Linux-Advocacy Digest #270, Volume #33 Mon, 2 Apr 01 04:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: ATTN: Outlook Express Users and Virus's ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Why does Open Source exist, and what way is it developing? ("Beth")
Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Formatting a floppy ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Baseball ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: My take on GPLed code as free software (was: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and
lies about free software) (Rob S. Wolfram)
Re: My take on GPLed code as free software (was: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and
lies about free software) (Rob S. Wolfram)
Re: US Navy carrier to adopt Win2k infrastructure ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ATTN: Outlook Express Users and Virus's
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 03:36:01 -0400
GreyCloud wrote:
>
> Matthew Gardiner wrote:
> >
> > You poor barstard, putting up with all the dire crap made up by Septic Tanks.
> >
> > Matthew Gardiner
> >
> > Roy Culley wrote:
> >
> > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > > GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > >
> > > > Actually, I'm quite fond of British humour. I liked Allo' Allo' and
> > > > "Are you being served?" What is the latest over there currently
> > > > running?
> > >
> > > Those are hardly good examples of british humour. Like anyone else
> > > we have bad as well as good comedy. Having been out of the UK for
> > > about 15 years I can't say what great comedy programs they have
> > > now (I do get BBC Prime but the comedy on that is either on a par
> > > with "Are you being served?" or repeats of Black Adder). Great
> > > British humour was the likes of Monty Python, Not the Nine O'Clock
> > > News, Spitting Image, etc. I presume, hope, that they still produce
> > > comedy of this uniquely british kind.
>
> Pretty much accurate "Septic Tanks". If TV over here doesn't improve
> I'll just let my TV keep running till it croaks and not buy another one.
>
> --
> V
I quit watching in 1983, and haven't missed it.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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Reply-To: "Beth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Beth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why does Open Source exist, and what way is it developing?
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 08:33:53 +0100
Wilbert Kruithof wrote:
> Evolution in software compared to biological evolution: two points of
> discussion
First off, you can just use the more generic term: "evolution"...
Evolution is NOT a "biology only" thing...basically, anything that has a
number of interdependent systems "competing" will experience the fundamental
mechanisms of evolution: fitness, [natural] selection, "gene"s, etc...
Dawkins (though thoroughly misguided in many other regards) has already
extended the notion of evolution to thoughts, as memes...but, basically, any
system that has a number of interdependent subsystems will experience
evolution...it stands to reason when you understand the basics of evolution,
if you think about it...
Note, also, that evolution does NOT guarantee you the best solution...no
way, no how...it generally favours the minimal to "pass the test"...thus,
Windoze succeeds because it's minimal expense and is "naturally selectable"
(for whatever reason...mostly a lack of choice and immense propoganda :)...
That is, if an entity lacks some required ability to survive in its
environment, it'll be under environmental pressure (via natural selection or
consumer selection - or, to be generic, just "selection" of any sort :) to
evolve such an ability...BUT, note, once that entity has developed a basic
mechanism to survive, the environmental pressure subsides...there is no more
"pressure" for it to continue to evolve that mechanism into a better
state...it gives up once it reaches the MINIMAL mechanism required
(although, environmental pressure may start building up again so the
"minimal" standard is raised :)...so, this means that you get the MINIMAL
mechanism necessary to "pass" NOT the best mechanism...a common
misconception of evolution that...
> 1: There are *many* people developing on OSS, and with different
> cultures, languages, and, very important, ideas. Guaranteed good
> discussion about what's the best solution for many of things, i.e.
> critical and different attitude towards implementation of problems. So,
> much variation, if one idea fails when putting in practice, there is a
> chance another one will overtake it. If this happens in a company,
> another one will overtake his position, but it may not have any idea
> what was going wrong with the previous company. So, each time it's
> falling back, while evolution builds on the past, so does OSS.
Yes; There are many parallels between OS evolution and biological evolution
(but do NOT "do a Dawkins" and take your analogy too far...they are NOT
identical, just theoretically equal :)...
> 2: Biological evolution codes their program in four-letter-language,
> ATCG (adenosine, thymine, guanosine and cytosine (last one is in Dutch))
> in DNA, and of course uracil instead of adenosine in RNA. And then, with
> a three-letter-word, for example (GCC:), it codes a protein. And in the
> ribosomes, they are connected to each other. And this builds for example
> a human.
> Software codes their program in 2-letter words, 0 and 1 or A and B or...
> And this all is developed on a "protein" level, or higher one.
