Linux-Advocacy Digest #250, Volume #26           Tue, 25 Apr 00 12:13:40 EDT

Contents:
  Re: which OS is best? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: i cant blieve you people!! (Mark S. Bilk)
  Re: which OS is best? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: which OS is best? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: which OS is best? (Jim Richardson)
  Re: i cant blieve you people!! (Loren Petrich)
  Re: which OS is best? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: i cant blieve you people!! (WickedDyno)
  Re: "Technical" vs. "Non-technical"... (was Re: Grasping perspective...) (sea_Dragon)
  Re: which OS is best? (Leslie Mikesell)
  Re: Government to break up Microsoft (Loren Petrich)
  Re: on installing software on linux. a worst broken system. (Terry Porter)
  Re: "Technical" vs. "Non-technical"... (was Re: Grasping perspective...) (Leslie 
Mikesell)
  Re: on installing software on linux. a worst broken system. (Terry Porter)
  Re: which OS is best? (Leslie Mikesell)
  Re: "Technical" vs. "Non-technical"... (was Re: Grasping perspective...) (sea_Dragon)
  Re: on installing software on linux. a worst broken system. (Terry Porter)
  Re: Is Linux like IRIX??Helpp (abraxas)
  Re: Become a Windows Registry Expert! (Russell Wallace)
  Re: MS caught breaking web sites (Hexdump)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.flame.macintosh
Subject: Re: which OS is best?
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 00:47:47 -0500

On 25 Apr 2000 00:23:22 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
wrote:

>>Been there, done that.  The HOWTOs in particular are helpful -- if
>>everything goes right and works as it should.  For example, I can't
>>make RH5.2 floppies boot on my laptop (something about the very first
>>.img file it attempts to load..doesn't), an old 486 I'd like to run
>>X-terminals on, but it will boot fine with RH6.2 or SuSe 6.3 floppies.
>>However, doing so doesn't allow me to access the 'net - with an
>>NE2000, 3C589, or Ethernet II NIC.  So far I've not found a source for
>>information on this problem.  It seems the NIC is found, but I get TX
>>errors (if I ctl-alt-F3 or F4, depending on the distribution, SuSe or
>>RH) throughout - every time I try to mount an NFS share or FTP share
>>during the floppy install process.  The NIC appears to have the right
>>modules loaded, and the LINK light turns on and the activity light
>>flashes from time to time (directly corresponding to when I hit enter
>>to start the connection attempt) but alas, no go.  
>
>If you ctl-alt-f2 you should get a shell prompt.  What does
>'ifconfig -a' tell you about the interface?

I don't get a shell prompt with RH6.2 or SuSe 5.2, 6.3.  It's just a
black screen and I can't type anything.  CAF3/F4It says something
about TX errors and RDC, if that's any help.  eth0 .. TX...RDC.  I'll
check next time I try it, if I do, but I've pretty much given up on
it.  

>If you are only going to use the laptop for X sessions you might
>want to try VNC under windows and an X desktop running under
>vncserver on a normal box.  VNC lets you disconnect and reconnect
>without killing the session.

I've been less than impressed with VNC; I find X-terminals far more
impressive and useful.  

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark S. Bilk)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: i cant blieve you people!!
Date: 25 Apr 2000 05:47:40 GMT

In article <8e378b$5jv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
steve jobsniak  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>i cant believe you peolpe... micorsoft is going down, taking the rest of
>the tech stocks down alogn with it, and you folks are
>*happy*!!!  will you only be happy when the entire stock market
>crashess, taking the economy, your job, and preciuos apple with it???
>of course you'll change you're minds then, but why not change your mind
>now WHILE YOU CAN STILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE and keep it from happening?

Everybody send Bill Gates $1000, or God will call him home
to Heaven!



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.flame.macintosh
Subject: Re: which OS is best?
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 01:01:17 -0500

On Tue, 25 Apr 2000 05:35:38 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
wrote:

>>Or if you're just a normal human being who wants to get things done
>>quickly without investing mountains of time and effort (and trips to
>>the library to get manuals) just to do some basic filesharing.  
>
>       What makes you think some granny won't need to do the same for
>       Windows. You've not really supported the claim that 'she'
>       wouldn't, just made the claim that what is there seems obvious
>       from the point of view of a relative expert.

...by expecting a user to right click on a file, click sharing, and
then say OK?  

