conclusions could
be
> >true or false, it doesn't matter for the purpose of this argument.
>
> The argument is perfectly valid, regardless of how furiously you wish it
> weren't so.
Wait, you just said that this wasn't the argument, now you're saying it is,
and it's valid? Which is it?
> >> No, that's untrue, Erik.
> >
> >How can sit there and say that an argument based on false data is still a
> >valid argument?
>
> By pointing out, for only the umpteenth time, that the argument is not
> *BASED ON* the data you claim it is; you merely *wish* it were, so that
> you could pretend it is a flawed argument. The fact is, it is an
> extremely strong argument showing that Microsoft maintains the price of
> their products above competitive levels. A consumer in 1985 buying an
> MS OS off the shelf would pay about $49, I think; in 2001, its up to
> $185.
Bullshit. You couldn't buy a MS OS "off the shelf" in 1985. MS didn't start
to retail MS-DOS until Dos 4.0, which came out around 1989, and Windows did
not become an OS until Windows 3.0 (possibly Windows 2/386, but that was
like 1988/89 as well). Furthermore, DOS 5.0 retailed for $99, not $49 (and
Dos 4.0 was about the same price)
http://www.smartcomputing.com/editorial/article.asp?article=articles%2F1992%
2Fjan92%2F0106%2F92n0106%2Easp
The price of Windows 1.0 was $100 (I was wrong in an earlier post when I
thought it was $500) but required DOS, which meant Dos + Windows costed
$199, about $8 cheaper than the MSRP today, and Windows today is 1000x what
Windows 1.0 was.
http://www.islandnet.com/~kpolsson/comphist/comp1985.htm
> Pray save us the inevitable whining about "how much more you get"; it
> really has nothing to do with the matter.
You were saying?
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c
Subject: Re: [OT] .sig
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 12:46:48 -0500
Michael Powe wrote:
>
> >>>>> "Aaron" == Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Aaron> Joona I Palaste wrote:
> >> Richard Heathfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled the
> >> following on comp.lang.c:
> >> > Aaron Kulkis wrote:
>
> >> >> Peter Pichler wrote:
>
> >> >> > >> and as such has a God-given Right to do whatever the >>
> >> > >> hell he likes (e.g. appending 1708 bytes of yahoo rant to
> >> all >> > >> his Usenet postings), however annoying and
> >> inconvenient it may >> > >> be for the rest of us.
>
> >> >> > >And not only that, but I serve in the military to defend
> >> >> > >that right.
>
> >> >> > You must be /realy/ proud.
>
> >> >> Are you trying to imply that defending your country is
> >> somehow >> an ignoble thing to do?
>
> >> > No, he's trying to imply that being a complete bozo is an
> >> ignoble thing > to do. Learn to read for comprehension.
>
> >> And by the way, Aaron - "defending your country" does not
> >> qualify as a reason.
>
> Aaron> What part of United States Army do you not understand?
>
> Aaron> The US Army defends the US Constitution, which secures my
> Aaron> right, by virtue of being in the US, to say anything I damn
> Aaron> well please on USENET or any other place.
>
> While it's deeply shaming to have such as Mr. Kulkis performing his
> routine as the "ugly American" before an international audience, I
> would like to point out a couple things. First, we have no true
> knowledge that Mr. Kulkis ever served in the Armed Forces of the
Check the records.
> United States. Considering his demonstrated lack of honor, I for one
> see no reason to take him at his word about anything -- whether that
> anything be his claim to be a member of the US Army or his claim to be
> a "Unix Systems Engineer." Even had he served, wouldn't it seem more
> than likely that he got "section 8" (discharged as mentally unfit for
> duty)? Please do not take him as indicative of the membership of the
I'm currently STILL part of the US Army.
> Armed Forces. I've worked with many veterans, including combat
> veterans, and I've never had the misfortune to work with somebody as
> ridiculous as this person. One of my current coworkers is an
> ex-Ranger (US Army Airborne), and he is one of the most friendly and
> helpful people you could have on the job with you.
>
> Second, as my grandpa used to say, "them what talks about it ain't
> doin' it." The more Mr. Kulkis talks about "defending" his country,
> the more convinced I am he has never done any such thing. In fact, a
> little contemplation of current events will recall to everyone that
> our country has not been threatened militarily in many decades.