> So, the main difference between biological and software coding is their
> level on which they are encoding. If you're writing VB, you are on
> relative high level, but you can also code on machine language, lower
> than DNA.
> OK, coding is done. And what do we do with this source?? Biological
> evolution is based on competition for reproduction (Thanks Mark:). So
> does OSS. But what does closed source software?? It's based on making
> money, not on making a good job. *Their* work produces money, money to
> better fit in competition for reproduction.
Yes; As it is perceived that making money is the measure of "fitness" in our
consumer society...so, as I stated above, OSes will be developed to that
environmental pressure...once you start making sufficient money, then that's
"good enough" and quality of software or societial responsibility to
community is NOT considered important consideration because the measure of
"fitness" that we all appear to agree on is money (which does not take
account of such things)...
Basically, I see the difference between open source and closed source would
be effectively the notion of asexual and sexual reproduction respectively...
A closed source project will only evolve gradually, internally "asexually"
but open source can get its "genes" from a number of places, and so is
developing "sexually", so to speak...
Both methods of reproduction work and there are organisms that use them (in
fact, there are even organisms that can reproduce both ways according to the
availability of sexual partners :)...although, it is often perceived that
sexual reproduction is better because it will cope with "mutation" better
(common misconception of evolution #2: NOTHING wants to evolve...things
mostly actively fight against mutation, in fact...it just happens DESPITE
every effort to the contrary :)...
Ok...what you think about the idea of open source being akin to a bit of
hanky-panky, where closed source is like one of those mushrooms that gets
itself pregnant? hehehe ;)
Beth :)
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 03:42:00 -0400
"Joseph T. Adams" wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Paul Holloway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> : Ok, troll boy, I'll give you have a chance here.
>
> : What major Constitutional violations are currently being perpetrated?
>
> Read the Constitution, and you'll be able to answer that for yourself.
>
> I've alluded to some of them in other posts on this thread, but a
> detailed listing would be far beyond the scope of a USENET posting.
> And others already have chronicled them in far more detail than I
> could hope to.
>
> : How do we currently have an "oligarchy".
>
> It is very obvious if you follow the money.
>
> A handful of wealthy individuals, families, and institutions control
> the media, the government, most large businesses, most of the supposed
> "grassroots" movements (on BOTH sides), both major parties,
> "education," and everything else that matters.
>
> The left clearly sees the corporate side of this oligarchy; the right
> clearly sees the government and union side. Both are correct. But
> they don't realize that for the most part it is the same folks in
> charge of all of these.
>
Translation:
The Democrats are right, the Republicans ARE a bunch of Fascists AND
the Republicans are right, the Democrats ARE a bunch of Communists.
The two facts are NOT mutually exclusive.
> : By the way, the US is not a democracy, it's a republic. Maybe you
> : meant "......masquerading as a republic?".
>
> No, I meant what I said. Most of our alleged leaders defend
> "democracy," which is not even remotely similar to a republic. And it
> is very clear that we are becoming less like a republic, and more like
> a democracy (at least superficially), all the time.
Because of their incessant propaganda.
I like how a Federal judge threw out a Colorado law that came by way of
ballot referendum on the grounds that it didn't pass the Constitution's
mandate that the US guarantees that EACH STATE shall be a republic.
Heheheheh
In fact, it was this very case which alerted me to the fact that, at the
state and federal level, Democracy is illegal in the United States.
>
> Joe
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Formatting a floppy
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 03:43:10 -0400
GreyCloud wrote:
>
> "Stephen S. Edwards II" wrote:
> >
> > GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > : "Stephen S. Edwards II" wrote:
> >
> > 8<SNIP>8
> >
> > : I thought I smelled smoke several threads away. :-)
> > : Sometimes its hard to keep the topic of this thread together.
> > : My wifes PeeCee (HP) with an HP scanner and software during a scan
> > : session, is almost unresponsive to a cancel command. You are right
> > : about the hardware side of things regarding the PC hardware and its
> > : performance under loading conditions.
> > : Things just bog down. If I was a rich man I'd probably look into an
> >
> > Indeed they do. What stuck in my craw was the
> > way Mr. "Manilow" was claiming that BeOS's
> > multitasking was "maybe" better than WindowsNT's
> > and that OS/2 could run hundreds of applications
> > with absolutely no performance penalties. Anyone
> > who's ever used PC hardware knows that this is
> > impossible under any PC operating system, simply
> > because of the limitations of the hardware.
