Linux-Advocacy Digest #250, Volume #34 Sun, 6 May 01 11:13:05 EDT
Contents:
Re: The long slow slide to Microsoft.NOT ("Chad Myers")
Re: The long slow slide to Microsoft.NOT (Charles Lyttle)
Re: MS pushing retailers to hide Linux? ("Weevil")
Re: MS pushing retailers to hide Linux? ("Weevil")
Re: Windos is *unfriendly* ("Weevil")
Re: Linux a Miserable Consumer OS (Charles Lyttle)
Re: where's the linux performance? (Truth be told)
Re: MS pushing retailers to hide Linux? (Truth be told)
Re: WinTrolls and advocates are the ones who are geeks! (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: WinTrolls and advocates are the ones who are geeks! (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! ("billwg")
Re: WinTrolls and advocates are the ones who are geeks! (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: Windows NT: lost in space? (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: Alan Cox responds to Mundie (Craig Kelley)
Re: Microsoft standards... (was Re: Windows 2000 - It is a crappy product) (Bob
Hauck)
Re: Microsoft standards... (was Re: Windows 2000 - It is a crappy product) (Bob
Hauck)
Re: A Windows enthusiasts take on Mundie's speech (Bob Hauck)
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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.linux,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: The long slow slide to Microsoft.NOT
Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 13:25:57 GMT
"Paul Dossett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9d1bcp$2pi$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > "JVercherIII" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:ADVI6.297$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Civility people! I use both Linux and Windows, and both have their
> places
> > > (IMHO). I make a living right now writing VB programs so I'm kind of
> > living
> > > off the Microsoft gravy train. That being said, they do some things
> which
> > > are very unpleasing. My main complaint with Microsoft is that they
> stifle
> > > innovation. They never have come up with an original idea.
> >
> > Bullshit, and a big one.
> >
> > To name a few of the top of my head:
> > COM
> > COM+
> > MTS
> > IE (No other browser can come even close, Mozilla can't render yahoo.com
> > properly, and crash when you try to send a bug report)
>
> IE, you say? Here's IE's copyright info:
>
> Based on NCSA Mosaic. NCSA Mosaic(TM); was developed at the National Center
> for Supercomputing Applications at the University of Illinois at
> Urbana-Champaign.
> Distributed under a licensing agreement with Spyglass, Inc.
> Contains security software licensed from RSA Data Security Inc.
> Portions of this software are based in part on the work of the Independent
> JPEG Group.
> Contains SOCKS client software licensed from Hummingbird Communications Ltd.
> Contains ASN.1 software licensed from Open Systems Solutions, Inc.
> Multimedia software components, including Indeo(R); video, Indeo(R) audio,
> and Web Design Effects are provided by Intel Corp.
> Unix version contains software licensed from Mainsoft Corporation. Copyright
> (c) 1998-1999 Mainsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. Mainsoft is a
> trademark of Mainsoft Corporation.
> Warning: This computer program is protected by copyright law and
> international treaties. Unauthorized reproduction or distribution of this
> program, or any portion of it, may result in severe civil and criminal
> penalties, and will be prosecuted to the maximum extent possible under the
> law.
>
> Notice the word MICROSOFT anywhere in there? The program was written by
> another company, based on work by yet ANOTHER group - Microsoft has only
> added bells and whistles (and numerous security holes).
Oh yeah, IE is just a big conglomeration of other software. Microsoft
didn't write one single line of code, write?
Oh yeah, and IE doesn't have ANY additional functionality over Mosaic.
Riigggghhhttt....
-c
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From: Charles Lyttle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.linux,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: The long slow slide to Microsoft.NOT
Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 13:45:03 GMT
Ayende Rahien wrote:
>
> "JVercherIII" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:ADVI6.297$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Civility people! I use both Linux and Windows, and both have their places
> > (IMHO). I make a living right now writing VB programs so I'm kind of
> living
> > off the Microsoft gravy train. That being said, they do some things which
> > are very unpleasing. My main complaint with Microsoft is that they stifle
> > innovation. They never have come up with an original idea.
>
> Bullshit, and a big one.
>
> To name a few of the top of my head:
> COM
> COM+
Original IBM, late 60s, dropped by IBM when they found it impossible to
ensure security and safety
> MTS
Don't know myself, so no comment.
> IE (No other browser can come even close, Mozilla can't render yahoo.com
> properly, and crash when you try to send a bug report)
IE code base was originally mosaic, as was Netscape. MS didn't come up
with the idea. IE still looks like a hacked up mosaic.
