Linux-Advocacy Digest #270, Volume #26 Wed, 26 Apr 00 14:13:43 EDT
Contents:
Re: Where is PostScript support?? (Lee Sau Dan)
Re: The truth is often painful... ("Gabriele Del Giovine")
Re: which OS is best? (Donal K. Fellows)
Re: 5 Common Mistakes 52645523 (Mark S. Bilk)
Re: Government to break up Microsoft (Darren Winsper)
Re: Government to break up Microsoft ("Otto")
Re: i cant blieve you people!! (Thingfishhhh)
Re: which OS is best? (Pascal Haakmat)
Re: Red Hat Linux Backdoor Password Vulnerability ("JC Nieukoop")
Re: The truth is often painful... (Truckasaurus)
Re: The truth is often painful... (Truckasaurus)
Re: Linux Sucks and Windows 2000 RULEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ (Truckasaurus)
Re: Red Hat Linux Backdoor Password Vulnerability ("JC Nieukoop")
Re: Beer Tosser a Sabre Fan? Nope. (Brad)
Re: i cant blieve you people!! (rj friedman)
IBM dumping more shares of RedHat ("Chad Myers")
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From: Lee Sau Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Where is PostScript support??
Date: 26 Apr 2000 17:49:47 +0800
>>>>> "Stephen" == Stephen Cornell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Stephen> I caught the Unix habit when I was a physicist. All
Stephen> articles are written in TeX, all figures prepared in
Stephen> postscript, and talks were given with hand-written OHP
Stephen> slides. Now that I'm working in biology,
...
Stephen> However, I still haven't found a satisfactory way of
Stephen> preparing decent presentations. It is de rigueur to give
Stephen> conference talks on-line from one's laptop.
...
I've used TeX + xdvi for that purpose many many times. Simply say
"\documentclass{slides}" and it generates nice looking slides, which
can be printed onto transparencies or shown using a VGA projector.
Xdvi does Antialiasing, and hence still looks very nice even on low
resolution (but TrueColor) projectors. (I haven't tried this with
pdfLaTeX yet, but it should be possible and would generate a PDF
file for the slides.)
Stephen> The problem starts with the fact that I produce
Stephen> postscript figures for publication, and then want to
Stephen> include them in my talks.
Xdvi, on teTeX distribution, can recognize postscript \specials and
hand them to GNU ghostscript for rendering. I have no problem
importing gnuplot graphs and xfig pictures into my slides.
Stephen> The only way I have been able
Stephen> to do this up to now is by preparing bitmap files of
Stephen> these, which need careful handling to ensure they appear
Stephen> at the correct resolution on-screen.
...
Why don't you blame windows for not supporting *Display Postscript*?
Why don't you blame windows programmers for not generating pictures in
Postscript -- a defacto standard for publishing -- and for displaying
Postscript data by invoking ***free*** GNU ghostscript?
Stephen> The way that Windows scores, for my purposes, is not that
Stephen> truetype font rendering is much faster and that
Stephen> PowerPoint has all those cute special effects,
Well... my experience is that PowerPoint generates ugly glyphs in case
of low resolution (e.g. 640x480) projectors. It doesn't does
antialiasing. Moreover, PowerPoint defaults to use a serif font --
Times New Roman, which makes things even worse on low resolution
displays. It's too common to see a broken lowercase letter "c" with
PowerPoint presentations.
LaTeX, OTOH, does the right thing. It defaults to a sansserif font,
which remains pretty legible even on low-resolution projectors and
viewed from a distant.
Stephen> but in the existence of the Windows metafile.
What's wrong with Postscript, given that a *free* rendering program
already exist?
--
Lee Sau Dan ���u��(Big5) ~{@nJX6X~}(HZ)
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From: "Gabriele Del Giovine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The truth is often painful...
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 10:59:48 +0200
"Bastian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>And it certainly
> crashes if you have written more than 20 pages...
