Linux-Advocacy Digest #230, Volume #35           Thu, 14 Jun 01 10:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (Burkhard 
=?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?=)
  Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (Burkhard 
=?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?=)
  Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (Burkhard 
=?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?=)
  Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (Burkhard 
=?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?=)
  Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (Burkhard 
=?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?=)
  Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (Burkhard 
=?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?=)
  Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (Burkhard 
=?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?=)
  Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (Burkhard 
=?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?=)
  Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (Burkhard 
=?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?=)
  Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (Burkhard 
=?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?=)
  Re: Linux penetration MUCH lower than previously claimed ("Mike")
  Re: More micro$oft "customer service" (Sandman)
  Re: Windows makes good coasters
  Re: The beginning of the end for microsoft (Ketil Z Malde)

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From: Burkhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?= 
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:17:13 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> 
> Burkhard Wölfel wrote:
> >
> > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > >
> > > Burkhard Wölfel wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ed Cogburn wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> > > > > [snip]
> > > > > Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome.
> > > > >
> > > > > Aaron, you ignorant and sad excuse for a human being, I told you before
> > > > > when you were on one of your rants that the population of Zimbabwe is
> > > > > being decimated by AIDS, as well as other areas in Africa, and the
> > > > > transmission is exclusively HETEROSEXUAL.  They have orphanages full of
> > > > > orphans who have lost their parents to AIDS, and many of them have
> > > > > gotten AIDS too, from their mother.
> > > > >
> > > > > Despite your stupid statements, the truth is still there for anyone to
> > > > > see, just go to Zimbabwe in Africa or Thailand in Asia or other areas in
> > > > > both regions, and you will find AIDS spreading among HETEROSEXUAL
> > > > > POPULATIONS.
> > > >
> > > > Most important fact is that _we_ are all concerned, AIDS is an
> > > > intercultural disease. No matter how high the risk really is, sometimes
> > > > discussions like this serve only to forget that it's _my_ health that is
> > > > in danger.
> > > > Talking about minorities is easy if you don't belong to them: whatever
> > > > taboo I might get to, it's not my life.
> > > > BTW, a good way to get those discussions (face to face, esp. in groups)
> > > > back to earth is talking about contraception and sexuality of the people
> > > > involved: Now the taboo is ours, the problem is ours and we are talking
> > > > about everyday life, not as seen on TV or read in papers written to fit
> > > > into everyone's lunch break.
> > > >
> > > > Think about this:
> > > >         When my girl and I decided to leave condoms outta bed, I proposed to
> > > > get us both tested. She was a bit frightened at first, thought that
> > > > there was only danger where there's a test, but it was easy to convince
> > > > her: How could she know if I lied to her or not? What if I knew I had
> > > > AIDS and didn't tell her? (Yeah, excellent rhetoric device for
> > > > positively predisposed relationships: just twist it around the evil way.
> > > > Works.)
> > > >         She called her gynaecologist and was told to come next day. When she
> > > > arrived, there already was rumors and rants like "uuh, you're the one
> > > > with the <look left, look right> AIDS test <g> ". Imagine the faces of
> > > > the other patients waiting.
> > > >         The doctor was really cool: He told her to have the test made
> > > > anonymously at the "Gesundheitsamt", a public health care office,
> > > > because her health insurance record would block her entry into public
> > > > service.
> > > > Once again: This doctor said, Lady, don't let your future employer (the
> > > > Fed. Rep. of Germany) know that you had yourself tested or they won't
> > > > employ you. And this guy even knew examples!
> > > > And all we wanted to do is live our relationship in a responsible way.
> > > >
> > > > People, this is so pervert, I couldn't believe it.
> > > > And the pervertion is the same as with Mr. "baise-cule" Kulekiss: take a
> > > > strong sexual taboo, fear of death and painful disease and start to
> > > > gossip. The greater the distance (taboo) the easier assumptions and
> > > > guesses become "truth". The whole thing works quite fine, as long as it
> > > > is not disturbed by truth, which would mostly be a catastrophe in these
> > > > cases.
> > >
> > > Well, this may come as a surprise to you, but the US Army tests EVERY
> > > soldier for AIDS every 6-12 months.
> >
> > I am not surprised. I knew that before, and I don't think this is a way
> > to solve the problem, anyway it's legitimate for the US Army to know the
> > status of their resources.
> > In fact I am surprised to see that this answer ends our argument for
> > you.
> >
> > Your assumptions about AIDS, HIV, sexuality and genders are errant, even
> > if the US Army wouldn't test for anything.
> > IMO your attitude is one of the main reasons for the success of the
> > virus: I could never get AIDS, because I am so normal, and AIDS is a
> > pervert's disease.
> >
> 
> I don't have sex with men
> I don't cavort with sluts, nor IV drug users.
> 

That's not a point against my statements above, do you see that? 