>
> Just to note:
> COM was copied by many applications. Mozilla's XPCOM, Bonobo & RNA are few
> examples.
> MTS was copied by Sun, IBM, BEA and 25 other vendors, in EJB.
> No one has been successful in copying IE so far, sadly.
No one wants to copy IE. Browsers are headed for the dustbin as people
learn the capabilities of a real OS.
> COM+ is also uncopied to my knowledge.
--
Russ Lyttle
"World Domination through Penguin Power"
The Universal Automotive Testset Project at
<http://home.earthlink.net/~lyttlec>
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From: "Weevil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS pushing retailers to hide Linux?
Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 13:55:43 GMT
Dave Martel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Sat, 5 May 2001 17:13:56 -0600, kosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >You should see compusa in boulder. They have a LOT of linux stuff.
> >Everything from the dists to firewalls apps etc. When a new dist version
> >comes out they usually have several pallettes of it around for the first
> >two weeks or so. They did this with both Redhat 7.0 and Mandrake 7.2 and
> >they have a bunch of Suse there also.
>
> Wish I had a picture of the OS aisle at the local store. Yards and
> yards of RedHat, Mandrake, SuSE, Slackware, Caldera, even FreeBSD, not
> to mention the various NetMax firewalls, etc. And way way down there
> at the very end, squeezed into a space barely two feet wide, Windows
> ME and Windows 2000.
I suspect that a lot more people buy Linux than voluntarily buy Windows.
Unfortunately, Microsoft doesn't really need to get end users to buy Windows
off the shelf -- virtually all end users bought Windows without knowing it
when they bought their computers.
--
Weevil
================================================================
"The obvious mathematical breakthrough [for breaking encryption schemes]
would be development of an easy way to factor large prime numbers."
-- Bill Gates
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From: "Weevil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS pushing retailers to hide Linux?
Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 14:00:23 GMT
Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8Q7J6.22870$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:4L%I6.13309$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Is Micosoft up to their old tricks again.
>
> Well, rather than investigate, let's make wild speculations without facts.
>
> > I went into a Best Buy store looking to get the new version of Linux.
> >
> > The last I bought was Red Hat 6.1 and it was displayed prominently in
the
> > "operating systems" section along with Mandrake, TurboLinux, and
> MacMillian
> > distros that took up 3 or 4 shelves next to displays of Windows and Mac
> Os'.
> >
> > This time the OS section only contained the various Windows operating
> > systems, and I had to ask a clerk where the Linux products were. She
> stated
> > that "we keep them well hidden" and took me to the "computer books"
> section
> > where on a single bottom shelf was only the Suse distro for Linux.
> >
> > I know this type of thing is a common business practice, particularly
for
> > grocery stores, with cereals, canned foods, etc . . . so don't know if
> this
> > is necessarily illegal or not, but so MSish.
>
> Likely, this is a result of where that particular store is getting its
Linux
> distributions. Many of them distribute through book wholesalers, which
> means that the software gets put in the book sections instead of the
> software sections.
>
> I know my local Best Buy stocks Linux, on the software shelves. It sounds
> more like this is a strange situation.
>
The fact that you take the accusation seriously enough to try to come up
with a reasonable explanation is proof enough that it is very likely
happening.
--
Weevil
================================================================
"The obvious mathematical breakthrough [for breaking encryption schemes]
would be development of an easy way to factor large prime numbers."
-- Bill Gates
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From: "Weevil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windos is *unfriendly*
Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 14:12:58 GMT
Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:s_5J6.8122$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Terry Porter wrote:
>
> > Yep, but remember its Windos, and networking has always been
> > difficult with that OS.
>
> That explains why I have Windows network up and running and Linux I have
to
> start DHCP manually.
>
No. You apparently choose to start DHCP manually so that you'll have
something to complain about. It is the only explanation for why you're
still doing it after several people have explained to you, with
unaccountable patience, various ways to automate it.
--
Weevil
================================================================
"The obvious mathematical breakthrough [for breaking encryption schemes]
would be development of an easy way to factor large prime numbers."
-- Bill Gates
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From: Charles Lyttle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux a Miserable Consumer OS
Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 14:15:57 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Linux was/is and will continue to be a miserable failure as a consumer
> desktop OS until it wakes up and starts offering an end result that is
> superior instead of an inferior result based upon theoretical superior
> technologies.