A better perfomance than StarOffice (4 pages) and Corel WordPerfect (1 word)
Bye.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donal K. Fellows)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.flame.macintosh
Subject: Re: which OS is best?
Date: 26 Apr 2000 10:15:27 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Josiah Fizer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I see lots of books on Macs and how to use Netscape, strange seeing
> as they are both simple concepts.
I still find the title _iMac for Dummies_ funny.
Donal (small things amuse small minds... :^)
--
Donal K. Fellows http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~fellowsd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-- The small advantage of not having California being part of my country would
be overweighed by having California as a heavily-armed rabid weasel on our
borders. -- David Parsons <o r c @ p e l l . p o r t l a n d . o r . u s>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark S. Bilk)
Subject: Re: 5 Common Mistakes 52645523
Date: 26 Apr 2000 10:31:32 GMT
In article <8e5l5p$m7j$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 1. Don't Gamble when tired.
>> 2. Don't Gamble when hungry.
>> 3. Don't Gamble when distracted.
>> 4. Don't Gamble with Money you need.
>> 5. Once won, the money is yours. You are not playing on free money.
>> 6. Check out this site!
>>
>> http://www.go2jackpots.com/3355
>>
>
>7. Don't post when drunk.
He's not drunk, he's a scam artist trying to get people to
go to that website, so that when they get ripped off, he'll
get a cut for steering them there. The number in the Subject
header, and maybe the one in the URL, serve to identify him
to the website operators; I tried 3355, 3255, and 3055 in the
URL, and they all lead to the same page. The operators are
paying spammers to bring in new suckers.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Darren Winsper)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Government to break up Microsoft
Date: 26 Apr 2000 11:13:43 GMT
On Wed, 26 Apr 2000 03:12:49 GMT, Otto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Many, meaning 90+% of the desktop users. Your case doesn't fall under that,
> nor does mine. Welcome to the world of minorities...
> For most people the Windows is a better desktop OS.
My mother is as average as they get, and she was perfectly happy with
Star Office. I only put her back on Word because the people at her
work kept on sending Word documents that Star Office wouldn't load.
My father doesn't want to move his small business to Windows, but he's
having to in order to stay compatible. CLAIT courses no longer seem to
be about computer literacy, but about learning Microsoft Office.
I still keep in touch with my old headmaster from primary school. Up
until recently, he used a Mac but switched to a PC running Windows98
for some software. The grief he gets from it is rediculous. At times,
the machine just slows to a crawl, despite not having much running and
the noticable lack of disk-thrashing associated with heavy swapping.
A friend of mine likes installing software onto his Win98 PC. He'll
install anything he thinks he might be able to make use of. He now
considers reinstalling every couple of months or so routine.
I was playing the Klingon Acadamy demo the other day while downloading
a 20MB patch for something. Once the download completed IE tried to
bring up the "download complete" dialog (Presumably) and the machine
just froze. Reset button time. At least with Linux I can connect the
laptop across the room and ssh in to kill whatever's causing trouble.
I have had *one* crash in longer than 6 months that can be attributed
to a kernel bug, and that was yesterday. It wasn't a pretty sight, but
it is to expected from a 2.3 kernel. Windows locks me out around once
a week, and I'm on Linux around 80% of the time I'm at this machine.
Consumers *put up* with Windows. They consider it a neccesary evil.
--
Darren Winsper (El Capitano) - ICQ #8899775
Stellar Legacy project member - http://www.stellarlegacy.tsx.org
DVD boycotts. Are you doing your bit?
This message was typed before a live studio audience.
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From: "Otto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Government to break up Microsoft
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 11:41:12 GMT
"JEDIDIAH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >Many, meaning 90+% of the desktop users. Your case doesn't fall under
that,
> >nor does mine. Welcome to the world of minorities...
> >For most people the Windows is a better desktop OS.
>
> This rather assumes the great lie that the vast majority of any of that
> 90% ever had the opportunity to choose freely.