Example: 
Statement:      Bicycles are green
Proof:          I don't ride bicycles.

huh? 


> Hope that helps.

I hope that helps your personal pursuit of happiness. 
It sure doesn't help to convince me. I talked about your errant
assumptions, not about your dick anyway. 
> 
> > But AIDS is much more normal than you think. For example, your
> > assumption that HIV spreads only into the direction of the semen, is
> > wrong. The virus is found in various human body liquids, e.g. blood.
> 
> Am I a vampire?
> a) yes
> B) NO

I don't know. Are you? I guess not, because I am convinced there are no
Dracula-style vampires.

> 
> >
> >         > On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 06:45:36 -0400, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> >         >  ("Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> >         >
> >         > >Ed Cogburn wrote:
> >         >
> >         > >> > which DEADLY, INCURABLE diseases are spread by heterosexual
> > contact?
> >         > >>
> >         > >> Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome.
> >         > >
> >         > >Not for men.
> >
> > If it wasn't this ignorance that kills so many people, it would be hell
> > of a laugh.
> > Perhaps you should think it all over again, the basis of your opinion is
> > corrupt.
> >
> > Get it, Aaron, before it gets you. Don't learn all those things in
> > hospital. Learn them now, learn about your body and your lifestyle.
> > Learn about the differences, about freedom.
> > It's important to know. Or how do you want to know how to deal with
> > infected kindergarten children, your infected colleague, infected
> > soldiers? Your proposal
> 
> Anybody who takes REASONABLE precautions will NOT get infected with AIDS.

Wrong. Reasonable precautions improve you chance not to get HIV.

> Just like anybody who takes REASONABLE precautions will NOT get hit by a train.

And REASONABLE precautions is what? Shooting gays, (see Kulekiss
below)or simply being a heterosexual man (see Kulekiss above)?

> 
> These days, you have to behave in a suicidal manner...both to get AIDS,
> and to get hit by a railroad engine.

Wrong. I think that's wrong. So, you think my precautious test I did
with my lady was what? Not necessary? Paranoid? 

BTW, these questions are meant to be questions. Feel free to answer
them!


> 
> >
> >         on Tue, 12 Jun 2001 06:10:13 -0400, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> >         "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote
> >         > Enough of this nonsense.
> >         >
> >         > Screw them.  In this day and age, if you have AIDS, you're an idiot,
> >         > and should be just lined up against the wall and shot, just on
> > principle,
> >         > for being such a fucking dumbass.
> >
> > won't work out. By the way it is not cool, it don't even look great on
> > TV.
> > Your violent opposition to dealing with the problem constructively
> > implies mighty taboo pressure. Free yourself, Aaron!
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > The only way to cure AIDS is to get to the splinter in our own eyes.
> > > > AIDS has something to do with all of our lives, habits and lifestyles.
> > > > Bothering with other people's ones will not solve the problem, neither
> > > > does it answer the question of guilt properly, which wouldn't solve the
> > > > problem either.
> > > >
> > > > BTW, I totally left out the possibility that Mr. Kulekiss simply waits
> > > > to be f###ed in his a## and doesn't know how to put it... But I think
> > > > he's only a punk begging for attention (like they all do).
> > > >
> > > > Happy testing,
> > > >         B.
> > > >
> > > > > ANY heterosexual involved with multiple partners, and
> > > > > especially the women who are more vulnerable, should rightfully fear
> > > > > AIDS no matter where they are in this world.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.  -- Voltaire
> > > >
> >
This seems to have reduced this message.
[snip]
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From: Burkhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?= 
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:18:15 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> 
> drsquare wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:44:00 -0400, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> >  ("Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> >
> > >> Your assumptions about AIDS, HIV, sexuality and genders are errant, even
> > >> if the US Army wouldn't test for anything.
> > >> IMO your attitude is one of the main reasons for the success of the
> > >> virus: I could never get AIDS, because I am so normal, and AIDS is a
> > >> pervert's disease.
> > >
> > >I don't have sex with men
> >
> > How is that relevant?
> >
> > >I don't cavort with sluts, nor IV drug users.
> > >
> > >Hope that helps.
> >
> > Not at all.
> >
> > >> But AIDS is much more normal than you think. For example, your
> > >> assumption that HIV spreads only into the direction of the semen, is
> > >> wrong. The virus is found in various human body liquids, e.g. blood.
> >
> > >Am I a vampire?
> > >a) yes
> > >B) NO
> >
> > What the fuck are you talking about?
> >
> > >Anybody who takes REASONABLE precautions will NOT get infected with AIDS.
> >
> > What about your statement that heterosexuals can't get AIDS?
> >
> > >Just like anybody who takes REASONABLE precautions will NOT get hit by a train.
> >
> > You can take all the precautions you want and still get hit by a
> > train.
> >
> > >These days, you have to behave in a suicidal manner...both to get AIDS,
> > >and to get hit by a railroad engine.
> >
> > No, you don't. It can happen like *that*.
> 
> U.S. AIDS CASES BY EXPOSURE CATEGORY
> 
> EXPOSURE CATEGORY Sub-totals # of AIDS CASES
[snip]
>  - center for disease control, 1999
> 