>
> Consumers want instant gratification and Linux is way out in left
> field as far as that is concerned. A consumer can call a 1-800 number
> they saw on TV and order the latest and greatest Pentium 4 system with
> all of the bells and whistles including AOL or MSN for less than 2k.
> They open the box plug it in and it works. Sure the scanner/printer
> and modem are Win* variety, but who cares? It works. They have a
> pre-load with all kinds of games, office suites and so forth. The same
> Office suites that their children are using in school. My daughter
> needed to a Power point presentation for French class the other day
> (she is 15 and in 9th grade). Am I going to give her a Linux version?
> Hell no!!! I want the CD I burn to run on Windows because that is what
> her teacher uses. Why be a martyr?
>
You are absolutely correct. Linux turns consumers into producers and
encourages them to think for themselves. Why expose your daughter to the
hazards of thought? That will only maker her unhappy and she might vote
to cut of your social security. Exposing your children to Linux is child
abuse! She might fail and damage her self-esteem. Instead of Linux run
right out and buy her a sack of McDonald's and some Guess jeans.
--
Russ Lyttle
"World Domination through Penguin Power"
The Universal Automotive Testset Project at
<http://home.earthlink.net/~lyttlec>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Truth be told)
Subject: Re: where's the linux performance?
Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 14:21:19 GMT
|Jonathan Martindell wrote:
|>
|> Hi all,
|>
|> I'm just a beginning Linux user. I've recently tried Linux-Mandrake 7.2 and
|> then Linux-Mandrake 8.0 and also Caldera OpenLinux 2.4. I've been very
|> disappointed in the performance of all of these. My machine, I think,
|> should be more than adaquate: 708MHz celeron fcppga cpu, 256 meg rams, 10
|> gig partition for linux (20 for windows 2000) on Ultra66. I've tried
|> running KDE, Gnome, and Icevm. Programs like KMail take over 10 seconds to
[ ... snipped ... ]
Console my man, the console. Use Lynx and Emacs for everything.
Didn't you know that? (-:
You may have a config problem. Kmail for me, on MUCH less of a
machine, doesn't take quite that long to load.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Truth be told)
Subject: Re: MS pushing retailers to hide Linux?
Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 14:26:57 GMT
On 06 May 2001 07:32:53 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
flung this gem:
|On Sun, 06 May 2001 03:06:10 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|> On Sat, 05 May 2001 23:09:52 GMT, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|>
|>>Is Micosoft up to their old tricks again.
Of course they are. Your phone is tapped you know, and they know where
you live and what you like to eat.
|>>I went into a Best Buy store looking to get the new version of Linux.
Buy it online.
|>>The last I bought was Red Hat 6.1 and it was displayed prominently in the
|>>"operating systems" section along with Mandrake, TurboLinux, and MacMillian
|>>distros that took up 3 or 4 shelves next to displays of Windows and Mac Os'.
Yes, I remember this as well at the local Office Depot. They had
RedHat and Turbo Linux.
|>>This time the OS section only contained the various Windows operating
|>>systems, and I had to ask a clerk where the Linux products were. She stated
|>>that "we keep them well hidden" and took me to the "computer books" section
|>>where on a single bottom shelf was only the Suse distro for Linux.
Well, I asked too, only my response was "they didn't sell well enough
to stock".
|> They keep them hidden because they hate processing the returns and
|> listening to some poor loser scream at them when he tries to install
|> Linux and wipes out his hard drive.
Nobody 'hides' anything. A business 'hiding' merchandize? Why not just
not sell it? Besides, once the software is opened most of these
stores won't accept returns ... Linux included.
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WinTrolls and advocates are the ones who are geeks!
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 02:27:44 -0700
> Also, you have to be a geek to understand how Win32 works. It's always
> amusing hearing about how Win32 is an event-driven windowing system, and
> all about this GetDC(), BeginPaint(), and EndPaint() stuff, and how
> you're supposed to declare your WindowProc() call when you create your
> window class.
Every Windows developer I have chatted to cannot stand using Win32 API,
however, due to market constraints, they are forced to. One mate of
mine (mate = friend) for 15 minutes bitched on about how shit-house the
Windows API is, and unfortunately, I, who is very willing to listen, was
his only out-let, and my god, the problems he listed! Microsoft has the
money, why doesn't it create a nice new API, without all the crap and
ensure that it is clean, efficient and fully documented, then maybe I
would be able to go with out a week of Windows developers bitching about
how bad the Win32 API is!