> >
> > : Alpha or Sparc III. But I'm not and have to face the realities and
> > : limitations of what I can afford. I can get a low end sparc for $950
> > : new, but I'd have to see what it can do for me.
> >
> > You can get a good SGI Indy used for about $700-$800
> > as well. Heck, you can sometimes find a 21" 13w3
> > monitor for about $250. It's a bit cheaper to
> > invest in older workstations than in newer consumer
> > lever PC technology these days.
> >
> > * Holds up a shiny CD with the BSD daemon on it,
> > and smiles for the camera...
> >
> > <SHAMELESS PLUG>
> > And if you don't care for IRIX, or SunOS, you
> > could always put NetBSD on either one.
> > </SHAMELESS PLUG>
> >
> > : In earlier days, on the old venerable VAX 785, we added a graphics
> > : terminal to it and installed Regis support. That poor old machine
> > : really slogged down just running one fractal program. But then again we
> > : only had at most three users logged on. Had to back away from that
> >
> > And you have to figure that back then, graphics
> > were anything but a priority for computer systems.
> >
> > In the 1960's computer graphics, complete with
> > phong shading, and animated sequences was very
> > much alive, but people just didn't see any
> > practical uses for it, so hardware wasn't
> > really designed with anything but text-based
> > applications in mind, I gather.
>
> Yes, the text based solutions were all that we needed back then. But,
> when bigger demands for tougher problems came about, sometimes simple
> graphic drawings or representations were needed. The Sutherland
> graphics systems that was in another dept. having to do with ship hull
> designs was rather interesting... and only the gov. could afford things
> like that then.
>
> I ran into the same problem at work you have encountered here regarding
> pcs. On the vax one user, a trs-80 owner, wanted to use the basic on
> the machine. Ok, so I set him up an account. Later he came back
> belly-aching because the basic had no LPRINT command. I told him "of
> course it doesn't". You have to write to a named print queue to do
> that. Further, if he wanted it to be general purpose he'd have to study
> up on the system services and call the appropriate routines. He just
> walked away and said the vax was a piece of crap. Oh well...
Having programmed both Vaxes AND 8080-family machines...what a nut
that guy was.
> --
> V
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Baseball
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 03:45:35 -0400
Giuliano Colla wrote:
>
> Chad Everett wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, 01 Apr 2001 01:36:55 GMT, Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >GreyCloud wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Anonymous wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > mike wrote:
> > >> > > Tomorrow I go see the Mariners play the Cardinals. Folks are
> > >> > > expecting Mark McGwire to hit the ball completely out of the new
> > >> > > stadium and be the first player to do so. My neighbor came over this
> > >> > > morning with four tickets for the game, front row directly behind home
> > >> > > plate. His employer -- a microsoft billionaire -- gave him the
> > >> > > tickets. This means that Windows is superior to Linux.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Where are the
> > >> > > Linux billionaires?
> >
> > And there, in a nut shell, is the Microsoft argument for superiority. Thank
> > you very much for proving, without a doubt, that Windows advocates are
> > are, shall we say, *confused*.
> >
>
> As a foreigner, one of the things I appreciate the most of the English
> language, is the elegance of the understatements.
>
How does that work in Italian (I don't know Italian, but I had 3 1/2 years
of Spanish, so I can relate).
> --
> Giuliano Colla
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob S. Wolfram)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,misc.int-property
Subject: Re: My take on GPLed code as free software (was: Richard Stallman what a
tosser, and lies about free software)
Date: 2 Apr 2001 06:23:33 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Austin Ziegler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 30 Mar 2001, Rob S. Wolfram wrote:
>> Les Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> If something can't be distributed to you, how do you manage to use it?
>> You can't. Does that make distributing and using the same thing? Does
>> that mean that GPLed software cannot be distributed at all?
>
>In the case of GPLed software, extension and distribution are a form of
>use. Others have contested this -- but it's a reality, not a
>supposition.
Extension yes, distribution, no. Distribution is part of the process of
selling or sharing, not using. Do you have anything to convince me of
the opposite?
Cheers,
Rob
--
Rob S. Wolfram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> OpenPGP key 0xD61A655D
A bore is someone who persists in holding his own views after we
have enlightened him with ours.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob S. Wolfram)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,misc.int-property
Subject: Re: My take on GPLed code as free software (was: Richard Stallman what a
tosser, and lies about free software)
Date: 2 Apr 2001 06:44:22 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Les Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Rob S. Wolfram" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> No, my point was that even though the bug may have been fixed in the
>> versions of the code as included with free systems, I am still at the
>> mercy of the closed software vendor to fix the bug in the version I'm
>> using. This instantiation of free code can not be used freely.