10th time w/out reference to the actual publication

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From: Burkhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?= 
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:19:04 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> 
> 
> U.S. AIDS CASES BY EXPOSURE CATEGORY
> 
> 
>  - center for disease control, 1999
> 
11th time w/out reference to the actual publication


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From: Burkhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?= 
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:20:20 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> 
> U.S. AIDS CASES BY EXPOSURE CATEGORY
> 
> 
>  - center for disease control, 1999
> 

12th time w/out reference to the actual publication

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Anyone interested in the script that automatically generated this
message?

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From: Burkhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?= 
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:22:43 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



jet wrote:
> 
> Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Burkhard Wölfel wrote:
> > >
> > > Ed Cogburn wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> > > > [snip]
> > > > Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome.
> > > >
> > > > Aaron, you ignorant and sad excuse for a human being, I told you
> before
> > > > when you were on one of your rants that the population of Zimbabwe is
> > > > being decimated by AIDS, as well as other areas in Africa, and the
> > > > transmission is exclusively HETEROSEXUAL.  They have orphanages full
> of
> > > > orphans who have lost their parents to AIDS, and many of them have
> > > > gotten AIDS too, from their mother.
> > > >
> > > > Despite your stupid statements, the truth is still there for anyone to
> > > > see, just go to Zimbabwe in Africa or Thailand in Asia or other areas
> in
> > > > both regions, and you will find AIDS spreading among HETEROSEXUAL
> > > > POPULATIONS.
> > >
> > > Most important fact is that _we_ are all concerned, AIDS is an
> > > intercultural disease. No matter how high the risk really is, sometimes
> > > discussions like this serve only to forget that it's _my_ health that is
> > > in danger.
> > > Talking about minorities is easy if you don't belong to them: whatever
> > > taboo I might get to, it's not my life.
> > > BTW, a good way to get those discussions (face to face, esp. in groups)
> > > back to earth is talking about contraception and sexuality of the people
> > > involved: Now the taboo is ours, the problem is ours and we are talking
> > > about everyday life, not as seen on TV or read in papers written to fit
> > > into everyone's lunch break.
> > >
> > > Think about this:
> > >         When my girl and I decided to leave condoms outta bed, I
> proposed to
> > > get us both tested. She was a bit frightened at first, thought that
> > > there was only danger where there's a test, but it was easy to convince
> > > her: How could she know if I lied to her or not? What if I knew I had
> > > AIDS and didn't tell her? (Yeah, excellent rhetoric device for
> > > positively predisposed relationships: just twist it around the evil way.
> > > Works.)
> > >         She called her gynaecologist and was told to come next day. When
> she
> > > arrived, there already was rumors and rants like "uuh, you're the one
> > > with the <look left, look right> AIDS test <g> ". Imagine the faces of
> > > the other patients waiting.
> > >         The doctor was really cool: He told her to have the test made
> > > anonymously at the "Gesundheitsamt", a public health care office,
> > > because her health insurance record would block her entry into public
> > > service.
> > > Once again: This doctor said, Lady, don't let your future employer (the
> > > Fed. Rep. of Germany) know that you had yourself tested or they won't
> > > employ you. And this guy even knew examples!
> > > And all we wanted to do is live our relationship in a responsible way.
> > >
> > > People, this is so pervert, I couldn't believe it.
> > > And the pervertion is the same as with Mr. "baise-cule" Kulekiss: take a
> > > strong sexual taboo, fear of death and painful disease and start to
> > > gossip. The greater the distance (taboo) the easier assumptions and
> > > guesses become "truth". The whole thing works quite fine, as long as it
> > > is not disturbed by truth, which would mostly be a catastrophe in these
> > > cases.
> >
> > Well, this may come as a surprise to you, but the US Army tests EVERY
> > soldier for AIDS every 6-12 months.
> 
> Why? You keep claiming it's not a problem for men.