I personally don't program for two reasons, first, I don't like it, its
boring, I prefer consulting etc etc. second, I am a slow programmer as I
am a perfectionist, I constantly re-read my code for errors, two-three
times, and in the end, I get bugger-all work done :( However, I don't
mind programming in COBOL, it is very easy to learn and I have been able
to automate tasks when required.
Matthew Gardiner
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WinTrolls and advocates are the ones who are geeks!
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 02:30:32 -0700
Mikkel Elmholdt wrote:
>
> "Donn Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > You've gotta love the crap you read in here, how we're all supposed to
> > be "Linux geeks". You hear that repeated many times in here by the
> > Wintrolls. In fact, the Wintrolls are the ones who are geeks. Did you
> > ever see how geeky Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer are? Damn, but if those
> > two aren't the biggest geeks I've ever seen! Linus Torvalds is much
> > cooler by comparison.
>
> He ain't cool, he's just Finnish! Finns are not cool people, they are
> INCREDIBLY boring, moody and prone to drink hard (moonshine) liquor - here
> in Scandinavia we know that the world's shortest book is a collection of
> Finnish jokes, and that the most boring TV programme is a 3-hour Finnish
> docu-drama about a steelworker's day at the mill (I'm from Denmark, and no,
> we don't like Swedes either).
Not to mention the overly politically correct policies they are
enforcing onto the masses. Mind you, in terms of drinking, there must
be a Russian influence there :)
Matthew Gardiner
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From: "billwg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 14:30:54 GMT
Do you have any authentication for that letter? That condition would be an
explicit violation of the Consent Agreement and would be of extreme interest
to the DOJ, at least the previous administration DOJ. I suspect that the
story is bogus since there was such an extensive search made by the DOJ for
any such agreements or documents from Microsoft to the extent of subpoenaing
contracts from most of the OEMs over the objection of Microsoft but by order
of the Jackson court.
"Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> billwg wrote:
> >
> > "T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Said Daniel Johnson in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sat, 05 May 2001
> > > >
> > > >Saying this doesn't make it so. Until 1995, Microsoft
> > > >sold a version of Windows separate from DOS.
> > >
> > > The question is not whether they sold it (had it available). The
> > > question is how much people bought it. People weren't buying it, so
MS
> > > forced it on them: this is documented by Microsoft's internal
documents.
> > > Arguing against it just makes you look stupid.
> > >
> > This doesn't seem to gibe with the Caldera case theory for one thing.
Their
> > assertion was that Microsoft used Windows to leverage MS-DOS, not
vice-versa
> > as you seem to be saying.
>
> Letter to Mike Davis, Diamond Trading
>
> Dear Mike
> Further to out conversation yesterday, I am writing to confirm that
> Microsoft is unable to supply you Windows as a single product. Microsoft
> will only sell you Windows as a combined package with MS-DOS 5.
> Yours Sincerely
> OEM Sales
> Microsoft Ltd.
>
> --
> Rick
>
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WinTrolls and advocates are the ones who are geeks!
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 02:33:02 -0700
Jasper wrote:
>
> "Linux users are really cool"??? Give me a break!
>
> Rock climbing, skydiving, bushwalking and dirt bikes are cool. Using
> a computer is just a means to finding the time and money to do these
> things.
>
> Only a computer geek would ever post something like what is written
> below.
>
I am into music, art, reading and meditating.
Is that cool or what?
Matthew Gardiner
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows NT: lost in space?
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 02:37:22 -0700
> Well, Mir *did* last for over twice as long as initially intended
> (IIRC), so a few glitches near the end have to be expected.
> Maybe the Russians can use the Windows source code and help
> NASA fix a few of the bugs in it ;)
The Russians are very good programmers, I have used several anti-virus
tools by Russian software companies (for Windows), and they are far
superior to what the likes of Symantec and McAfee have to offer.
Matthew Gardiner
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From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Alan Cox responds to Mundie
Date: 06 May 2001 08:42:35 -0600
Ketil Z Malde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >> Yep, and my contention is that a BSD-style license will eventually
> >> knock out all the GPL code out there as well; the most free license
> >> will win in the end.
>
> While I don't necessarily think that would be a bad thing, I don't
> think it's likely. For one thing, a corporation would probably be
> more comfortable releasing code under GPL than under BSD - that way,
> competitors couldn't make improvements without also giving them
> back.