> Unless Mr. Kulkis is in his dotage, he has never served in combat to
> "defend" the United States. Although, perhaps he took part in the
> "turkey shoot" in Iraq 10 years ago, shooting fleeing civilians in the
> back; or subsequently bulldozing the wounded into trenches and burying
> them alive. That does not qualify as "defending" the United States in
> any way.
>
> You can lead a fool to an idea, but you can't make him think. Give
> the guy a wide berth and at least some of the pity he deserves. He's
> probably as big a loser in the real world as he is in the virtual
> one.
>
> mp
>
> --
> Man has sold his soul for time, language, tools, weapons, and
> dominance. And to make sure he doesn't get out of line, these
> invaders keep an occupying garrison in his nondominant brain
> hemisphere. -- William Burroughs
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Mircosoft Tax
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:48:30 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Keldon Warlord 2000
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
on Wed, 28 Feb 2001 18:56:56 -0800
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>"Peter Hayes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> On Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:16:31 -0800, "Keldon Warlord 2000"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > if WindowsXP can handle *my* games, then Emperor Gates can count me in
>> > again!
>>
>> You swap your Voodoo 5500 for the next version (6000?).
>>
>
>Voodoo went out of bussiness...what rock did you crawl out from under???
Even better!
"Windows Bah Humbug has detected that you have purchased your hardware from
an unregistered vendor. Please purchase new hardware from the supported
list, then try reregistering (don't forget the $500 fee).
[Shutdown] [Show me vendor list]"
(Oh yeah, that'll go over *real* well.)
[rest snipped for brevity]
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- but at least ones kneecaps aren't broken
EAC code #191 24d:16h:17m actually running Linux.
Darn. Just when this message was getting good, too.
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE or DOJ ?
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 12:00:00 -0600
"Roberto Alsina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:97lmrq$pgdep$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
> > "Gary Hallock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> > Is this one of those things, like your criticism of OS/2, whereby one
> >> > system having features or options that another doesn't is a strike
> >> > against the first on the grounds of it being "too complicated"?
> >>
> >> No, this is Erik just blowing smoke. KDE 2.1 has been out for only 2
> >> days. There is no way he has even tried it, let alone extensively.
> >
> > I used KDE 2.0 quite a bit. I can't imagine that 2.1 has changed it
that
> > radically in only the last 2 or 3 months since 2.0 was released.
>
> Man are you going to be surprised when you try it ;-)
>
> One review called the changes "akin to those between windows 95 and 98".
If that's the case, I appologize for assuming they were roughly the same.
I'll refrain from comment about 2.1 until I get the chance to try it.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kulkis: please trim the sig
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 12:50:00 -0500
Ray Chason wrote:
>
> Brent R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Where's meow?
>
> Keeping Kooklis company in my killfile. Now, why did you repost an
> entire Kooklis rant just to post this one line?
>
To annoy you.
> --
> --------------===============<[ Ray Chason ]>===============--------------
> PGP public key at http://www.smart.net/~rchason/pubkey.asc
> Delenda est Windoze
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jay Maynard)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,misc.int-property
Subject: Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, was Why open source software is better
Date: 1 Mar 2001 17:49:18 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 01 Mar 2001 15:38:30 +0000, Edward Rosten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Indeed. Personally, if the GNU OS was finished in 1991 when Linux first
>> hit the street, why the hell did it take until 2000 to complete? That
>> makes it even more vaporous than any M$ product.
>It didn't take until 2000 to hit the street. Slackware started selling it
>in 1993 IIRC and it was avaliable for download before then.
You could buy a copy of Hurd in 1993?
The GNU OS is NOT Linux. The GNU OS is Hurd. Hurd had been vaporware for many
years until it finally hit the street in 2000.
Maybe RMS' jealousy is based on the fact that Linus showed him to be the
blowhard has-been that he really is. What has RMS *done* lately besides
pontificate? He's not doing gcc any more (thank $DEITY)...what else?
Tinkering with EMACS? Big fat hairy deal.