For heterosexual men, actually. (Aaron's claim)
I think Aaron claims the majority of US soldiers to be gay.
I think we should let the US Army know so he won't be let in when he
grows up...

> 
> J

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From: Burkhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?= 
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:27:43 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> 
> Burkhard Wölfel wrote:
> >
> > drsquare wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 06:45:36 -0400, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> > >  ("Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> > >
> > > >Ed Cogburn wrote:
> > >
> > > >> > which DEADLY, INCURABLE diseases are spread by heterosexual contact?
> > > >>
> > > >> Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome.
> > > >
> > > >Not for men.
> > >
> > > Yep, you've confirmed it. You really DON'T know what you're talking
> > > about.
> >
> > And we spent so much time on him...
> 
> U.S. AIDS CASES BY EXPOSURE CATEGORY
> [snip]
>  - center for disease control, 1999
14th time w/out reference to the actual publication
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From: Burkhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?= 
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:23:50 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> 
> Ed Cogburn wrote:
> >
> > Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> >
> > > Well, this may come as a surprise to you, but the US Army tests EVERY
> > > soldier for AIDS every 6-12 months.
> >
> > And this is supposed to mean what?  The situation he's talking about has
> > to do with how personal medical info being distributed to other
> > entities.  If the Army is handing over this test info to your future
> > employer, then your response here would make sense.

Right, Ed.

> 
> He implied that I could very well have AIDS and not know it.

I didn't know. oops.

> 
> I said that, given the US Army's policy, that's damn well unlikely
> 
> >
> > --
> > It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.  -- Voltaire
> 
> --
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> DNRC Minister of all I survey
> ICQ # 3056642
> 
> L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
>    can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>    [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> K: Truth in advertising:
>         Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
>         Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
>         Special Interest Sierra Club,
>         Anarchist Members of the ACLU
>         Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
>         The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
>         Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
> 
> J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
>    The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
>    also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
> 
> I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
>    challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
>    between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
>    Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
> 
> H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
>     premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
>     you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
>     you are lazy, stupid people"
> 
> G:  Knackos...you're a retard.
> 
> F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
>    adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
> 
> E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
>    her behavior improves.
> 
> D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
>    ...despite (C) above.
> 
> C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
> 
> B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
>    method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
>    direction that she doesn't like.
> 
> A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: Burkhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?= 
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:26:52 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> 
> drsquare wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:52:15 -0400, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> >  ("Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> >
> > >Ed Cogburn wrote:
> >
> > >> And this is supposed to mean what?  The situation he's talking about has
> > >> to do with how personal medical info being distributed to other
> > >> entities.  If the Army is handing over this test info to your future
> > >> employer, then your response here would make sense.
> > >
> > >He implied that I could very well have AIDS and not know it.
> >
> > You could.
> >
> > >I said that, given the US Army's policy, that's damn well unlikely
> >
> > With what I've heard here, it's highly likely.
> 
> U.S. AIDS CASES BY EXPOSURE CATEGORY
> 
[snip]
>  - center for disease control, 1999
13th time w/out reference to the actual publication


Aaron, do you think it would make sense for you to do a test on HIV?