Or by the ease of which I can tell someone how to do that?  

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.flame.macintosh
Subject: Re: which OS is best?
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 01:01:57 -0500

On Tue, 25 Apr 2000 05:38:42 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
wrote:

>On Mon, 24 Apr 2000 21:21:35 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>On Mon, 24 Apr 2000 16:37:56 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>     The vast majority of them will look at you as if you're from another
>>>     planet once you start talking about file sharing. In the end you would
>>>     end up essentially writing a 'visual howto' for them.
>>
>>...which is far easier to follow.  
>
>       Actually, that would be a far more individual thing than you
>       acknowledge. No matter how much M$ would like to think of them
>       as such, end users are not borg drones.
>
>       Besides, a simple list of commands is far less ambiguous and
>       less bulk of information.

Nevertheless, clicking on an icon for a drive letter and clicking
sharing seems, to me, to be something far easier for most people to
digest, remember, and do.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.flame.macintosh
Subject: Re: which OS is best?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 06:04:43 GMT

On Tue, 25 Apr 2000 01:01:57 -0500, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 brought forth the following words...:

>On Tue, 25 Apr 2000 05:38:42 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 24 Apr 2000 21:21:35 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>On Mon, 24 Apr 2000 16:37:56 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>    The vast majority of them will look at you as if you're from another
>>>>    planet once you start talking about file sharing. In the end you would
>>>>    end up essentially writing a 'visual howto' for them.
>>>
>>>...which is far easier to follow.  
>>
>>      Actually, that would be a far more individual thing than you
>>      acknowledge. No matter how much M$ would like to think of them
>>      as such, end users are not borg drones.
>>
>>      Besides, a simple list of commands is far less ambiguous and
>>      less bulk of information.
>
>Nevertheless, clicking on an icon for a drive letter and clicking
>sharing seems, to me, to be something far easier for most people to
>digest, remember, and do.


but as my mom said, what's an icon?
(not to mention that the drive letters aren't on the desktop, they're hidden
in My computer, right?)


-- 
Jim Richardson
        Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
WWW.eskimo.com/~warlock
        Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Loren Petrich)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: i cant blieve you people!!
Date: 25 Apr 2000 06:07:28 GMT


        [M$ stock going down and some other tech stocks following...]

        To me, stock is a sort of adult trading cards, consider baseball
cards and Pokemon cards. 

--
Loren Petrich                           Happiness is a fast Macintosh
[EMAIL PROTECTED]                      And a fast train
My home page: http://www.petrich.com/home.html

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.flame.macintosh
Subject: Re: which OS is best?
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 01:09:44 -0500

On Tue, 25 Apr 2000 05:40:36 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
wrote:

>>I think enough people have moved to the GUI to demonstrate that it is
>>the preferred interface.  I know *you* are more comfortable in the
>>CLI, but I think most people have shown to strongly prefer the GUI.  
>
>       In this day and age, people aren't exactly given a choice. They
>       never have been really. The 'tyranny of the majority' has 
>       historically forced them to use one option or another not because
>       it was 'best' but because it was most numerous.

Clicking on something is easier than opening a manual to try to find
the right commands.  

>       Windows itself exists as a dominant player in the market DESPITE
>       being at it's core a rather primitive CLI that managed to defeat
>       Macintosh due to numbers rather than quality.

Please detail how NT/2k is "a rather primitive CLI".

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From: WickedDyno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: i cant blieve you people!!
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 02:15:20 -0400

In article <8e3cn0$4sa$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(Loren Petrich) wrote:

>       [M$ stock going down and some other tech stocks following...]
>
>       To me, stock is a sort of adult trading cards, consider baseball
>cards and Pokemon cards. 