Yes, but the situtation is reversed with already-existing GPL
software. Companies would rather use BSD-licenced software (eg,
Apple's Darwin) than GPL for obvious reasons.
> Also, with the "nice" BSD license, you can "hijack" code into a GPL
> project, but not vice versa. Thus, in theory, for each BSD project,
> you can have an equal GPL project - in practice, few care enough to
> fork just for the license.
>
> > No. The BSD license allows your code to be hijacked by Gates and
> > other dispicable free-loaders.
>
> Sometimes, this is what you want - e.g. from infrastructure products.
> The bad thing about it, is that corporations tend to use it and abuse
> it - "improve" without sharing changes, and thus breaking things.
> I'm not sure Gates is so much worse than everybody else, but being so
> dominant, he has more to gain by breaking standards - at some point it
> gets easier to replace a Sun box with an NT box, than to replace fifty
> PCs with workstations.
>
> I still think that software (and other "intellectual property")
> produced with public funding, should be as unencumbered as possible.
> Meaning BSD rather than GPL.
I agree. Everyone benefits in that case; GPL fans can use the code
as well as closed-source groups. If publicly-funded code is GPL then
there is only one group that can re-use it.
--
It won't be long before the CPU is a card in a slot on your ATX videoboard
Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft standards... (was Re: Windows 2000 - It is a crappy product)
Reply-To: bobh = haucks dot org
Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 14:43:47 GMT
On Sun, 6 May 2001 04:59:28 +0200, Ayende Rahien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Bob Hauck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> But not del, and it's annoying as hell. Anyway to fix it?
Use Ctl-D, or see my post to Chad for a ".inputrc" file that works for
me (on Linux in an xterm anyway). I use rxvt on NT with bash, and I
_think_ the same setup works, but I don't remember now and the NT
machine is at work.
> > Up and down arrow keys scroll through the history. You can search the
> > history with Ctrl-R.
>
> It's not the same as F7, with F7 on CMD, you get a list of all the recent
> commands are displayed, so you can choose from them.
Yeah, I know it isn't the same, but you get roughly the same
functionality. Now they just need to make cmd windows resizeable like
an xterm and they'll have something <g>.
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| To Whom You Are Speaking
-| http://www.haucks.org/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft standards... (was Re: Windows 2000 - It is a crappy product)
Reply-To: bobh = haucks dot org
Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 14:43:46 GMT
On Sun, 06 May 2001 01:52:13 GMT, Chad Myers
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What special configuration is required? Perhaps I would use it more if
> it had some of this basic functionality.
Caldera sets users up with this ".inputrc" file. Try putting it in
your home directory:
=========================8<=========================
set meta-flag on
set output-meta on
set convert-meta off
#set bell-style visible
#set show-all-if-ambiguous on
# Common standard keypad and cursor
# (codes courtsey Werner Fink, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
"\C-?": delete-char
"\C-h": backward-delete-char
"\e[1~": history-search-backward
"\e[2~": yank
"\e[3~": delete-char
"\e[4~": set-mark
"\e[5~": history-search-backward
"\e[6~": history-search-forward
# Normal keypad and cursor of xterm
"\e[F": end-of-line
"\e[H": beginning-of-line
# Application keypad and cursor of xterm
"\eOA": previous-history
"\eOC": forward-char
"\eOB": next-history
"\eOD": backward-char
"\eOF": end-of-line
"\eOH": beginning-of-line
=========================8<=========================
> Edit HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Command Processor\CompletionChar
Yes, yes, I know about that. I was asking about hitting tab again and
again to go through the matches. Never mind, I'll try it when I get to
work next week.
> Hmm, I don't recall ever having bashed on utilities although I usually only
> end up ever using grep because most of the others are either
No, you just bash on the command line in general. Oh, a pun!
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| To Whom You Are Speaking
-| http://www.haucks.org/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: A Windows enthusiasts take on Mundie's speech
Reply-To: bobh = haucks dot org
Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 14:43:51 GMT
On Sun, 06 May 2001 23:18:54 -0700, Matthew Gardiner
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Oh, just as a follow up, how can a GPL program fork? when all
> modifications must be made public and handed back to the author. The
> only time a program can fork is under the BSD license.
How do you explain GNU Emacs vs XEmacs then? Or GCC vs EGCS?
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| To Whom You Are Speaking
-| http://www.haucks.org/
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