> 

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From: Burkhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?= 
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:28:02 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> 
> drsquare wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 06:45:36 -0400, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> >  ("Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> >
> > >Ed Cogburn wrote:
> >
> > >> > which DEADLY, INCURABLE diseases are spread by heterosexual contact?
> > >>
> > >> Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome.
> > >
> > >Not for men.
> >
> > Yep, you've confirmed it. You really DON'T know what you're talking
> > about.
> 
> U.S. AIDS CASES BY EXPOSURE CATEGORY
15th time w/out reference to the actual publication
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From: Burkhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?= 
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:28:44 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> 
> jet wrote:
> >
> > Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Ed Cogburn wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > which DEADLY, INCURABLE diseases are spread by heterosexual contact?
> > > >
> > > > Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome.
> > >
> > > Not for men.
> > >
> > You keep telling yourself that, please, keep telling yourself that!
> >
> 
> U.S. AIDS CASES BY EXPOSURE CATEGORY
> 
16th time w/out reference to the actual publication
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From: "Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux penetration MUCH lower than previously claimed
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:34:03 GMT


"Craig Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > Yes, but at the same time, it's not clear what it will be running. The
thing
> > we really need to see is a survey of what operating systems businesses
are
> > running today. The survey would have to include companies of different
size
> > and different markets (etc, etc.) so that variations could be factored
in.
> > As you point out, just looking at what OS machines were shipped with
isn't
> > necessarily valid, especially in the case of server shipments.
>
> Enter Netcraft; but every time someone brings it up, the Windows
> advocates stick their heads in a hole somewhere.

Netcraft doesn't conduct scientific surveys, and their results are only
credible in a narrow sense. They may or may not have any real relationship
to what operating systems businesses run on all their servers - not just
those running their primary web pages.

-- Mike --




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From: Sandman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: More micro$oft "customer service"
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:35:11 +0200

In article <9gaaoe$lg$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> >> > > PDF **is** a proprietary format.  It's owned by Adobe.  It's no 
> >> > > less proprietary than DOC or XLS.
> >> > 
> >> > It si completely open , though.
> >> 
> >> Is it? Is the source available and can anyone modify that source?
> > 
> > PDF is a document format, not an application. The format is open, 
> > meaning  anyone can write PDF plugins or PDF readers. Or at least, 
> > this is probably what the poster meant. I have no real clue about 
> > wheather PDF is open or not. But compare it to Postscript, another 
> > Adobe format, that isn't open, and  Apple choose not to use it since 
> > the license was to expensive.
> 
> That's what I meant. Looks to me like PS is pretty open. I can write 
> programs in PS (see my sig) and I can get a free PS interpreter.

Hmmm, but are you free to develop a PS interpreter and sell it for money? 
Isn't this the exact reason why Apple didn't choose postscript for their 
display model and developed Quartz instead?

-- 
Sandman[.net]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windows makes good coasters
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:48:36 GMT

On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:33:01 +0100, drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:12:09 GMT, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED] ()) wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:33:53 +0100, drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>>>Especially if you're too fucking stupid to figure out how to download the
>>>>driver(s) on a PC with a working network connection.
>>>
>>>I was talking about a situation where the modem drivers are NOT THERE.
>>
>>If you're not using a winmodem (ie: brain dead piece of crap), they use the
>>hayes command set.
>>
>>Otherwise you should get a modem where the designers aren't in bed with
>>microsoft.
>
>Which is yet more money.

Some of us have the means to acquire $30.

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Crossposted-To: comp.arch,misc.invest.stocks
Subject: Re: The beginning of the end for microsoft
From: Ketil Z Malde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:56:21 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter da Silva) writes:

> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Ketil Z Malde  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> I'm not sure about that.  How many Linux or Mac users would switch to
>> Windows because of it?  PC users buy by default MS software anyway, so
>> while I agree there'd be a benefit to society, I don't think it's
>> obvious where the revenue stream for Intel/MS is.

> Every upgrade means another copy of Windows, even if they install over it.

Eh... I'm not sure I follow.  The way it is now, I buy a new PC with
the latest Windows on it, and spend hours moving stuff over.  In an
ideal world, I buy a new PC with the latest Windows on it, and push a
button to automatically transfer all my stuff.

I'm not sure I see why MS cares one way or another.

-kzm
-- 
If I haven't seen further, it is by standing in the footprints of giants

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