<http://www.theonion.com/onion3610/stock_chart.html>

-- 
|           Andrew Glasgow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>           |
| SCSI is *NOT* magic.  There are *fundamental technical |
| reasons* why it is necessary to sacrifice a young goat |
| to your SCSI chain now and then. -- John Woods         |

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (sea_Dragon)
Subject: Re: "Technical" vs. "Non-technical"... (was Re: Grasping perspective...)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 06:17:05 GMT

On 25 Apr 2000 12:14:41 +0800, Terry Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>He can't be specific, becuase he has no clue what he is talking
>>about. He is just repeating what looks like a technical terms
>>so he sounds like he knows something.
>>
>>One can do asych IO very easily on Unix. Any basic Unix
>>programming book will show him how to do it. Do not know what
>>he mean by 'nice' model here. 'nice' model does not seem
>>to mean anything.
>>
>>pete 
>>
>
>Oh I know its nonsense terms , as I've writen Linux i/o code for my Micro
>burner design (working and released GPL).
>
>The whole project was easy, Linux i/o is very "nice" ;-)

Do you have ANY CLUE AT ALL, Terry Porter,  what asychronous I/O means? I
don't believe you do. I CHALLENGE YOU TO DEFINE IT: RIGHT HERE, RIGHT
NOW. First, you falsely claimed that asychronous I/O was a vague term -
it is not; it is an extremely specific term, and to those with a clue no
further explananion is needed.  Second, you used it in conjuction which a
microburner design which is perhaps the LAST application where asychronous
I/O would be useful over Linux's tired application of synchrnonous
I/O. Therefore, I do not believe that you have any clue at all, what the
term asynchronous I/O refers to. Feel free to prove me wrong and post a
definition. Please include copious details about the programming model,
how it is implemented on systems which do have it, and what applications
it is useful for. Your solution will be checked against the major search
engines in order to establish that you did not plagiarize the answer. If
you do not post within 24 hours, I will take that as an admission of
ignorance, and will happily continue to follow up to all of your future
posts in this forum (those to me and not), publically ridiculing you
for total lack of self-procliamed technical superiority.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.flame.macintosh
Subject: Re: which OS is best?
Date: 25 Apr 2000 01:14:02 -0500

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>>If you ctl-alt-f2 you should get a shell prompt.  What does
>>'ifconfig -a' tell you about the interface?
>
>I don't get a shell prompt with RH6.2 or SuSe 5.2, 6.3.  It's just a
>black screen and I can't type anything.  CAF3/F4It says something
>about TX errors and RDC, if that's any help.  eth0 .. TX...RDC.  I'll
>check next time I try it, if I do, but I've pretty much given up on
>it.  

You must not be far enough into the install to get the shell
prompt.  You would get it after the nfs link came up. 

>>If you are only going to use the laptop for X sessions you might
>>want to try VNC under windows and an X desktop running under
>>vncserver on a normal box.  VNC lets you disconnect and reconnect
>>without killing the session.
>
>I've been less than impressed with VNC; I find X-terminals far more
>impressive and useful.  

Are you sure you tried it in the configuration I suggested: vncserver
with your favorite window manager running on a Linux box, the viewer
on windows or another Linux box?  If your network is reasonably fast
it is essentially the same as X at the console.  You can tune the
geometry and color depth down for speed if you want.

  Les Mikesell
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Loren Petrich)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Government to break up Microsoft
Date: 25 Apr 2000 06:28:19 GMT

In article <8e2260$s3b$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Windows ME and Whislter are not far behind and bring even more
>  innovations and advancements.

        WHAT innovations? M$ groupies talk about how "innovative" M$ 
supposedly is, but they are *very* short of examples.
--
Loren Petrich                           Happiness is a fast Macintosh
[EMAIL PROTECTED]                      And a fast train
My home page: http://www.petrich.com/home.html

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: on installing software on linux. a worst broken system.
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 25 Apr 2000 14:44:09 +0800

On Mon, 24 Apr 2000 17:22:58 GMT, The Cat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Not even worth a response.
Then you wont get one ;-)
>
>
>
>
>On 24 Apr 2000 10:21:50 +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry
>Porter) wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>TheCat (Steve)
>
>"Agent under Wine and powered by Mandrake 7.0"


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Subject: Re: "Technical" vs. "Non-technical"... (was Re: Grasping perspective...)
Date: 25 Apr 2000 01:40:14 -0500

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
sea_Dragon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>>Probably because it is a different beast that first off, costs a lot more, and
>>second, X comes with just about any Unix you can get.  
>
>But I want a __TECHNICAL__ reason why Terminal Server is not an adequate
>solution. I am an engineer, not an accountant or a marketer, so I do
>not care about cost, how it is packaged. I am only interested in its
>__FUNCTIONALITY__.

Will it work on my Sun workstation or other platforms?  Single-vendor
products are a bad idea.