And your statement is the great lie, assumes that the wast majority of the
people was forced to buy the Windows platform. Let me just set the record
straight, nobody is forced to buy any computer with Windows. People do have
a choice and they can choose freely. They can shop around and explore
different options. Most of them don't even bother with it, others do and
still end up buying Windows PCs. Some of them will switch to Apple, or any
other platforms. The opportunities are there, always had been. Even for that
90+%.
>
> Windows is a mediocre desktop OS. It's immediate predecessor just
> happened to become dominant due to market intertia.
Or rather it was the "others" inability to gain wide spread acceptance. They
didn't recognize that quality in itself doesn't make the product successful.
Usability and price does on the other hand, the "good enough" platform won.
If quality would be the sole criteria for buying a product, then everybody
would drive $100K cars.
Otto
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From: Thingfishhhh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: i cant blieve you people!!
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 04:47:07 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ciaran
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I agree. I was watching the TV the other day in wake of the "big
> drop" in tech stocks the other day and some guy(who was
> apparently an expert on IT stocks) was saying that the result of
> this drop was that people were going to be more careful in
> future. He said that investors may have to look into what an
> company is actually doing before investing. What ??? *May* have
> to look into ??? Does this mean that up until now investors have
> been throwing money at random companies in the hope of making
> money ?
>
> Being just a little 'puter programmer, I know as much about the
> stock exchange as the average broker knows about dereferencing
> pointers... but what the hell is going on with this ?
It means every yuppie with a computer, a browser and a credit card
became "day traders", and threw money at every dot.com they could find,
on the advice of friends and strangers, with frenzied dreams of fortunes
and new SUVs behind every trade.
Netscape, I believe started the whole trend - they were the first to get
a LOT of press, and people got $$$$ in their eyes.
It's always amusing to have someone I know in the office or among my
friends, people who are usually too dumb to even use a web browser,
babble about IPOs and stocks. They hear stories about riches people have
made, and have jumped on this year's fad with abandon.
"Hey, I heard about this really COOL website that sells ferret kidneys
online, it's the next hot thing! They're gonna IPO soon, want in?"
'Yeah, man, here's all my savings! I'll retire RICH!!!! I'll never work
again!!!! Muahahahahaha!"
Because of online trading (which I'm not against), and the fact that
yuppies are now their own brokers, you get this result - a market
sensitive to fluctuations from the whims and fears of untrained and
uneducated people who have no F'ing clue what they are doing.
The best advice I've ever heard about investing is "don't use money you
can't afford to have disappear overnight". But there's so much media and
social attention on the get-rich-quick!!! aspects of day trading, people
are jumping in with no research and no thought.
Day Trading, to me, has replaced the late night infomercial "I made
miilions selling real estate!" scams. Remember how everyone became a
real estate investor in the late 80's and in the 90's, at least here in
the Bay Area? Well, now all those same people are Day Traders, or
selling "advice" on how to do it.
Bah. I'd rather go to Reno or Vegas - you get better odds.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pascal Haakmat)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.flame.macintosh
Subject: Re: which OS is best?
Date: 26 Apr 2000 12:08:04 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>On 25 Apr 2000 18:14:03 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pascal Haakmat) wrote:
>
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>>Nevertheless, clicking on an icon for a drive letter and clicking
>>>sharing seems, to me, to be something far easier for most people to
>>>digest, remember, and do.
>>
>>I tried to help my mother install a CD over the phone once. Hilarious, if
>>exhausting:
>>
>>"Click the grey thing labelled C:; it's below the blue thing."
>>
>>"There is no blue thing."
>>
>>"Yes there is, it's the top of the window."
>>
>>"Oh yeah. What should I do?"
>>
>>"Click the grey thing labelled C: beneath it."
>>
>>"There is no grey thing beneath it?"
>>
>>"Well, there is a menu ..."
>>
>>"I see that."
>>
>>"... And below that there's a grey bar with some icons on them."
>>
>>"OK. Should I click it?"
>>
>>"Yes."
>>
>>"Nothing happens."