>Well, I disagree. Without GNU, Linux would be nowhere. A kernel on its
>own is not an operating system. How do you think Linux suddenly went from
>baing a kernel to an operating system? It did that because 90% of the
>operating system had already been written by GNU. All the components are
>essential. Claiming that one is somehow more deserving than the others is
>silly.
By your logic, then, it should be called Intel/Linux...after all, without
the i386, Linux would be nowhere, too.
Besides, there's nothing that says that Linus couldn't have used the BSD
toolchain and utilities to build the system to start with. The GNU utilities
were handy. Further, even now, well under half the OS is GUNish, unless you
creatively define the line to only include the GNU stuff.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: MS Price Strategy (was Microsoft Tax)
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 12:52:00 -0500
WarpKat wrote:
>
> I've actually asked a full $180 (or whatever the cost of Windows currently
> is) to be deducted from a laptop that I had no intention of running Windows
> on. The sales person laughed at me. I hung up. 'nuff said.
>
Better to talk to a supervisor, and inform said supervisor of
said order-taker's lack of customer service skills.
> David Brown wrote:
>
> > Here is a fascinating site, which includes links to back up most of its
> > claims:
> > http://www.vcnet.com/bms/departments/dirtytricks.shtml
> >
> > A quotation from it is applicable to the Microsoft Tax thread:
> >
> > We have increased our prices over the last 10 years [while] other
> > component
> > prices have come down and continue to come down.
> >
> > JOACHIM KEMPIN, Microsoft Senior Vice President
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE or DOJ ?
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 12:02:24 -0600
"Roberto Alsina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:97lmut$pgdep$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> > Not just too complicated, but confusing, inconsistent, prone to failure
> > and
> > slow. The KDE panel configuration tool is an exercise in futility. I
> > spent
> > days trying to add panels in Mandrake 7.2, and they wouldn't appear. I
> > thought maybe I had to restart KDE for them to be visible, but no go.
The
> > panels appeard in the panel editor, but didn't appear in the menus. It
> > was
> > just goofy. (this was KDE 2.0 upgraded to the release version).
> >
> > Now, you're right. I'm talking about 2.0 and not 2.1, but I can't
imagine
> > it's changed that much in such a short amount of time.
>
> The panel in particular has changed a real lot.
>
> But anyway, what do you mean by "adding extra panels"? KDE 2.0 only
> supported one panel. On KDE 2.1, it's RMB on the
> panel->Add->Extension->Child panel.
Perhaps my terminology is not accurate here. My understanding was that a
"panel" was an entry in the menus, but from your words here I take it that a
"panel" is the entire menu. In which case, I mean that entries in the panel
would not appear.
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c
Subject: Re: [OT] .sig
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 12:53:08 -0500
Bill Godfrey wrote:
>
> Joona I Palaste <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > >>Finnish girls are good, but the girls to the immediate west
> > >>are even better.
>
> > This is the first time Aaron said something I agree to.
>
> There are girls in the Gulf of Bothnia? Doesn't it get cold?
Just like cats, girls are always friendliest when they are cold.
>
> Bill, is quite aware that northern Finland shares a border
> with Sweden, thank you very much.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: Tony Chatum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: questions (windows & Mac)....?
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 11:47:06 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Shane Phelps
& dropped Mac prices (instead of playing with every neat gadget that
> came along)
>
> System 6 was far better for the user than Windows 3.x, so Apple could
> have headed MS off at the pass. Scully and Jobs were too busy fighting
> at the time to concentrate on cultivating the developers and pushing
> the Mac as a superior alternative to Windows.
Jobs wasn't around when Windows 3 was released. So Jobs has yet to play
his cards against MS... It's still too early in the PC industry to see
who the final winner will be.
TONY
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Drazen Kacar)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,misc.int-property
Subject: Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, was Why open source software is better
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 17:57:42 +0000 (UTC)
Jay Maynard wrote:
> were handy. Further, even now, well under half the OS is GUNish, unless you
> creatively define the line to only include the GNU stuff.
If it wasn't called GNU, then one could draw the line at Single Unix
Specification and say that the base OS contains of kernel, interfaces and
utilities described in SUS. Just for the purpose of counting. But since
GNU is not Unix, SUS doesn't apply.
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