>>BTW, you do know that MS didn't even invent WTS, right?  That claim belongs 
>>to Citrix.
>
>BTW, did you know that Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson (and Linus Torvalds
>and Ted T'so and Alan Cox and Theo de Raddt and ... ) did not invent X,
>right? The claim belongs to DEC and MIT. Unix was not even the first OS
>which X ran on. Proof that Unix doesn't have a remote tool because it was
>invented elsewhere!

Before X, there was no need for a remote graphic tool.  Everything
was remote serial terminal or character mode telnet sessions.  Most
early unix boxes didn't have anything like a built in console so
it was all remote and had no concept of being limited to one special
terminal.

>Again, I am an engineer, not a historian. I don't give a flying fuck who
>invented what. I am interested in the __PRODUCT__. Give me a __TECHNICAL__
>reason why you think Windows does not have remote capabilities. Clue:
>packaging, marketing, price et al are not technical reasons.

Win3.x didn't.  Win95 didn't. Win98 doesn't.  How many copies of
NT are out there with terminal services anyway?

  Les Mikesell
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: on installing software on linux. a worst broken system.
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 25 Apr 2000 14:50:06 +0800

On Mon, 24 Apr 2000 17:22:58 GMT, The Cat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Not even worth a response.
>
>On 24 Apr 2000 10:21:50 +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry
>TheCat (Steve)
>
>"Agent under Wine and powered by Mandrake 7.0"

congrads Wintroll, (those who are silent, are understood to agree)
<plonk>

 
Kind Regards
Terry
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.flame.macintosh
Subject: Re: which OS is best?
Date: 25 Apr 2000 01:20:35 -0500

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
JEDIDIAH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Mon, 24 Apr 2000 21:21:35 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>On Mon, 24 Apr 2000 16:37:56 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>     The vast majority of them will look at you as if you're from another
>>>     planet once you start talking about file sharing. In the end you would
>>>     end up essentially writing a 'visual howto' for them.
>>
>>...which is far easier to follow.  
>
>       Actually, that would be a far more individual thing than you
>       acknowledge. No matter how much M$ would like to think of them
>       as such, end users are not borg drones.
>
>       Besides, a simple list of commands is far less ambiguous and
>       less bulk of information.

Yes, for a real test, try to describe a procedure over the phone
to someone who has not used a computer before, having them write
down the directions that they must follow when they get to the
machine and you can't talk to them anymore.  I've been fairly
successful at this with remote equipment that required typed
commands.  I don't even want to think about it for something
that uses icons and pointers.

  Les Mikesell
    [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (sea_Dragon)
Subject: Re: "Technical" vs. "Non-technical"... (was Re: Grasping perspective...)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 06:36:42 GMT

On 25 Apr 2000 13:36:00 +0800, Terry Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Why not add more memory, Wintroll ?

Actually, the machine is maxed out of RAM. 

>What do you expect?

For the machine to handle out of memory errors gracefully (i.e. not
require a reboot every time).

>Was it Swap, or Ram, do you know the difference ?

You're dumb.

>Least it told you, it had no more resources. Odd that ftp.cdrom.com
>runs a 200 Gigabyte, 3200 user FreeBsd machine, without having *your* problem ? 
Ah yes. I know that DNS for a home LAN supporting a dozen nodes is an 
expensive task - since I am running Unix. I better upgrade the machines
to 200 gigabytes - since it is running Unix, it will use everything it
can get! 

>What a contrived example!
>Hahahahah, "my gun ran out of bullets, better get a new gun"

Yep, that's what Unix told me. Wouldn't run ANY OTHER PROGRAMS, not
even kill. Perhaps that'll teach the mindless bastards who wrote the
thing not to create a new process for each image running? Nah, it's
Unix - they've been doing it that way for 30 years.

>Bullshit, you have no idea what you're doing. It couldnt *find* the root
>partition, hence the kernel panic.

No shit sherlock?

>man rdev.

You must be extremely new to Linux. rdev is an Intel-specific tool
for booting Intel kernels. I am running on an Alpha so that tool does
not work with my computer. I did it the proper way for my architecture
(the same way I have dozens of times before, and it didn't work)

>More bullshit.
>Reinstall *what* ????

Uh - Linux? I know - I should have gotten a clue, taken a lesson, and
replaced it with FreeBSD, but the only FreeBSD CD I have in the i386
version. I'll put in an order for the Alpha version. 