>>
>>"Where is your mouse now?"
>>
>>"It's at the grey thing."
>>
>>"Do you see C: on the screen?"
>>
>>"Yes, here it is."
>>
>>"Click it."
>>
>>"Nothing."
>>
>>"Did you click the grey thing labelled C:?"
>>
>>"No, I clicked a yellow thing labelled C:."
>>
>>"OK, click the grey thing ..."
>>
>>And so forth. It did work out eventually.
>
>Right-click on START at the lower left. Left click on EXPLORE. Find
>C: in the far left hand column.
It just doesn't work that way. You have to know where to look. Even in your
scenario, which presupposes Win9x (my mother still uses Win3.11), the
conversation would be more like:
"Right-click on START at the lower left."
"Right-click?"
"Use the right mouse button to click on START."
"OK, now what?"
"Use the left mouse button to click on 'explore'."
"There is no explore."
"Yes there is, in the menu."
"Wait, here it is, oh, now it's gone!"
"How did that happen?"
"I don't know ..."
"Never mind, right-click START again and then left-click 'explore'."
<silence>
"Does that work?"
"Wait a second, I'm doing it."
etc.
--
CSMA posting style test
http://awacs.dhs.org/csmatest
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From: "JC Nieukoop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Red Hat Linux Backdoor Password Vulnerability
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 14:03:24 +0200
"Stefan Ohlsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Chad Myers wrote:
> >Seeing as how a simple buffer overrun was mistreated as a "backdoor" that
was
> >purposely placed by Microsoft, I thought it was only fitting to see how
> >Open Sores can fall victim to the same thing.
> >
> >http://xforce.iss.net/alerts/advise46.php3
>
> >"With this backdoor password, an attacker could compromise the web server
as
> >well as deface and destroy the web site."
> >
> "If the affected "piranha-gui" package is installed and the
> [default] password has not been changed by the administrator, the
> system is vulnerable."
>
> So, if the admin installs the package and does not alter the default
> password, then people who know this default password can log in.
> Any secutiry-concious admin would change it upon installing.
>
> /Stefan
> --
> [ Stefan Ohlsson ] � http://www.mds.mdh.se/~dal95son/ � [ ICQ# 17519554 ]
>
> Gabe: [burning stolen money] It costs a fortune to heat this place.
> /Cliffhanger
I don't see how he is supposed to do this since the password was
undocumented. That makes it a backdoor and a security issue.
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From: Truckasaurus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The truth is often painful...
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 12:09:28 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Opinionated <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> mh wrote:
>
> > A lot of half-truths and diatribes here, but the simple truth is
this:
> > when it comes to business oriented desktop software Linux
applications
> > are AT LEAST TWO GENERATIONS BEHIND the stuff Microsoft produces.
>
> I use business oriented desktop software for Software and have found
them
> to be much more reliable than MS products. Applixware & Star Office
have
> both been flawless for me.
I prefer emacs + LaTeX, but I would never recommend it to most people,
since WYSIWYG is the best choice for 90% of users.
In Windows, I usually use Notepad - it does the job, quick and easy.
Presentation quality? LaTeX does the job!
> > Please note that I am a Linux advocate. My home network is Linux.
I
> > believe in the principles, the ethics, of open source and admire the
> > people who have made GNU/Linux a reality.
>
> As you start trashing Linux...some advocate.
Easy now. He is the kind of advocate that still has both his feet on the
ground, as opposed to the LinoNuts who think that Linux is a gift from
the gods, and every MS product sucks by definition.
(...)
> > I use Linux because I love its open nature, its flexibility, its
> > empowerment, and because I believe in the philsophy/ethics of the
Free
> > Software Foundation. I cannot contribute as a programmer, because I
> > don't possess the skills.
>
> You could document programs (user guides) if you were serious about
> contributing.....which is what I am doing as well.
How about sponsoring projects on Cosource.com (http://www.cosource.com/)
or buying RedHat stock? That's kind of contributing too.
