On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:29 PM, Tomasz Kusmierz <tom.kusmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Please, I beg you add another column to man and wiki stating clearly
> how many devices every profile can withstand to loose. I frequently
> have to explain how btrfs profiles work and show quotes from this
> mailing list because "dawning-kruger effect victims" keep poping up
> with statements like "in btrfs raid10 with 8 drives you can loose 4
> drives" ... I seriously beg you guys, my beating stick is half broken
> by now.

You need a new stick. It's called the ad hominem attack. When stupid
people say stupid things, the dispute is not about the facts or
opinions in the argument itself, but rather the person involved. There
is the possibility this is more than stupidity, it really borders on
maliciousness. Any ethical code of conduct for a list will accept ad
hominem attacks over the willful dissemination of provably wrong
information. When stupid assholes throw users under the bus with
provably wrong (and bad) advice, it becomes something of an obligation
to resort to name calling.

Of course, I'd also like the wiki to clearly state the only profile
that tolerates more than one device loss is raid6; and be very
explicit with the manifestly wrong terminology being used by Btrfs's
raid10 terminology. That is a fairly egregious violation of common
terminology and the trust we're supposed to be developing, both in the
usage of common terms, but also in Btrfs specifically.

Chris Murphy
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