>This Wintroll is a joke, how many partitions did he have ? was it his root
>partition that was "corrupted" ?

It was my root partition. "VFS kernel panic: Could not mount root filesystem"
or some such cruft.

>Methinks hes replaced "Windows" with "Linux" in his post.

Incorrect. I had to reinstall Linux because my root partition became
corrupted randomly.

>Or get a clue how to install a new kernel ?

Been doing it 6.5 years. Never a hitch before.

>You're a sad case mate, someone like you shouldnt be allowed within 50 metres
>of a production Linux box.

Trust me - I wish I wasn't. But it is hard to avoid, and the Grand
Linuxification continues reaching influence in to literally every corner
of the industry.

>Anyone with 1/2 a clue would make a boot floppy and test it, I have several
>with different kernels, and different facilities.

Ah yes - the Linux way. It is so risky to install a new kernel and has such
a high probability of wiping out your hard drive that you are recommended
to install from a floppy, a media with is 100x slower. Nice.

My kernel is 1.5 MB compressed and wouldn't even fit on a conventional
floppy. You are aware that Alpha code is much more spacious than i386
code, correct? Does Linux support booting from a ZIP drive yet?

>Good for you, have you actually any apps on it ?

Oh yeah. My main workstation for 60 hrs/week of work.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: on installing software on linux. a worst broken system.
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 25 Apr 2000 14:42:33 +0800

On 23 Apr 2000 23:49:59 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>this kid terry from downunder thinks anyone who points a problem in
>linux is a wintroll and a liar.
Not so. Please be specific, or is your lack of facts complete ?

>
>what a pathetic person you must be.
Guess again, emotional doubletalker ?

> you seem to think you are smarter
>than the rest too.
Hey its a free world, think what you like.

> yet, you project no such image at all.
To *you*, and I weep tears of anguish at your lack of my self image.

> hopefully
>not all of us linux users are like you.
I hope not!

> please go away and get lost,
Please try your net policeman act with someone who cares ?

>you give the good linux people who try to really help with linux
>problems a bad name.
Bullshit. Welcome to cola anonymous Wintroll.

>


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (abraxas)
Subject: Re: Is Linux like IRIX??Helpp
Date: 25 Apr 2000 06:33:35 GMT

JoeX1029 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm probaly buying a sgi Indy that has IRIX 6.5 preloaded and I was wondering
> if anyone knew how closely Linux and IRIX are in using them (commands etc) 
> Thanks for the help probaly the wrong N/G but you guys are way smart.  Thanks
> and sorry for wasting the bandwidth.

IMHO, theres not much of a point of running an SGI machine unless you're
going to run IRIX.  Did any sort of graphics software come pre-loaded?




=====yttrx

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From: Russell Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: Become a Windows Registry Expert!
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 08:11:15 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bob Lyday wrote:
> Win 95 here runs pretty good for about a month and then it needs
> a reinstall.   Damn that is stupid!

And yet I've been running Win 95 for the last three years and never
reinstalled it, nor tinkered with the registry.  It's crashed once so
far this year, and that was when I was debugging some of my C++ code
that screwed up the message queue - and then it gave enough warning that
I could have saved work in memory if I'd had any.  I've installed and
uninstalled many gigabytes of software - applications, development
tools, games - without trouble.  I do find it advisable to reboot once a
week or thereabouts, otherwise performance starts dragging, presumably
due to memory leaks and suchlike.  Other than that the machine is up 24
hours a day, and under pretty heavy load for a desktop machine.

What conclusions to draw from these anecdotes, I will leave up to the
reader.

-- 
"To summarize the summary of the summary: people are a problem."
Russell Wallace
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hexdump)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.ms-windows.networking.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: MS caught breaking web sites
Date: 25 Apr 2000 07:26:34 GMT
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On Mon, 24 Apr 2000 21:51:03 GMT, Mike Marion wrote:
[snip]
>My mom still calls the whole case the CPU, I can't convince her that the CPU is
>just the chip.
[snip]

She's not the only one. CompUSA's Technology Assurance Program Owner's
Manual (from 1997) on page 14, under the section titled "Preventive
Maintenance for CPUs, Laptops, & Printers" continuously refers to a PC as
a CPU. 

My favorite line is the one where they state they will "Remove dust/debris
from inside the CPU." ;) 

-- 
Hexdump
Registered Linux User # 168737

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