> > But I can offer an honest evaluation based on
> > years of experience with a wide range of business oriented desktop
> > software in a business environment, and the truth is that in this
> > particular realm Linux SUCKS. I fervently hope to see the day when
that
> > is no longer true.
>
> I don't agree, and I simply don't buy your story.....especially since
I
> also use these Linux tools you complain about, and find that they
work much
> more reliably with less hassle than the MS counterparts I've used.
>
> Perhaps you should stick with Windows for the next few years. Maybe
by
> then, you'll be tired of the same old MS apps, and might welcome
trying
> something else out on another OS. <You are a troll>
1) I don't think he's a troll
2) As GNOME and KDE have started a Window-fication of Linux, I feel more
and more alienated from Linux.
--
"It's the best $50 bucks I ever spent. I would have paid five
times that for what your 'New You' packet allowed me to do!!!"
-- K. Waterbury, CA
Martin A. Boegelund.
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From: Truckasaurus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The truth is often painful...
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 12:20:04 GMT
In article <8e3mlf$p6e$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Gabriele Del Giovine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "Bastian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto nel messaggio
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >And it certainly
> > crashes if you have written more than 20 pages...
>
> A better perfomance than StarOffice (4 pages) and Corel WordPerfect
(1 word)
Where did you install them? On a toilet seat?
Please tell us more about your experience, setup, and background.
Win NT has BSOD'd on me wHile I was doing _nothing_at_all_! Beat that!
--
"It's the best $50 bucks I ever spent. I would have paid five
times that for what your 'New You' packet allowed me to do!!!"
-- K. Waterbury, CA
Martin A. Boegelund.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Truckasaurus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Sucks and Windows 2000 RULEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 12:32:57 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Long live Microsoft!!!!!!
> After using this piece of garbage called Linux I will say a prayer for
> Microsoft and Bill every night because if we were forced to use Linux,
> nobody except gearheads would use computers. Thank God for Bill and
his
> vision of ease of use.
>
> Took me a freaking week to get this piece of junk semi-working. I
still
> don't have sound on web pages, Netscape keeps freezing on me and the
> print on the screen is so small and shitty looking my eyes are
hurting.
> No wonder nerds wear thick glasses. Everything runs like molasas and
the
> games and utilities look like entry level progamming circa 1985.
>
> No wonder this crap is free. If I paid for it I would take it back to
> the store and shove it up the ass of store manager for allowing such
> trash on the shelf.
>
> I still can't get this samba thing going. Shit all I want to do is
share
> my drives and have my computers talk to each other over the network.
Am
> I asking too much here?
> With Win2k I clik the share box and it works. Bingo. I've been all
over
> the web researching this samba pos. No wonder they call it samba, you
> have to dance for a month to get it going.
>
> Linux sucks the big snake...... It's for tinkerers and wannabe
> programmers. A hacked together piece of trash.
>
> GATES HAS NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT.
>
> Linux will self destruct, it's just a matter of time...
>
> God does this Linux stuff suck.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!You should all use
Windows
> and see what you are missing.
This might come as a surprise for you, but if you don't know what you're
doing (ie doing it the Windows way on Linux) then you are likely to
fail. I can't get simple stuff working in Windows, since I'm thinking
Linux when trying. But I'm not blaming Windows for it.
Next time when you use Linux, just wait for the sodding paperclip to
come and give you advice - that way you wont trash anything ;-)
--
"It's the best $50 bucks I ever spent. I would have paid five
times that for what your 'New You' packet allowed me to do!!!"
-- K. Waterbury, CA
Martin A. Boegelund.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: "JC Nieukoop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Red Hat Linux Backdoor Password Vulnerability
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 14:03:24 +0200
"Stefan Ohlsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Chad Myers wrote:
> >Seeing as how a simple buffer overrun was mistreated as a "backdoor" that
was
> >purposely placed by Microsoft, I thought it was only fitting to see how
> >Open Sores can fall victim to the same thing.