>
>One reason for paying extra for closed source software is
>that the vendor does in fact fix the bugs before you get it and
>does a better job than you can do yourself. Of course there
>are popular examples where this has not been the case, but
>that does not mean you should eliminate the possibility.
I don't eliminiate the possibility, but those popular examples are
precisely what I mean with "being at the mercy of". Thanks for helping
my case.
>> Still, the purpose of the GPL (i.e. unencumbered/free *use* of every
>> copy of the software) is clearly met. You can consider the software
>> non-free because you are restricted in distributing it, but don't call
>> me a lyer or deceiver because I have a different point of view. The
>> *use* *is* free so I have every right to call it free software.
>
>You can't use something that can't be distributed to you. You are
>skewing your view by only considering the existing software that
>meets the GPL requirements and is thus not affected by the restrictions.
>Consider instead all of the potential combinations that might exist
>and without the restrictions might be allowed to be distributed to
>you. Then you might understand that the GPL'd code is not at
>all free to be distributed or used by you in those situations.
GPLed software *can* be distributed to you, only not in a fashion that
you or someone else in the distribution line can prevent any freedom of
use of that software. I see no reason why all those wonderful
combinations cannot be GPLed as a whole.
>> I asked for an example where the GPL has prevented *using*, not
>> *sharing* the software.
>
>Everyone who could not obtain that program was prevented from
>using it. You can play all the word games you want, but they could
>not use it as a direct result of the GPL.
As a direct result of the GPL *AND* the fact that you were unwilling to
GPL the resulting program.
>> >If something can't be distributed to you, how do you manage to use it?
>> You can't. Does that make distributing and using the same thing? Does
>> that mean that GPLed software cannot be distributed at all?
>
>Unless you are a programmer and willing to repeat the work of building
>a program that combines GPL and non-GPL components, you cannot
>use it.
Because you don't have it? Of course not! As far as such a user is
concerned such program does not exist.
>Thus for most people, the ability for someone to distribute a
>program to you is an absolute requirement for using it. GPLed software
>where the 'work as a whole' meets the GPL requirements is not affected
>by the restrictions and can thus be distributed and used. But those very
>non-free restrictions prevent any of that code from being used in a
>near-infinite set of combinations with other code by people who are unable
>to build those programs themselves.
It's not only the GPL that prevents this, it's the GPL *in combination
with* the unwillingness of the programmer to GPL the result that really
prevents this.
The GPL was carefully crafted to prevent "embrace and extend" by less
honest parties, based on GPLed code. You still have not provided me with
a single example where someone was limited in the use of a piece of
GPLed software that they have. I'd say that their freedom to use the
software as they please does qualify it as "free software".
Cheers,
Rob
--
Rob S. Wolfram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> OpenPGP key 0xD61A655D
Mr. Cole's Axiom:
The sum of the intelligence on the planet is a constant; the
population is growing.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: US Navy carrier to adopt Win2k infrastructure
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 03:46:05 -0400
Peter K�hlmann wrote:
>
> The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
> > In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Aaron R. Kulkis
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote
> >>
> >>I have two IDENTICAL machines at home...one with Linux, one with
> >>Windows.
> >>
> >>The Linux machine is stable. I have tried every hardware swap
> >>imaginable between these two machines to get either
> >>
> >>a) the Windows98 machine to quit crashing, or
> >>b) the Linux machine to start crashing.
> >>
> >>So far, I have yet to discover *ANY* combination of hardware which
> >>improves the reliability of Windows, nor *ANY combination of the SAME
> >>PIECES OF HARDWARE which provokes Linux to crash.
> >>
> >>I even thought of the possibility that Windows makes the CPU get hotter:
> >>The Windows machine even has more fans (about DOUBLE the air-flow rate
> >>through the case).
> >
>
> Well, well, Aaron,
> now it gets funny. *You* as "Unix System engineer" should know that
> a machine running Win98 (the one your Netscape is running on) *do*
> run hotter than the same machine running linux, because the wintendo-OS�s
> simply *never* put the processor into HALT. It is running all the time
> full speed ahead.
>
> I would have expected to have at least that basic knowledge from someone
> claiming to have written his own little multiuser/multitasking system,
> another lie from our beloved war hero, who still hasn�t figured out how
> to get rid of his absurd Sig.
Ever been in a war?
I have.
Hope that helps.
> Peter
>
> --
> Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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