> >
> >http://xforce.iss.net/alerts/advise46.php3
>
> >"With this backdoor password, an attacker could compromise the web server
as
> >well as deface and destroy the web site."
> >
> "If the affected "piranha-gui" package is installed and the
> [default] password has not been changed by the administrator, the
> system is vulnerable."
>
> So, if the admin installs the package and does not alter the default
> password, then people who know this default password can log in.
> Any secutiry-concious admin would change it upon installing.
>
> /Stefan
> --
> [ Stefan Ohlsson ] � http://www.mds.mdh.se/~dal95son/ � [ ICQ# 17519554 ]
>
> Gabe: [burning stolen money] It costs a fortune to heat this place.
> /Cliffhanger
I don't see how he is supposed to do this since the password was
undocumented. That makes it a backdoor and a security issue.
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From: Brad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Beer Tosser a Sabre Fan? Nope.
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 08:14:08 -0400
In article <8e4v2c$ol4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> In article <MPG.136f9f755d4e790d98972a@news>,
> Brad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >In article <iTiN4.4657$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> >> "Billy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> > On Tue, 25 Apr 2000 10:25:45 -0400, "JonnyCab�"
> >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >...figures. I never saw that it *did* go up. At least Bill Gates took a
> >> > >$12 billion hit yesterday. <snicker>
> >> >
> >> > Why does everyone hate Bill gates and want him to fail? Maybe its
> >> > just me, but his products have made my life a lot easier......
> >>
> >> We could always take this into another NG, where I can reel off hundreds of
> >> bugs and inconsistencies that make my life a lot harder... <g>
> >
> >And then of course you will list all of the completely bug-free software
> >that you use all of he time, right? Oh, I guess you just did.
>
> Hmmm... having had extensive experience with all 3 of these OSes, running
> them at least 5 days a week.
>
> Crashes over the last 5 years:
>
> Solaris: 1 crash
> Linux: 0 crashes
> Windows 95: 150+, you lose count after awhile.
>
> Bug free? Of course not, but as long as I can't see'em.... :) It's close
> enough.
Seeing that you have no experience with NT or 2000 shows me that you
know nothing of MS's OS's. 95/98 are for consumers, the people that
have no use for Linux/Unix in the first place so the comparison is
pointless.
> Seriously, though, it's the privacy issues that concern me more with
> Windows than anything else. Open source means they can't hide anything
> from you.
Like the backdoor password that showed up in RedHat the other day. Real
smart leaving it in there when it's open source.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (rj friedman)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: i cant blieve you people!!
Date: 26 Apr 2000 13:01:00 GMT
On Wed, 26 Apr 2000 07:22:15 Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
�Yeah... they might have a couple of face cards, but the DOJ has all
�of the trump cards:
� 1. M$ internal memos
� 2. Anti-competitive contracts with OEMs.
� 3. 20 different STATE'S ATTORNEYS chomping at the bit
� 4. Japanese already removed their hindquarters in court.
5. Presenting falsified evidence to the court - TWICE.
6. EU ready to drag their sorry butts over the fire...
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[RJ] OS/2 - Live it, or live with it.
rj friedman Team ABW
Taipei, Taiwan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: IBM dumping more shares of RedHat
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 13:07:52 GMT
http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/newsbursts/0,7407,2487559,00.html
"IBM Corp. (NYSE: IBM), the No. 1 computer maker in the world, filed with
regulators to sell about $14.37 million worth of shares in Red Hat Inc.
(Nasdaq: RHAT), a Linux software operating system distributor. IBM filed on
March 23 to sell 250,000 shares it acquired through a private purchase from the
company about 13 months ago, according to a filing with the Securities and
Exchange Commission made available on Wednesday. A spokesman for Armonk,
N.Y.-based IBM was not immediately available for comment. IBM sold another
150,000 shares earlier this month worth an estimated $8.5 million, the filing
showed."
Well, it was fun while it lasted. The fad's over, time to pull out.
-Chad
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